To wonder why people jump to calling people who murder other prisoners heros?

[Femalemachinest]

Ive just seen something on facebook where 3 men have been charged for a killing another in prison. He killed a young child. People are praising these men, calling them a hero's, saying they should be released, have their sentences reduced.... all while forgetting these people are also serious criminals to be on the same wing. Apparently 2 of them were in for murder of women.
I would also believe they did this because of something that happened in prison (debt/gang related) not because of the reason he was in.

Best to link your sources

I think one less child killer in the world is a good thing regardless of who killed them.

You don't really need sources, you only have to read the threads on here after IW was killed recently. Or read on here the torture fantasies people like to post about what they hope happens to convicted criminals like the two men convicted this week.

To answer the OP: it's because revenge and bloodlust makes people take leave of their senses.

I agree. I wonder what the family of the victims of the killers of Huntley or Watkins think of them being lauded by people saying they’d buy them a pint.
Weird to think they believe these horrible criminals suddenly are acting out of a moral compass.

@pinkyredrosethinking they aren’t heroes for killing the person isn't the same as thinking that their murder is any loss to society.

i guess its like saying all people who went to war to fight are heroes (yes they are but to make my point its devils advote point im making, when you dont always know the true motives of the individuals are etc

Heroes kill bad people

a child killer is clearly a bad person

ergo anyone who kills a child killer is a hero.

(note this does not stop a hero being a bad person)

People are short sighted. And often too eager to be the first to comment online rather than thinking for a second.

Someone on a social media I’m on called for the killer of Ian Huntley to be released and given a medal for community service. Someone else replied that the guy had murdered that person’s niece (or cousin) and her unborn child, along with two other people.

Yes I found it horrendous when the guy who murdered Ian Huntley was hailed as hero when he had raped and strangled a pregnant women. Just awful.

And no matter how obnoxious Ian Huntley was our criminal system does
not have the death sentence so he should not have been murdered

Prisoners have a hierarchy of scum. Because they’ve done scummy things themselves, they like to find people who’ve done scummier things than they have, and dole out punishments to make themselves feel like upstanding citizens. Murderers are better than rapists, who in turn are better than child molesters.

Violent men enjoy having the opportunity to be violent.

They killed another prisoner because:

a) they enjoy violence and causing pain.
b) it makes them feel good about themselves.

Killing another criminal isn’t an altruistic act, it’s wholly motivated by their own selfish desires.

its like in the john wick films when criminals have codes, its like your a criminal etc

Totally agree. It’s a symptom of the inability of people to engage their brain before they speak, knee jerk reactions based on juicy headlines.

It’s a difficult one. Whilst other prisoners are often convicted of murder, I very much doubt the likes of Ian Huntley would be murdered by someone in the prison due to involuntary man slaughter. I think with violent people, often there’s a ‘moral compass’ of sorts that justifies their actions to murder those they feel are a different kind of monster, - whether that’s a child murderer - paedophile or murderer or some innocent party.

of course it’s wrong, but many ‘normal’ people / parents etc would be glad of this … there are monsters that have no place on this realm, I guess they clear up these abhorrent creatures

Yeah, I don't think they should have their sentences reduced or be released. They'd certainly be a danger to society if they just murdered someone in prison, regardless of motive

I don’t think it’s difficult. As a a society we either approve of capital punishment or we don’t.

If we don’t, we shouldn’t approve of it by the back door. If murder isn’t ok, then it isn’t ever ok.

Many people still favour the death penalty. More so for certain kinds of murder, so if a child killer dies, it's a proxy for what they wish should have happened to them.

@Octavia64

Heroes kill bad people

That's not the definition of hero, or at least not the common culturally accepted one.

I don't think anyone who has committed such horrendous acts as murder or rape should be considered a 'hero', even if one individual act is considered to be worthwhile.

The Nazis were undoubtedly responsible for the deaths of some "bad people" as well as the many good - so should the Nazis be called heroes?

Absolutely. I don’t think they’re heroes but dead rapists/abusers etc don’t reoffend. So stop virtue signalling and save your sympathy for the actual victims and their families.

@YouPromisedToStopPosting

Some people absolutely do approve of the death penalty in certain cases, so I can understand why those particular people applaud such killings.

What they should not do, however is laud the prisoner responsible as a hero in their own right, when they've normally committed crimes that are just as bad.

@PolkaDotPorridge

It's not virtue signalling to point out that people who murder other prisoners have caused untold devastation and pain to other victims who did not deserve it.

It is not at all kind or sensitive to the the victims of a rapist and murderer to be calling that rapist/murderer a hero for murdering a fellow prisoner. It totally diminishes/ignores the suffering of their innocent victims.

It’s a pity that this sort of punishment can’t be carried out legally by authorities. None of these are heroes but have saved the country a few pound.

Like I said. I don’t think they’re heroes. Hope that helps.

@PolkaDotPorridge

But this thread is specifically about people who do think they are heroes.

So my point still stands. It's not virtue signalling.

I saw one comment saying they should have their sentences reduced. WTF?

@WhatATimeToBeAlive

So disrespectful to their other victims!

It's as though people totally forget that these prisoners have other innocent victims of their own, or they just don't care about them and their feelings.