Trooping the colour booing

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AIBU to think this was well deserved?

Kate can glower at people as much as she wants but the monarchy is a rotten institution and people are getting more and more annoyed by it

I think there is a lot of assumptions about people born into a guilded cage who would probably like nothing more than to not been seen waving like dummies from some pantomime gold coach.

Do you really think they’re sitting there all smug, stroking the jewels and fur, laughing at the peasants and counting their gold coins. No. It’s not a Disney movie. They’re doing their duty. And most of what have belongs to the country.

To be fair, in Kate's case it was a choice. But if it hadn't been her it would have been someone else. And she's very good at the job.

No, the public just watch. Trooping the colour is steeped in history, like some other events involving royalty. I’ve never minded the royal family, they have huge privilege, but also huge demands made of them. To live one’s life in the public eye is not my idea of fun, but it’s their job.

I’ve always quite admired the Princess Royal, and I was pleased when William married Kate, whose maternal ancestry includes miners from the North East. That’s real social mobility within a few generations. I think things will change, but I hope some of the pageantry remains.

If a minority of people feel booing these occasions is important, fair enough.

It seems to have produced a president who has drunk the trans kool aid.

The irony of the monarchy-supporting posters complaining about children being booed - as if the protesters' booing were directed at the children, which it wasn't. If Kate didn't want her children to hear booing she could have left them at home, rather than bringing them to a place where booing was highly likely to happen.

And those monarchists complaining about supposed cruelty to children on here should look at the institution which they support. They are happy for the children to be not just paraded in public, but to be forced into public roles regardless of whether they actually want them. They have the example of their uncle Harry (to say nothing of their grandmother Diana) to see what will happen to those family members who have the temerity to decide it's not for them: ruthless ostracism from the family, and a public hate campaign. (whereas a family member who is treacherous and corrupt - and accused of being an actual child abuser - is protected by them through remaining within the family fold).

The people who support all this would never tolerate it for their own children; yet try to claim that those of us who oppose it are somehow the abusive ones??

As in a facetious tone.

Welcome to reality. Those who booed were entitled to express their feelings. For far too long the Windsors have been protected from the real world. Charles took action against his brother only a few weeks before even more damning revelations about his conduct became public.
As I understand from reading here Charles has an interesting history with some nefarious characters.
Lots of hidden or played down skeletons in that family. Public are not afraid to expose and challenge anymore.

I also feel bad for the kids but tbh why do they need to be there? I know some people will scream ‘tradition’ but why have your kids paraded like waving puppets. It’s so outdated.

Constitutional monarchies are the most stable form of democratic government. The British monarchy is due for some reform but no way would I want to get rid of it. Republics have a much stronger tendency to slide into authoritarianism.

It really isn’t. It’s a phrase that’s been used for at least 100 years. It was originally derogatory but nowadays it’s ironic humour to denote elitism, class division and snobbery.

I agree. I absolutely cringed. They looked miserable and uncomfortable. It’s verging on the grotesque now and Charles needs to know many people are sick of them.

Or become independent.

Believe me, independence from many things would be a relief. It would at least stop the constant moaning.

You talk about president Farage. It’s always the worst options that are trotted out.
so how about king Andrew? What would have happened then?

And that means the Irish system of non executive presidency is fundamentally flawed does it?

I’m genuinely curious - what makes you think that she is very good at the job?

There is a merging of "the monarchy" IE being ruled by a hereditary principle, restricted to one family and "the royal family". The concept of the Royal Family - interest and use of children and the idea that the spouse and offspring of the monarch are just like a ordinary family. No doubt a lot is, but presented in a fluffy way by the media.

Believing the country would be better as a republic is a reasonable ideology - even if you don't agree. Making it personal is tawdry and self defeating.

The difference is 7 people dying, highly unlikely, and Farage winning an election, more likely.

Not with young children in the car. I admired Kate for 'the look' which Charlotte was emulating. Good for Charlotte - it must have been a bit frightening. Save the boos for Andrew

I actually think the No Kings protesters are quite brave to protest at an event like this. There were tens of thousands of people there who wanted to be there to enjoy the event. Just look at the images of the mall when they let the public fill it ahead of the fly past.

The protestors were at best a few dozen - surrounded by people who were booing them and angry at their disruption.

They did well to position themselves near the broadcasting mics to get press attention- which I assume was the whole point - but I can’t see that it’s done much to advance the cause.

Most people seem to like (or at least not actively dislike her) and there’s very little controversy or scandal surrounding her AFAIK.
That probably counts as being good at her job in this particular context.

being inoffensive, fairly well-liked, palatable to as many as possible and scandal free… And stable.
Edit:
Looking good (or at least appropriately „royal“) for certain events so the country seems appropriately glamorous on a world stage (or even domestically) seems to have given her quite a bonus points…

that seems to be what matters most. But that’s an outsider‘s perspective.

In the past when the government behind the scenes knew that the next in line was very unsuitable to the job they were ‘managed’ out of the way.

And it’s very clear now that a lot of people in the government across both main parties cabinets knew what Andrew was up to.

So he would / will never make it to the throne.

Republic, or Not My King, are always very restricted by the police - they always try to pen them into a corner. They were very unfairly treated during the Coronation procession - a monarchy-loving Australian young woman was arrested and held by mistake by the police - just for standing there. We are talking about them. They have been good a highlighting Andrew's nefarious goings on.

I think that’s partly for their own safety - they are always wildly out numbered by the crowds of people who want to see the event - the police have to think about public safety and crowd control.

if he had been the first born male, he would currently be our King though - that’s how that institution has been operating for centuries. He would be King!

There are still unanswered questions into who knew what about his activities within that institution - without Trump releasing the Epstein files, we may never have known anything about it. That’s why people protest because what other route do they have? Writing to your MP who has to swear allegiance to the monarch and, no doubt is hoping for a peerage in return for their service? - it’s all just one big gravy train.

People should also remember that the royals want you to think about them the way they want to be thought of - they would prefer the public not to be educated about how they operate and to apply critical thinking.