Help end medical misogyny. Sign our petition.

Help end medical misogyny.
Sign our petition.

Sign the petition

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Trooping the colour booing

311 replies

theresalighttofindyou · Yesterday 10:54

AIBU to think this was well deserved?

Kate can glower at people as much as she wants but the monarchy is a rotten institution and people are getting more and more annoyed by it

OP posts:
Thread gallery
6
MulberryBrandy · Yesterday 13:52

A member of this group Republic asked Charles about Andrew. Not long after Charles made the big Mountbatten-Windsor statement. If the Royals only surround themselves with sycophants they will never know what the public feel about the monarchy paying an enormous sum to Virginia Giuffre, sitting on the Epstein emails for 6 years, etc. The Not My King movement is entirely peaceful and just chant and hold up banners. They are repeatedly moved and shut down by the police.

Do you believe in freedom of expression and peaceful assembly, what say you?

AnnieApples · Yesterday 13:54

No one was shouting abuse directly at the children.

I thought it was marvellous. I’d not do it as I’m largely too ambivalent to protest, much as I’m a republican and hate the lot of them. I thought it was great their voices were really heard this time. The utter ludicrousness of these people parading through the streets in carriages. Bring on the boos!

Giantmarshmallowbum · Yesterday 13:56

PrizedPickledPopcorn · Yesterday 11:57

You don’t dismantle the police, or the BBC, or any other organisation that had a bad apple. You build safeguards and make sure they don’t get the opportunities in future.

You are really comparing a rich upper class privileged family with institutional organisations? OK.

I would love the privilege of not paying IHT, if nothing else!

Screamingabdabz · Yesterday 13:57

Booing republicans remind me of those insufferable people who know the cost of everything and the value of nothing. YABU,

Giantmarshmallowbum · Yesterday 13:58

MrsShawnHatosy · Yesterday 13:46

Anyone who uses that phrase is a raging snob!

I believe it has historical roots

nomas · Yesterday 14:00

JacknDiane · Yesterday 13:14

I cant understand how they cant see how unfair and outdated it is to have people sitting in a horse drawn carriage parading by with immense wealth and privilege and we are meant to respect that.
All because Kate married William.

There is something queasy about them being trotted out for the great unwashed to bow and scrape to.

AnnieApples · Yesterday 14:00

I thought Kate glowering was actually the single most interesting thing she’s done since she joined that pointless lot.

She’s usually so Stepford, it was nice to see.

MrsShawnHatosy · Yesterday 14:01

Giantmarshmallowbum · Yesterday 13:58

I believe it has historical roots

That doesn’t make it any better.

Sardaukar · Yesterday 14:04

Poppinpoppinpopcorn · Yesterday 11:17

I really don't think the children benefit at all. Their lives are all mapped out before they are even born. They don't get any real choices about their life. Everyone knows who they are, they have no freedom, every day life is mapped out with security they carnt just decide for example to visit a friends house. I wouldn't want to wish being born royal on any child.

You're right. If I saw a vacancy for a Royal Prince, I wouldn't be at all interested. Free money, lavish housing, endless holidays, and waited on hand and foot? Nah, not interested...

hourspassed · Yesterday 14:04

Yes, I am in favour of the Royals but do feel conflicted at times and I didn't agree with the booing. But it was probably a small number of people, if you consider how many people were there in the crowds.
I'm not sure about becoming a Republic though - who would be the head? We can't even find a PM or political party that we vote in who stays in favour with the public for very long.
Clearly some of the royals have used their position disgracefully and that's a difficult situation to recover from.
I think the Royals are trying to become a more modern version of themselves but it's not going to change overnight. The older generation seem to be the most patriotic and the most in favour of the Royals.
It will change within the next 50 year massively, I don't doubt that. But I'm not sure if it's going to make things better.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 14:05

theresalighttofindyou · Yesterday 13:21

Oh my heart does bleed for George. Set to inherit billions, attending a school that charges hundreds of thousands a year to attend. How awful for him 🙄

???
What school charges hundreds of thousands a year ?

MrsShawnHatosy · Yesterday 14:08

I'm not sure about becoming a Republic though - who would be the head? We can't even find a PM or political party that we vote in who stays in favour with the public for very long.

Other countries such as Ireland manage this perfectly well. Why wouldn’t we be able to?

ikeepforgetting · Yesterday 14:08

It isn't a binary choice between a King or a Trump-like all powerful president. Other Republics have presidents who perform the same ceremonial duties as the royal family might, but without the ridiculousness. You already have a system of government.

AngelsHadGuitars · Yesterday 14:09

Looks to me like she is respecting the protestors thoughts and just sitting still not waving, understanding they do not like royals so she just sits still and doesn't wave and the children follow suit.

She may also think what awful people boo children, entitled, uber posh ones or not?! An awful lot of her charity work is for children so she's probably also thinking wtf?

It must be absolutely terrifying being the mother of royals and going to these big events, I know there is security everywhere and in a million places we don't see or think about too, but it must be frightening knowing so many people hate you and your children's very existence, perhaps the glower you see is a little anxiety on her part of are these peaceful protesters with a right to their thoughts or are these machete wielding maniacs and will security get here in time if one of them turns violent?

MulberryBrandy · Yesterday 14:09

I have looked at the footage and press reports again. It sounds as if Republic were holding up protests and chanting - the booing was the public booing them. The BBC says@

They were especially noisy as the royal carriage procession passed, shouting "Down with the Crown" and "You are not our King," and held up images of Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor.
Some 12 protesters later stood in front of the palace balcony where the Royal Family stood for the flypast, shouting and holding a row of umbrellas on which the phrase "Stop the Reign" was written. They were booed by some in the crowd and moved back by police.
^^

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 14:10

nomas · Yesterday 14:00

There is something queasy about them being trotted out for the great unwashed to bow and scrape to.

Ive never been myself but does everyone watching have to bow and scrape ?

Sardaukar · Yesterday 14:12

Billionaire descendants of cattle and land thieves.

RhosynCymru · Yesterday 14:12

theresalighttofindyou · Yesterday 12:52

Yeah you know what? I am.

I’m bitter and angry that while children starve in this country these little sit on a pile of billions for absolutely no good reason, other than some people deciding centuries ago that they had a god given right to preside over us. I’m angry that Kate dares to sneer at people for expressing their opinion while she’s sat in a gold carriage in an outfit that cost more than most people’s monthly salaries.

@theresalighttofindyou well said!

Lifeomars · Yesterday 14:15

William and Kate seem ok with letting their kids meet and speak to those very odd men who bring crappy Christmas gifts for them and hang around for the church parade every year. I wonder what they are taught in private about how to respond to such bizarre behaviour . Something along the lines of "See our lovely homes, our massive shiny cars, our glittering jewels, our beautiful lands and our gorgeous clothes, well, just grin at the mad people, it's a small price to pay"

DavidStopActingLikeADisgruntledPelican · Yesterday 14:16

HolidayWithHounds · Yesterday 11:59

It can’t be nice for the children, but their parents should stop parading them around at these events if they don’t want them seeing it. People say that the children have to be part of these things because they’re in training and have to get used to Royal life, well then based on that argument they need to see that some people don’t want them, that’s all part of this so called training too then.

The way the children were used at Christmas was appalling. They were taking selfies with strangers, Charlotte even hugged one of them and William introduced all of his children to a man who is basically a stalker. They use their kids to gain favour, look everyone cute kids, so I don’t have much sympathy when they get a dose of the other side.

They should parent and protect their children better, but if they won’t and continue to use them at events, then they’re going to see these things because we allow protesting, as we should.

Opinions may vary. They’ll have to cope with that.

Agree with all of this. It’s a shame the children were put into this situation but their parents chose to do that. The selfies at Christmas with random strangers was something that I was genuinely shocked at. Their kids should never have been put in that situation.

TheRealMagic · Yesterday 14:20

Cheese55 · Yesterday 11:59

They don't know they are privileged as everyone they mix with will have the same as them, albeit more private wealth, but day to day their friends will be as rich as them.

Yes, I think this is exactly the problem and why Harry, for instance, is so resentful but comes across so badly so often in his complaining. All their friends live equally easy, privileged lives, but aren't famous and don't have press intrusion. They live in a world where it is totally normal to be in your 40s and never had a 'real' job, because your job is a little bit at playing at managing your dad's money. To the royal family, comparing themselves to that, they think they have an outrageously bad deal. Obviously compared to actual hardship, or even just the normal trade-offs of a standard life, they live lives of incredible luxury, and actually incredible choice on a day-to-day basis.

User20056 · Yesterday 14:21

Paying for travel and sitting on a sweaty train just to boo at an event on the weekend is a sad thing to do.

They aren’t paid to do that, don’t they have anything they’d rather do with their time? I can’t really get past why anyone would choose to do that.

ThatCyanCat · Yesterday 14:22

Sardaukar · Yesterday 14:04

You're right. If I saw a vacancy for a Royal Prince, I wouldn't be at all interested. Free money, lavish housing, endless holidays, and waited on hand and foot? Nah, not interested...

If it's so easy, why did Diana and Meghan struggle so much? Why did Chelsy Davy decline to become a princess?

It's massively privileged, but it's also a goldfish bowl. Could you be perfectly polite and inoffensive and full of a million etiquette rules all the time, to zillions of people, no matter what you really think of them? While having no privacy, long lens cameras to sell shots of you all over the world, picking apart everything you wear and say and do? You couldn't even have this account on MN in case you got discovered.

I actually don't think I could do it. The wealth would only compensate to a certain level and while I'd love to be richer than I am, I don't think many people need that level of wealth to be happy.

soddingspiderseason · Yesterday 14:22

Have come to the conclusion that this thread is about sowing dissent and division, with no-one actually coming up with any sensible alternative to a constitutional monarchy. “Starving children”. Oh come on. You’d get President Farage if we were a republic and frankly, I’d rather see Kate and her kids than Farage and Musk riding around in a gold carriage.

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · Yesterday 14:23

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · Yesterday 11:25

I’m not sure the children benefit massively. They’re pretty much bred into captivity and paraded around for the peasants to clap/jeer/gawp at.

It’s not a life I’d want for my children.

Being a fairly obscure royal? Something suitable removed from the throne / very far back in the line of succession?

So very little public interest, nice inheritance and known to the people who actually care? I can see the benefits.

But for those close to the throne? Children such as George, Charlotte and Louis? The drawbacks seem obvious to me as well. I don’t think they massively benefit, the cost seems to outweigh the overall benefits…