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to think my husband's shouting has gone too far?

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justsayyes1 · 18/06/2026 01:37

I'm sitting here in shock and feeling really upset tonight and would appreciate some outside perspective.
Things have been difficult between my husband and me for a long time. We have a child with complex needs and I have ended up carrying the vast majority of the responsibility for managing appointments, school issues, day-to-day care and the emotional fallout, alongside working. For years we didn’t see eye to eye with ASN and the associated adjustments we’ve made (essentially I’ve driven them and he has i think felt pushed aside, though I’d say he’s just not engaged in it all). He also has a history of losing his temper and really shouting about 2-3 times a year with seemingly no trigger, although recently that seemed to have improved. In fact, earlier today I found myself thinking that maybe, somehow, we might actually be okay in the end.
Then tonight happened.
Our son's duvet cover was wet, so I put it in the wash. As my husband sleeps in the spare room (I co-sleep with our daughter), I took his duvet and put it on our son's bed, leaving my husband with a sleeping bag and a smaller duvet for one night until the other one dries. It was a fast practical decision made after a busy day.
Later, while I was trying to settle our daughter to sleep (which was already difficult), my husband stormed into the room shouting about how dare I take his duvet. I explained why I'd done it, but he just carried on shouting.
At that point our son came in. He was home on time and asked if his friend could come in for a while. My husband immediately started shouting at him, swearing and telling him to get rid of his friend. My son questioned why, saying he wasn't due in bed yet and just wanted to hang out. My husband got right up in his face to the point where I genuinely worried it was going to become physical.
My son then said, "What about Mum? Doesn't she get a say?" and my husband shouted, "No, she doesn't."
His friend left, clearly uncomfortable. My son is now crying in his room and won't speak to me. My daughter is frightened and crying too.
The truth is that I'm exhausted. Between caring for our daughter, working, and trying to keep everything afloat, I feel like I'm on my last legs most of the time. People often say "just leave", but the practical and emotional reality of separation feels almost impossible when I'm already barely coping.
I also think I've made a lot of excuses for him over the years. Because so much of my focus has been on the children and their needs, our relationship has often come a distant second. I've told myself he's stressed, that things could be worse, that we're both under pressure. Lately I genuinely felt we had got to a better place, which is why tonight has come as such a shock.
Am I overreacting, or is this as bad as it feels tonight? I feel heartbroken for both children and honestly don't know what to think anymor

OP posts:
sprigatito · 18/06/2026 10:07

justsayyes1 · 18/06/2026 10:02

yes, we have ongoing issues in our marriage, but I think a lot of that stems from the pressure of raising a child with complex additional needs. We have dealt with that pressure very differently. I've ended up taking the lead on the research, appointments, medical admin and day-to-day care, while my husband has coped in his own way. That's not intended as criticism, just the reality of our situation.
What has really tipped me over the edge this time is not the duvet itself. It has been an incredibly hard couple of weeks with very little sleep, and my husband chose to respond to a minor issue by shouting. He came into the room while I was trying to settle our daughter, which immediately upset and dysregulated her, turning bedtime into a much bigger ordeal.
What upset me even more was what happened with our son. He came home on time, brought a friend round as he often does with our permission, and was immediately met with shouting. He hadn't done anything wrong. For the first time, he stood up for himself and questioned why I didn't get a say. The argument escalated to the point that I came downstairs because I was genuinely concerned it might get worse.
I understand that my husband is frustrated by aspects of our life and marriage. The reality is that our circumstances are difficult, and many things aren't currently changeable. I feel stressed and overwhelmed much of the time too. The difference is that I don't take that out on the children.
I think that's what has become the line in the sand for me. Occasional disagreements are normal. Shouting at your partner in front of the children and then shouting at a child who has done nothing wrong is not something I want my children growing up thinking is normal. That's what has made me seriously question whether continuing to live together is the healthiest option for any of us.

No shit you’ve “dealt with the pressure very differently”. You’ve dealt with it by putting your kids first and doing everything that has to be done, while he’s “dealt with it” by retreating into self-pity and leaving all the shitwork for you. I think you’d actually be less stressed and miserable as a single parent. Your son would be happier too.

Deliaskis · 18/06/2026 10:07

I am so sorry OP that you have felt the need to come on here and explain yourself in your last two posts. The people defending your DH on this thread are beyond belief. It is sickening.

You are enough, you do enough, and you give enough. And your life is hard enough without the other adult in your life failing to behave like an adult at all. He's a disgrace and very sorry excuse for a man, husband or father.

Detemum · 18/06/2026 10:08

justsayyes1 · 18/06/2026 01:37

I'm sitting here in shock and feeling really upset tonight and would appreciate some outside perspective.
Things have been difficult between my husband and me for a long time. We have a child with complex needs and I have ended up carrying the vast majority of the responsibility for managing appointments, school issues, day-to-day care and the emotional fallout, alongside working. For years we didn’t see eye to eye with ASN and the associated adjustments we’ve made (essentially I’ve driven them and he has i think felt pushed aside, though I’d say he’s just not engaged in it all). He also has a history of losing his temper and really shouting about 2-3 times a year with seemingly no trigger, although recently that seemed to have improved. In fact, earlier today I found myself thinking that maybe, somehow, we might actually be okay in the end.
Then tonight happened.
Our son's duvet cover was wet, so I put it in the wash. As my husband sleeps in the spare room (I co-sleep with our daughter), I took his duvet and put it on our son's bed, leaving my husband with a sleeping bag and a smaller duvet for one night until the other one dries. It was a fast practical decision made after a busy day.
Later, while I was trying to settle our daughter to sleep (which was already difficult), my husband stormed into the room shouting about how dare I take his duvet. I explained why I'd done it, but he just carried on shouting.
At that point our son came in. He was home on time and asked if his friend could come in for a while. My husband immediately started shouting at him, swearing and telling him to get rid of his friend. My son questioned why, saying he wasn't due in bed yet and just wanted to hang out. My husband got right up in his face to the point where I genuinely worried it was going to become physical.
My son then said, "What about Mum? Doesn't she get a say?" and my husband shouted, "No, she doesn't."
His friend left, clearly uncomfortable. My son is now crying in his room and won't speak to me. My daughter is frightened and crying too.
The truth is that I'm exhausted. Between caring for our daughter, working, and trying to keep everything afloat, I feel like I'm on my last legs most of the time. People often say "just leave", but the practical and emotional reality of separation feels almost impossible when I'm already barely coping.
I also think I've made a lot of excuses for him over the years. Because so much of my focus has been on the children and their needs, our relationship has often come a distant second. I've told myself he's stressed, that things could be worse, that we're both under pressure. Lately I genuinely felt we had got to a better place, which is why tonight has come as such a shock.
Am I overreacting, or is this as bad as it feels tonight? I feel heartbroken for both children and honestly don't know what to think anymor

It's not about the sleeping bag though is it.

It's a build up of things he has reacted to and now he has been left with a sleeping bag to sleep under.

Maybe you all need to talk more before the relationship completely ends.

Neverwatchedgameofthrones · 18/06/2026 10:09

You have got a lot going on.

You are both overwhelmed.

Look up the anger iceberg. Anger is a secondary emotion.

Sometimes shouting is the only way someone can be heard.

I don't think it is right but there is more going on here than just he loses his rag every now and then.

I'd be fuming if you took my duvet without explaining because you were in a rush. I probably wouldn't shout infront of someone elses kid but yeah, you sound fairly hard work. If the kids are hard work too something is going to give and it does a few times a year.

You both need to work on why.

This needs a professional not Mumsnet.

Diamondwindow · 18/06/2026 10:09

For people who are saying that you should have given your son the sleeping bag- no way! Your husband is the adult amd the parent and he can deal with a sleeping back for one night!! I really feel for you and this behaviour is not ok. What you’ve experienced is verbal abuse and so have your children. Your husband needs to take responsibility for that. No matter what goes on in the house , that’s not acceptable for someone to behave that way to their wife or children. You’re not overthinking this, it’s not ok. None of you deserve that. It sounds like you need a lot of support right now, with childcare and the relationship. Potentially support you to leave the relationship in the long term. You will need finanaces and people who care about you around you. Consider calling the national donestic abuse phone line and having a chat. They won’t have all the answers but will have heard many stories like this before and can potentially advise. Sending you love and strength

Comeinsideforacupoftea · 18/06/2026 10:09

justsayyes1 · 18/06/2026 09:42

Thank you for all the feedback. Some of the comments focused on whether my husband's needs are being met, so I wanted to add some context rather than drip-feed information.
Our daughter's needs are complex, and she requires an adult to sleep in the room with her. That responsibility falls to me because my husband does not wake if she needs help during the night. Because of that, sharing a bedroom together is simply not realistic at present.
I can absolutely understand why my husband may have felt frustrated or annoyed about the bedding situation. My concern is not that he was annoyed; it's how he responded. He came into the room while I was trying to settle our daughter, knowing bedtime can be very difficult for her, and raised his voice. That immediately dysregulated her and turned what should have been a straightforward bedtime into a two-and-a-half-hour ordeal.
He then started shouting at our son the moment he walked through the door. Our son was home on time for curfew and had brought a friend home, which is something both of us normally allow. From our son's perspective, the sudden rule change made no sense. He challenged it and asked why I didn't get a say in the decision. The argument escalated, both of them raised their voices, and our daughter became even more distressed hearing it downstairs.
What troubles me is not a single disagreement or someone losing their temper occasionally. It's the pattern. We already live with a great deal of uncertainty because of our daughter's health and care needs. I don't want to also live with the uncertainty of wondering whether an ordinary family situation is going to trigger another outburst.
I don't think shouting at your partner in front of the children, or shouting at a child who has done nothing wrong, is something children should grow up seeing as normal. My son, who is nearly 13 and rarely cries, ended up in tears afterwards.
Several people asked what my husband contributes. The answer is that when things are good, he contributes a lot. He is fun, engaging, and provides significant financial support. That's what makes this so difficult. But two or three times a year there are major outbursts that leave everyone upset, and he tends to minimise their impact. The pattern is usually silence for a few days, followed by an apology and a promise it won't happen again. Unfortunately, it does.

OP from what you've said I want you to know that I get it! It was the injustice to your lad that stood out to me as well and now that I know he's only 12 that feels even worse. He no doubt gets a little overlooked due to his sister's needs and has had to mature faster than some of his peers (not a criticism but statistical reality) For me it would be extremely important that (providing he's respectful) he gets to kick back with his friends and gets to feel comfortable having them over. It was bang out of order of DH to have a go at him like this, humiliate him and make his friend feel uncomfortable. That alone would have me giving DH his marching orders tbh especially if it's a common occurance.

If it's down to you to stay with dd at night then that is what it is. It can't always be helped. However if DH wants to be part of the family unit he needs to accept this, accept the toll that this takes on you and find other ways to help. He could start by finding his own flippin quilt if it's that important to him

SockPlant · 18/06/2026 10:10

Mumtobabyhavoc · 18/06/2026 06:17

Lack of communication by OP caused husband to yell in a manner that OP thought he might use physical violence. OP should have used her words so as not to upset husband.

Their child should not have asked his dad a question which then caused him to become more upset. He should know better. He needs to be careful and manage dad's emotions.

OP is too focused on parenting and not focused enough on her husband's needs.

Is that about right?

There is an element of that.

DH needs to control his rage.
But OO and he (and DCs where approptiate) need to communicate more.

Family therapy, together and alo e might help.

zingally · 18/06/2026 10:11

OtterLovesItsRock · 18/06/2026 09:25

Please do not tell us you work for DWP

I don't. Not sure why that's relevant.

Or, more accurately, can't be bothered to try and work out why that might be relevant.

justsayyes1 · 18/06/2026 10:13

I have talked to him, many times. Every time something like this happens he apologises in the end and says he’ll manage his temper better the next time. Months go by and I think that’s true and then something invisible happens (no one could get that angry over being given alternate bedding for 1 night and their son bringing home
a friend as normal for 30 mins) and he loses his temper and shouts, and when I say shout I really mean shout. It’s scary. And I think I can’t do any more “talking” with him about it because it’s pointless. there are some things I can’t change, like our lack of time 121 due to DD needs, but I do try and support him to have a nice life, he goes on 2 holidays each year with friends as our DD can’t travel, he has a weekly hobby, he isn’t “banished” to the spare room with no bedding or care. Sadly I think we have just failed the test of parenting a child with additional needs, and its
going to be so so hard financially and emotionally I think I’m going ask him for a divorce, I can’t carry on having this happen every 6 months.

OP posts:
AnonyMumAuDHD · 18/06/2026 10:14

Whether you made the right call about the duvet v sleeping bag is moot.

This was not about the duvet. It was about a lot more - perhaps your DH feels overlooked/deprioritised, perhaps he has other stuff going on, perhaps he is an aggressive asshole. We can’t really know - but the duvet was not the issue, just the final straw. And, yes, his behaviour is unacceptable, no matter how unhappy it seems he may be or whatever issues are driving it.

Park the other stuff and sit down and talk. You may both need counselling. It is really common when you have a child with SEN - as the mother - to be so hyperfocused on your child and their needs that you neglect your partner and their needs. And often your own, too. Been there. You can only overcome this by talking and listening. And DH needs to apologise for his behaviour and recognise that it was not appropriate.

lazyarse123 · 18/06/2026 10:20

The bedding thing is ridiculous behaviour from the husbands point of view. I imagine he isn't in any way helpful when op is trying to put a disabled child to bed and makng sure the other child has a dry bed. He could have swapped the bedding over instead of shouting.
I don't blame the son for answering back when someone is shouting in his face either and probably scaring his friend too.
He needs either anger management help or to leave before everyone has to walk on eggshells fearing his reaction.

lazyarse123 · 18/06/2026 10:24

I'm so sorry I just read your update about how much time and holidays he gets to himself and you don't get any. He really is a selfish twat isn't he? I don't imagine he does any of the care for your DD so you wouldn't be any worse off if you divorced. At least it will be peaceful for you and your children.

justsayyes1 · 18/06/2026 10:27

I think what scares me is how much harder it will become financially, but I can’t carry on like this. I’ve done as much as I can to help DH have a nice lift despite me now being a full time carer to DD but it’s clearly not enough and never will be. I think even if it’s hard money wise and I have 0 energy to go through an emotionally
and financially heavy long divorce, this can’t continue.

OP posts:
blackpooolrock · 18/06/2026 10:29

olympicsrock · 18/06/2026 09:56

The biggest problem here is a man with anger issues but I can see why the husband was so pissed off - there was no reason to give the son his father’s duvet rather than the sleeping bag and/or small duvet. Sometimes adult should be prioritised over children.
At this point DS was cheeky - suggested that his mum overrule his dad really pushing a button .

DH clearly feels overlooked and undermined and as a result cannot control his temper. You need couples/ family therapy with your son and DH needs anger management and to apologise to DH and explain how he feels .

DS wasn't cheeky. He was shouted at for no reason.

husband should have acted like an adult and explained why he didn't want the sleeping bag.

STOP enabling and excusing abusers

justsayyes1 · 18/06/2026 10:32

I also frankly cannot take seriously the man tantrum over…sleeping with his camping gear he loves for…1 night due to our DD meltdown. Even if I had given it more thought at the time I think I would have made the same decision, as DS has enough k to deal with having a sibling with complex needs without having to use his dad’s campfire smelling sleeping bag because his sister soaked his bed in a meltdown.

OP posts:
blackpooolrock · 18/06/2026 10:34

Where was your DH when DD was having a meltdown?

Why wasn't he helping?

Why didn't he deal with the wet bedding leaving you to deal with your DD?

Why didn't he deal with his bedding given you were dealing with your DD?

manchild no where to be seen when dealing with difficult kids then shouts about it when he thinks he's got the short straw.

Throw him the fuck out.

BeCosyMauveCrab · 18/06/2026 10:36

This is not ok, yes it is as bad as you think. You need to set a boundary with him, he is not to raise his voice like that to you or your children. If he does, leave. He has an anger problem. What example is he setting your children? No matter how bad he feels there is no excuse. Did he apologise? Has he repaired with the children?

OtterLovesItsRock · 18/06/2026 10:40

justsayyes1 · 18/06/2026 10:13

I have talked to him, many times. Every time something like this happens he apologises in the end and says he’ll manage his temper better the next time. Months go by and I think that’s true and then something invisible happens (no one could get that angry over being given alternate bedding for 1 night and their son bringing home
a friend as normal for 30 mins) and he loses his temper and shouts, and when I say shout I really mean shout. It’s scary. And I think I can’t do any more “talking” with him about it because it’s pointless. there are some things I can’t change, like our lack of time 121 due to DD needs, but I do try and support him to have a nice life, he goes on 2 holidays each year with friends as our DD can’t travel, he has a weekly hobby, he isn’t “banished” to the spare room with no bedding or care. Sadly I think we have just failed the test of parenting a child with additional needs, and its
going to be so so hard financially and emotionally I think I’m going ask him for a divorce, I can’t carry on having this happen every 6 months.

Dear OP, please speak to Women's Aid before asking him for a divorce. There are some links here:
https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/getting-help-for-domestic-violence/
You need to be safe and know your rights before initiating the conversation.

nhs.uk

Getting help for domestic violence and abuse

Find out about the signs of domestic violence and abuse, and where to get help. Domestic violence and abuse can happen against women and against men, and anyone can be an abuser.

https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/getting-help-for-domestic-violence

MixedFeelingsNoFeelings · 18/06/2026 10:48

justsayyes1 · 18/06/2026 10:13

I have talked to him, many times. Every time something like this happens he apologises in the end and says he’ll manage his temper better the next time. Months go by and I think that’s true and then something invisible happens (no one could get that angry over being given alternate bedding for 1 night and their son bringing home
a friend as normal for 30 mins) and he loses his temper and shouts, and when I say shout I really mean shout. It’s scary. And I think I can’t do any more “talking” with him about it because it’s pointless. there are some things I can’t change, like our lack of time 121 due to DD needs, but I do try and support him to have a nice life, he goes on 2 holidays each year with friends as our DD can’t travel, he has a weekly hobby, he isn’t “banished” to the spare room with no bedding or care. Sadly I think we have just failed the test of parenting a child with additional needs, and its
going to be so so hard financially and emotionally I think I’m going ask him for a divorce, I can’t carry on having this happen every 6 months.

Oh sweetheart it sounds like you've both been pushed to breaking point. If you can summon the energy for one last try - all cards on the table - could you tell him exactly what you've said above? That you're both trying as hard as you can but you feel like you've both failed at parenting your child?

(Not that I believe that is the case, quite the opposite. But sadly, in always and understandably putting DD first, your relationship has been sacrificed. And DS is feeling the effects of this too, however hard you've tried to ensure his life is mostly unaffected.)

DH sounds like a decent man trying to hold it together, but his breaking point when it comes is terrifying. You are in the trenches all day, every day. It must feel like every so often, you make one tiny wrong move and a bomb goes off that threatens to blow the family apart. It's no way for either of you to live.

I think you both have to decide whether there's enough left in your relationship to continue together - with MUCH more support - or whether it would ultimately be easier on everyone if you split, even with the emotional and financial cost of that. I assume DH would do the right thing by you and DC financially.

Diamondwindow · 18/06/2026 10:51

OtterLovesItsRock · 18/06/2026 10:40

Dear OP, please speak to Women's Aid before asking him for a divorce. There are some links here:
https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/getting-help-for-domestic-violence/
You need to be safe and know your rights before initiating the conversation.

this is true. Be super careful and get legal advice and Womens Aid advice before asking him for a divorce. And cover your tracks. You need to be really careful as what you have described sounds like a volatile situation and its unbelievable how many woman end up in dire situations with men who were good to them "most of the time" or there were "only a few instances". Take care. you sound like a smart resiliant woman. Gather support around you before making any moves.

Monvelo · 18/06/2026 11:01

I'm very surprised by some of the responses! If your husband was unhappy about the duvet/sleeping bag he just needs to swap it over, not completely lose his temper. And his shouting at son because he was already in a red mist is completely unreasonable and unacceptable. Would he speak to a neighbour or colleague this way?! Then why does he do it to loved ones?! Clearly there are going to be lots of underlying issues and complexities but this doesn't excuse his behaviour. A grown adult and father reducing both children to tears and leading to his wife reaching out on the internet. He needs to realise the damage he's done and apologise. He needs to learn some anger management and communication skills and you both need a frank discussion about whether you can resolve the underlying issues or not.

Edit: I suspect this thread has moved on, a case of rtft - I was just too cross!!!

DoesthislookgoodOnMe · 18/06/2026 11:04

Also the sleeping bag was there because the husband had been on a camping trip recently. So it seems like he got a break / escaped from the pressures of home life, but what about @justsayyes1 ? - doesn’t sound like she could get away for a night if she wanted to or have any break or even a few hours uninterrupted sleep.

The “silence for days “ you mention op, does sound like he’s abusive.

DoesthislookgoodOnMe · 18/06/2026 11:07

Gosh I read the updates and he goes on 2 holidays without you too, there is no excuse for his behaviour.

RoseField1 · 18/06/2026 11:19

Oh look, what a surprise, OP's updates paint a picture of a selfish, lazy, emotionally abusive man child who regularly mistreats his wife and children because he can't regulate his emotions. Anyone with any sense could have read that from the OP alone, but instead all the handmaidens and abuse apologists have berated her and made her question her own experiences. It's gaslighting by Mumsnet. Absolutely vile.

Supersimkin7 · 18/06/2026 11:19

The problem is the amount and relentlessness of DDs needs, OP.

Not you or DH or DD. Awful as it sounds, she’s not the most important person in the room.

If you want to stay with DH, get marriage counselling and work as hard as you can on getting a carers’ break for you and your family.

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