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If you support Reform, Restore, Greens and similar far right/left parties

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Yellownotblue · 15/06/2026 22:45

How do you feel about the fact that your support is being whipped up by Russia, in concerted attacks, for the specific purpose of sowing division and political instability in Britain? Is this giving you any pause for thought? Do you think you will go back to supporting traditional parties?

Do you think the party you support has a strong platform to defend the country against clear and present danger from very powerful nations which are taking active measures to harm us? Or put another way, are you prepared to entertain the very real possibility that the party you support is propped up by foreign influence and money that are actually using you as pawns in a political game that will destroy all of us, including yourself?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8r2l352z2do

A composite image with a picture of Sir Keir Starmer on the left and on the right, a still from a video showing a car on fire, which was one of the arson attacks on property linked to him. Behind the image of Sir Keir is a Russian flag.

Russia was behind arson attacks targeting PM, BBC reveals

Evidence shows Russians directing the plot and stoking tensions with fake far-right and Muslim groups.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8r2l352z2do

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TooBigForMyBoots · 16/06/2026 11:11

DuncinToffee · 16/06/2026 10:25

I know.

Sovereignity isn't that important after all.

Tommy Robinson and Musk Sr sharing a drink in Russia, nothing to see here

Not just Musk Sr. Hes also been hanging out with far right, antisemetic groups creating division in democracies including the UK.

https://bylinetimes.com/2026/06/10/revealed-the-russian-neo-nazi-network-pushing-white-lives-matter-division-in-britain-promoted-by-tommy-robinson/

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 16/06/2026 11:11

DuncinToffee · 16/06/2026 11:09

You don't want any

Including women and children?

Sports people?

They're all scum apparently. Hmm

DuncinToffee · 16/06/2026 11:11

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 16/06/2026 11:09

I think the real question is whether there is actually anything that anyone can realistically do about it? Or will we just be trying to close the stable door after the horse has bolted?

It all feels a bit hopeless at this point.

There don't seem to be any tools to stop it, ofcom is useless, corrections by news papers don't cut it either.

baroqueandblue · 16/06/2026 11:13

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 15/06/2026 23:55

Honestly, I think we're witnessing the death of democracy. There is foreign interference on a scale that we've never seen before, and yet people simply won't acknowledge the extent to which they are being manipulated. The facts don't seem to matter any more, either, as some of the posts on this thread demonstrate - anything that doesn't support someone's particular world view is merely dismissed as fake news.

I really don't see how we can come back from this as a society.

There is foreign interference on a scale that we've never seen before

Oh absolutely. And most of it comes from Silicon Valley, but let's not spoil the lie most of you seem to prefer.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 16/06/2026 11:14

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TemperanceWest · 16/06/2026 11:15

tobee · 16/06/2026 11:07

And yet here you are on a public forum objecting @IMustDoMoreExercise

Edited

That post was disgusting hate speech. It is sad and frightening that people like that poster are so emboldened.

TemperanceWest · 16/06/2026 11:20

I can't remember where I read it now, but it has been recognised that there is a clear pattern online of using the narrative of HMOs=evil immigrants as a fresh way to stir up hate. Hotels are yesterday's news.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 16/06/2026 11:21

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I actually live very close to some HMOs. Not next door, but just a couple of mins walk. It doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Contrary to what you seem to think, the vast majority of "migrants" are just ordinary decent people getting on with their lives. I'm not sure why you think it would be so awful to live alongside them.

Then again, I have a "migrant" living in my own home. Maybe in your eyes that makes me "scum" too.

TallSturdyGirls · 16/06/2026 11:22

LuckyHazelFox · 16/06/2026 07:41

You can differ all you want. That's what forums are for. I wouldn't care if I didn't see another Labour government again during the rest of my lifetime. I'm pretty certain it's not going to happen after this shambles of a term. Populist parties have emerged because of fuck ups from both main parties.

I have to agree. I am never going to defend this current government. However that doesn't rule out a well run left leaning/centrist im the future.

DuncinToffee · 16/06/2026 11:24

TooBigForMyBoots · 16/06/2026 11:11

Not just Musk Sr. Hes also been hanging out with far right, antisemetic groups creating division in democracies including the UK.

https://bylinetimes.com/2026/06/10/revealed-the-russian-neo-nazi-network-pushing-white-lives-matter-division-in-britain-promoted-by-tommy-robinson/

Edited

And here

https://bylinetimes.com/2026/02/02/tommy-robinson-and-the-london-news-website-linked-to-a-putin-backed-propaganda-network/

In February 2020, far-right activist Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (‘Tommy Robinson’) travelled to Moscow and St Petersburg, giving interviews to Kremlin-backed broadcaster RT and meeting figures linked to Russian nationalist movements.

(Farage also repeatedly appeared on that Russian channel)

LuckyHazelFox · 16/06/2026 11:27

TallSturdyGirls · 16/06/2026 11:22

I have to agree. I am never going to defend this current government. However that doesn't rule out a well run left leaning/centrist im the future.

You could be right but I'm afraid Burnham's not the answer, imo.

TallSturdyGirls · 16/06/2026 11:28

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 16/06/2026 10:09

Quite.

The behaviour of this Labour government is getting pretty extreme when you look at it.

Its not really extreme, rather just a bit bleugh. They are doing some decent stuff but its not part of a clear and cohesive plan.
Back to the actual purpose of thia thread. The Russia interference has been working very hard to push an anti Labour theme and drive people to dangerous extremes. Creating fear and division. Im amazed I survive walking to the shops in my very diverse area.

DuncinToffee · 16/06/2026 11:32

TallSturdyGirls · 16/06/2026 11:22

I have to agree. I am never going to defend this current government. However that doesn't rule out a well run left leaning/centrist im the future.

You don't have to defend the current govenment to be worried about Russian/foreign interference.

The previous government issued the Russia Report, lesson were not exactly learned.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 16/06/2026 11:41

DuncinToffee · 16/06/2026 11:32

You don't have to defend the current govenment to be worried about Russian/foreign interference.

The previous government issued the Russia Report, lesson were not exactly learned.

I think this is an important point that is being missed by many.

The purpose of Russian interference is not to destabilise the current Labour government, though that's obviously part of it. The purpose is to destabilise the whole UK state. And you don't need to like the Labour government to have concerns about this.

To be fair, I think @TallSturdyGirls has made it quite clear that she understands this distinction but many others don't seem to get it. Which is a worry.

LuckyHazelFox · 16/06/2026 11:47

TallSturdyGirls · 16/06/2026 11:28

Its not really extreme, rather just a bit bleugh. They are doing some decent stuff but its not part of a clear and cohesive plan.
Back to the actual purpose of thia thread. The Russia interference has been working very hard to push an anti Labour theme and drive people to dangerous extremes. Creating fear and division. Im amazed I survive walking to the shops in my very diverse area.

Fear and division isn't a one sided coin. It arises from political bias across the board. Sorry you feel threatened. Jews feel threatened, white people feel threatened as well. Nobody has the monopoly on seeing a threat. We all see threats from different corners.

DuncinToffee · 16/06/2026 11:50

LuckyHazelFox · 16/06/2026 11:47

Fear and division isn't a one sided coin. It arises from political bias across the board. Sorry you feel threatened. Jews feel threatened, white people feel threatened as well. Nobody has the monopoly on seeing a threat. We all see threats from different corners.

The Russia threat affects everyone

TooBigForMyBoots · 16/06/2026 11:50

LuckyHazelFox · 16/06/2026 11:47

Fear and division isn't a one sided coin. It arises from political bias across the board. Sorry you feel threatened. Jews feel threatened, white people feel threatened as well. Nobody has the monopoly on seeing a threat. We all see threats from different corners.

That's the point of these Russian campaigns, to make people feel threatened, to spread fear and division.

TemperanceWest · 16/06/2026 11:55

DuncinToffee · 16/06/2026 11:50

The Russia threat affects everyone

And enriches a few.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 16/06/2026 11:59

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 16/06/2026 10:21

No, the report that I read regarding Serco's response was published yesterday.

Perhaps you will take this as a lesson next time not to blindly trust what you read on Facebook. And certainly not to spread information from an unreliable source without doing some basic fact checking first?

It’s not ‘spreading information from an unreliable source’ although I’m sure you’d love to smear the Telegraph as an unreliable source.

It was reported in the Telegraph and by Zia Yusuf that Serco was not intending to abide by instructions from a Reform government.

Just because Serco is now backtracking on what appears to be an activist that has got way above themselves doesn’t mean this is all made up. I’ll take no lessons from you.

TooBigForMyBoots · 16/06/2026 12:10

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 16/06/2026 11:59

It’s not ‘spreading information from an unreliable source’ although I’m sure you’d love to smear the Telegraph as an unreliable source.

It was reported in the Telegraph and by Zia Yusuf that Serco was not intending to abide by instructions from a Reform government.

Just because Serco is now backtracking on what appears to be an activist that has got way above themselves doesn’t mean this is all made up. I’ll take no lessons from you.

Back tracking on what?

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 16/06/2026 12:15

randomchap · 16/06/2026 10:38

Feel free to back up your claims with evidence. Everything I posted can be linked back to a parliamentary bill.

The assisted dying bill was a private members bill, not a government one. What precisely did they do to ram it through? You do know the difference between a private members bill and a government one don't you?

Yes, thanks for the unnecessary condescension. One of the 1000+ objections to it was that it was not the right subject for a PMB.

I’m not going to list a whole load of links and documents because a) most people who follow current affairs are very aware of these things and b) if you want to prove anything I’ve said as being incorrect, feel free.

I don’t care if you believe me or not as it doesn’t change the facts that everyone else can see. People who are interested in what I say can do their own research and make up their own minds. In fact I’d rather they did that.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 16/06/2026 12:20

TooBigForMyBoots · 16/06/2026 11:50

That's the point of these Russian campaigns, to make people feel threatened, to spread fear and division.

So why does the Prime Minister and much of his government feel the need to participate in spreading fear and division then? Is he trying to compete with the Russians to scare us more?

Out of interest, what exactly are you claiming that the Russians are trying to do and how have they influenced me?

TooBigForMyBoots · 16/06/2026 12:23

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 16/06/2026 12:20

So why does the Prime Minister and much of his government feel the need to participate in spreading fear and division then? Is he trying to compete with the Russians to scare us more?

Out of interest, what exactly are you claiming that the Russians are trying to do and how have they influenced me?

I'm not claiming it. Our security services are claiming it.

Have you found what Serco backtracked on?

TemperanceWest · 16/06/2026 12:24

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 16/06/2026 11:59

It’s not ‘spreading information from an unreliable source’ although I’m sure you’d love to smear the Telegraph as an unreliable source.

It was reported in the Telegraph and by Zia Yusuf that Serco was not intending to abide by instructions from a Reform government.

Just because Serco is now backtracking on what appears to be an activist that has got way above themselves doesn’t mean this is all made up. I’ll take no lessons from you.

It was reported in the Telegraph and by Zia Yusuf that Serco was not intending to abide by instructions from a Reform government

No. This is what the Telegraph article said about SERCO. You are not being truthful.

If you support Reform, Restore, Greens and similar far right/left parties
If you support Reform, Restore, Greens and similar far right/left parties
If you support Reform, Restore, Greens and similar far right/left parties
randomchap · 16/06/2026 12:24

So again you're making assertions without any substance or evidence.