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To wonder why people jump to calling people who murder other prisoners heros?

84 replies

Femalemachinest · 19/06/2026 15:18

Ive just seen something on facebook where 3 men have been charged for a killing another in prison. He killed a young child. People are praising these men, calling them a hero's, saying they should be released, have their sentences reduced.... all while forgetting these people are also serious criminals to be on the same wing. Apparently 2 of them were in for murder of women.
I would also believe they did this because of something that happened in prison (debt/gang related) not because of the reason he was in.

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XenoBitch · 19/06/2026 16:40

YANBU
No, they are not heros. They are murderers. Killing other prisoners will increase their sentences and rightly so because they are clearly very dangerous.

KojaksLollipop · 19/06/2026 16:48

If anyone gets their sentence reduced for murdering another prisoner, the prisons would be emptied by 50% within days, and then everyone would get out. Ridiculous!

Simonjt · 19/06/2026 17:05

Prisons should be as safe as possible, where assaults are able to happen the staff are in danger. So not only are some people pro-murder and pro releasing murderers and rapists, they’re also pro putting prison staff in danger.

Oddly the people who see these as heroes don’t work in prisons or offer to house offenders after early release, funny that.

SorcererGaheris · 19/06/2026 17:28

faithfultoGeorgeMichael · 19/06/2026 16:11

Because humans are vengeful animals and they are blowing off some steam in an anon forum.
Thinking you are morally superior for your more liberal views is part of the reason there is so much division and hate in this country at the moment. People are allowed to despise child abusers and murderers and wish them dead. It is a perfectly logical position to take.

@faithfultoGeorgeMichael

Given that in many cases, the prisoners who kill child abusers and murderers are also themselves child abusers and murderers, shouldn't you also want them dead?

This thread isn't criticising people for hating child abusers and murderers and taking pleasure in them being killed. It's pointing out that the prisoners who killed them have almost always committed the same crimes themselves against innocent victims.

How do you think the victims of the prisoner murderers feel if they see/hear others calling them heroes? Their suffering (or those of their loved ones) is being unfairly disregarded.

Secretseverywhere · 19/06/2026 17:29

I don’t think these men are heroes. That said I’m not lamenting the death of that awful man. I used to be quite anti death penalty but I think I’ve been worn down by an endless stream of awfulness.

There’s a bit of me that would quite happily agree to let the men who are convicted of horrendous crimes to be dropped off on some remote island somewhere and just let them kill each other off. We could leave some snozzcumber seeds,

SorcererGaheris · 19/06/2026 17:30

Octavia64 · 19/06/2026 16:13

Killing bad people is neither necessary nor sufficient for heroic status.

@Octavia64

But earlier on, you said that "heroes kill bad people."

So isn't that contradictory?

Whyohwhy1973 · 19/06/2026 17:39

Thekichenisclosed · 19/06/2026 16:08

Tbh if a particular prison wing contained all murderers, rapists and nonces, I’d happily support a Battle Royale style scenario where they can all kill each other.

Will you offer to go in afterwards and drag all the dead bodies out and clean it up, ready for the next round? And will you volunteer to decide who goes in to this battle venue? Or is just every single person who commits murde etc? And do you really want to live in a medieval society that supports this? Do you want it live streamed? Or a viewing gallery for the relatives? I get the emotion that sits behind your view but I bet you wouldn't actually want this to happen?

BlusteryLake · 19/06/2026 17:41

When an awful person is murdered either in prison or out in society, I don't think it's bad to be quietly relieved about it. But celebrating their murderer is grotesque, when usually that murderer is just as awful as their victim.

Hopefully when people call for these prison murderers to have their sentences reduced they're really using that as a way of expressing their approval of the death, rather than a serious suggestion. It would be ridiculous to put out the message in Category A prisons that if you kill one of your fellow inmates it can be a way of reducing your time.

RaininSummer · 19/06/2026 17:45

I don't care if a child killer gets terminated in prison as I would like capital punishment for them but I definitely don't think the killers are heros or should be released etc. They are also extremely violent people who take the law into their own hands.

PolkaDotPorridge · 19/06/2026 20:08

It’s a win win, awful disgusting child killer is murdered and awful disgusting murderers that were already in jail for being murderers get more jail time and will never ever get out.

BEAchDays2 · 19/06/2026 20:44

Ultimately I think it’s because people are a bit thick.

XenoBitch · 19/06/2026 20:44

PolkaDotPorridge · 19/06/2026 20:08

It’s a win win, awful disgusting child killer is murdered and awful disgusting murderers that were already in jail for being murderers get more jail time and will never ever get out.

I don't see it as a win win at all. People should not be getting attacked/killed in prisons. If they can do that to fellow inmates, they can do it to staff.

FunMustard · 19/06/2026 20:57

I'm not going to celebrate another murder, but equally I'm not going to feel bad that a child murderer is dead.

I do think it's ghoulish to crow about it.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 19/06/2026 21:00

All three are murderers. One murdered an old lady. Definitely shouldn't have sentences reduced.

LadyVioletBridgerton · 19/06/2026 21:18

Agree 100% OP. The guy that killed Ian Huntley for example had killed several people and one of them was pregnant. That was the only reason he had access to Huntley. For people to be cheering and saying he’s so wonderful is an insult to his victims.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 19/06/2026 21:31

I am never sad when I hear about child murderers/rapists being killed in prison. One less of the sick bastards in the world.

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · 19/06/2026 21:38

It's never going to be a good thing when people like to pick and choose when to be pro violence.

These "heroes" are the ones killing the male members of your family and raping your female friends. If youre OK with that then something is very wrong

Whyohwhy1973 · 19/06/2026 21:58

XenoBitch · 19/06/2026 20:44

I don't see it as a win win at all. People should not be getting attacked/killed in prisons. If they can do that to fellow inmates, they can do it to staff.

Which one of them did. He stabbed a detective who went there to interview him.

SENsupportplease · 19/06/2026 22:02

Thekichenisclosed · 19/06/2026 16:08

Tbh if a particular prison wing contained all murderers, rapists and nonces, I’d happily support a Battle Royale style scenario where they can all kill each other.

This would be a good tv show 😂😬

XenoBitch · 19/06/2026 22:04

SENsupportplease · 19/06/2026 22:02

This would be a good tv show 😂😬

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Who would want to watch that? Possibly the sort of people who would end up playing the game at some point anyway.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 19/06/2026 22:04

Whyohwhy1973 · 19/06/2026 17:39

Will you offer to go in afterwards and drag all the dead bodies out and clean it up, ready for the next round? And will you volunteer to decide who goes in to this battle venue? Or is just every single person who commits murde etc? And do you really want to live in a medieval society that supports this? Do you want it live streamed? Or a viewing gallery for the relatives? I get the emotion that sits behind your view but I bet you wouldn't actually want this to happen?

I’d do it as long as I was paid 👍

dudsville · 19/06/2026 22:06

There's a grey area that isn't heroic but has a purpose. The prisoners have made choices that led to imprisonment. They know that committing muder whilst in prison is going to make their prison stay longer. They aren't heros, but they're in a grey area where they can do things others can't because the cost to them is less. It's not vigilante in the case of someone imprisoned for their crimes killed by other criminals. But for me the reason I'm not comfortable with it is because we know people get wrongly convicted on occasion. I have no interest at all in trying to rehabilitate people who've hurt chosen, I'm not that good of a soul, but I do want this to be left to the professionals and experts to decide.

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 19/06/2026 22:09

They’re not heroes, but however the vile monsters meet their end, it’s a bonus for humanity. Nothing to mourn there.

SisterTeatime · 19/06/2026 22:10

I agree that people who think this are not very intelligent.

It does worry me that prisons seem to be getting more and more violent. While few of us would shed tears over any of those recently murdered in prison, with the prison population growing and more whole life and very long minimum terms being handed down - and I don’t disagree with that at all - there are more and more inmates with nothing to lose, in increasingly stressful and dangerous environments.

I don’t believe in the death penalty but I admit to thinking maybe those with whole life terms could be put in induced comas … I don’t really think that, but I don’t know what th solution is longer term except massive investment in the judicial and prison systems, which won’t happen, or a massive reduction in male violence and criminality, which won’t happen either.