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AIBU to consider cutting contact with my difficult elderly mother?

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Tiggermad · 13/06/2026 13:16

I have written on here before but in a different name.
I have a very challenging relationship with my mother. She is in her 80’s.
I am in my 50’s am happily married with 2 adult dc in early twenties still living at home. I work full time in a very stressful but rewarding job in children’s Social care.
She was widowed over 10 years ago and was left a good inheritance as well as house paid off but no private pension. She had spent all of her inheritance in 4 years. So now lives off basic pension. She had a very difficult relationship with my Dad always arguing.
The thing is I now seem to have replaced him in terms of her expectations to keep her entertained and also to some extent financially. She expects me to constantly take her out for meals or shopping when I have very little time to myself. I am expected to pay for it all.
She seems to resent my happiness and success (I have done well in job but also financially we are not rich but fairly comfortable). I’ve worked hard to get where we are as a family.
Every few months she will do something to provoke a disagreement and this is always via messages. It will start with some sort of accusation. Eg if me and husband are going out for a meal for birthday she will ask why she is not coming and when I provide a reason then call me a liar. Insults and accusations of neglecting her then follow. I have done a lot for her in the past but if I say what I’ve done in defence of accusations she will say that’s just what daughters do.
When I try to explain reasons for things her name calling and insults escalate. She will say I am unlovable, cruel, neglectful, a selfish sod.
Eventually after about 4 weeks of this she will come round my house ask if we can be friends but refuse to talk about what happened. She is unable to talk about any disagreement in an adult way if I say we need to talk about it she will say can we not but if we did she will go hysterical and storm off. It will always be my fault. I provoked her.
The thing is each time it gets worse.
And it a never ending cycle. Each time more damage is done as I then feel resentful spending any time with her as I know it will lead to accusations of neglecting her in her old age when the disagreement happen. Nothing I do is ever enough.
Example I recently took her out for shopping and food and spent £50 on her and during one of her recent episodes she focused on the fact that whilst I bought her coffee and cake we shared a sandwich as I don’t each much at lunchtime and neither does she but she said she told her friends and they laughed at the sandwich. She will never pay towards anything she expects me to pay for any meals out etc which I don’t mind but then I’m accused of doing nothing after.
I feel she is cruel, unkind and never acknowledges any good I do.
When I pull back she says I’m a cruel, neglectful daughter and all her friends think I’m horrible.
My husband and dc do see it and encourage me to distance.
I know I now have 2 options to completely cut all contact or stay in contact and have this every 3 months. The thing is she is in her 80’s and whilst she is still fit and healthy (she has a boyfriend and goes out several times a week) but I do worry about her.
I see no end to it that way though as she never acknowledges her treatment of me. I’ve made her that way according to her.
I am at a loss what to do because the impact each time is worse and it’s starting to make me feel very depressed.
i do have a sibling who moved many hours away does very little fur her yet she constantly gushes about her to me.
i cannot see a way out of this.

OP posts:
HoraceCope · 15/06/2026 07:36

out of interest why isnt she invited to the family meals?

thepariscrimefiles · 15/06/2026 07:40

HoraceCope · 15/06/2026 07:36

out of interest why isnt she invited to the family meals?

I assume because she is horrible, cruel and manipulative, will ruin the occasion and no-one enjoys her company.

Tiggermad · 15/06/2026 08:26

DotTheBorderCollie · 15/06/2026 00:20

I can very much relate. I have an elderly very difficult mother too and have always been the family scapegoat. I learned very early on that I could never please her and that my other siblings and even the children of her friends would always be 'better children' than me.

It can have a huge impact on one's mental health. And there's a huge conflict with that and still being expected to love and get along with our mothers no matter what.

Anyway, my hard earned knowledge, for what it's worth, is as follows:

The main thing that helps me is having very solid boundaries and 'rules'. I'm very tit for tat these days and treat her behaviour as if I'm dealing with a recalcitrant child. Consequences for her poor behaviour are also immediate.

My rules are as follows:

  1. I never answer the phone to her. I let it go through to voice mail. I call when I'm ready. If she huffs and doesn't leave a message, I don't call her.
  2. I visit her once a fortnight and I leave the instant she starts being unreasonable. I never stay longer than an hour in any case.
  3. Whenever anyone (usually elderly flying monkeys) see me in the street and start saying 'your poor old Mum' to me I say, 'thanks for your concern, I certainly try to do my best, and please bear in mind that it's possible that you don't have the whole story.' They actually usually do get it. And if they don't, too bad. Then I change the subject or leave the conversation.
  4. I default to never believing anything she says and verifying everything. (She hates that but she does lie or massage the truth constantly so it's necessary.)
  5. I never allow my self to be triangulated with other siblings. My line with my mother is, always, 'well, shall we just call them to see what they say about it then?' That shuts things down really fast.
  6. When she cries and calls me names and accuses me of various evil deeds, I shrug and say calmly 'that's your opinion, not the facts as I recall them'. And I leave.
  7. If she is rude to me, I extend the duration between visits.
  8. I only ever stick to 'pleasant' topics on her interests, eg. tv shows, who's died (!), local news, history etc.
  9. I keep her on an almost complete information diet regarding my husband and children, none of whom wish to visit her.
  10. I am very 'grey rock' (coolly professional, boring) with her and her few friends.

I could go on but you get the picture.

I have also been NC in the past and honestly that was bliss. However, I stepped back up to LC because my father (the enabler) died and she was struggling quite a bit. I've just outlined the above to indicate that LC is manageable but only if you have very strict guidelines and scripts for yourself. This saves you having to get stressed or think in your feet. It's still stressful though.

As somewhat of an aside, you would already know that longstanding patterns of dysfunctional behaviour are generally referred to as having personality disorders. Your mother is probably in the cluster B category if she's always been like this (I'm a psychologist and obviously can't diagnose someone I've never met but the signs are all there based on what you're saying.)

My point is: she is highly unlikely to ever change. It's you who has to change your strategies. And them stick to them come hell or high water. But be aware that when she sees you mean business she will ramp it right up. This means what you're doing is working and you do not abandon your strategies. In other words it gets worse before it gets better. She will try all sorts of tactics to get you to stop 'malfunctioning'. This is called an extinction burst. Do not reward any poor behaviour. If she behaves then be civil. But don't ever think she's changed.

Another point I'd add is that she appears to be able to 'behave' when it suits her and can probably also 'perform well' in public, which tells me that it's important for her to be seen as a 'good' person. She then also 'has to' smear and relatively downgrade you and make you 'the cause of all the problems' otherwise she'd be forced to take some accountability for her own actions. And this is very unlikely to happen. She is also quite selective in her targets. This is why I think her behaviours indicate a personality disorder rather than just early dementia. This is also why she frames you as being the one with MH problems. (Similarly, my mother also decided I have mental illness, that there was 'something wrong with' me mainly because I refused to go along with her manipulations.)

I could say so much more but won't make this any longer. I want to say I am so concerned at how beaten down you seem. I'm relieved and heartened that you have great support in your husband and son but I believe therapy would also really help you. In the meantime, can I suggest the following resources for you?

'But it's your family' by Dr Sherrie Campbell

and the Out of the Fog website.

Best of luck. This isn't easy. It can be one of the most difficult relationships in life. And people with happy families just don't get it, which can leave you feeling so alone. But you're not alone. Keep posting.

Thank you this has helped me so much. I will look at following your advice.
I have often wondered if I am the problem but then realise I’m not. I’ve been made to feel that way by DM and Dsis.

OP posts:
Tiggermad · 15/06/2026 08:27

HoraceCope · 15/06/2026 07:36

out of interest why isnt she invited to the family meals?

She has been fur many years but I stopped when I am paying yet still receiving abuse.
Often this would be whilst at or after the meal.
This year I have taken her out for Mothrrs day and she joined at DS birthday. After all I gut was abuse and how I never take her anywhere.

OP posts:
justasking111 · 15/06/2026 09:46

DotTheBorderCollie · 15/06/2026 00:20

I can very much relate. I have an elderly very difficult mother too and have always been the family scapegoat. I learned very early on that I could never please her and that my other siblings and even the children of her friends would always be 'better children' than me.

It can have a huge impact on one's mental health. And there's a huge conflict with that and still being expected to love and get along with our mothers no matter what.

Anyway, my hard earned knowledge, for what it's worth, is as follows:

The main thing that helps me is having very solid boundaries and 'rules'. I'm very tit for tat these days and treat her behaviour as if I'm dealing with a recalcitrant child. Consequences for her poor behaviour are also immediate.

My rules are as follows:

  1. I never answer the phone to her. I let it go through to voice mail. I call when I'm ready. If she huffs and doesn't leave a message, I don't call her.
  2. I visit her once a fortnight and I leave the instant she starts being unreasonable. I never stay longer than an hour in any case.
  3. Whenever anyone (usually elderly flying monkeys) see me in the street and start saying 'your poor old Mum' to me I say, 'thanks for your concern, I certainly try to do my best, and please bear in mind that it's possible that you don't have the whole story.' They actually usually do get it. And if they don't, too bad. Then I change the subject or leave the conversation.
  4. I default to never believing anything she says and verifying everything. (She hates that but she does lie or massage the truth constantly so it's necessary.)
  5. I never allow my self to be triangulated with other siblings. My line with my mother is, always, 'well, shall we just call them to see what they say about it then?' That shuts things down really fast.
  6. When she cries and calls me names and accuses me of various evil deeds, I shrug and say calmly 'that's your opinion, not the facts as I recall them'. And I leave.
  7. If she is rude to me, I extend the duration between visits.
  8. I only ever stick to 'pleasant' topics on her interests, eg. tv shows, who's died (!), local news, history etc.
  9. I keep her on an almost complete information diet regarding my husband and children, none of whom wish to visit her.
  10. I am very 'grey rock' (coolly professional, boring) with her and her few friends.

I could go on but you get the picture.

I have also been NC in the past and honestly that was bliss. However, I stepped back up to LC because my father (the enabler) died and she was struggling quite a bit. I've just outlined the above to indicate that LC is manageable but only if you have very strict guidelines and scripts for yourself. This saves you having to get stressed or think in your feet. It's still stressful though.

As somewhat of an aside, you would already know that longstanding patterns of dysfunctional behaviour are generally referred to as having personality disorders. Your mother is probably in the cluster B category if she's always been like this (I'm a psychologist and obviously can't diagnose someone I've never met but the signs are all there based on what you're saying.)

My point is: she is highly unlikely to ever change. It's you who has to change your strategies. And them stick to them come hell or high water. But be aware that when she sees you mean business she will ramp it right up. This means what you're doing is working and you do not abandon your strategies. In other words it gets worse before it gets better. She will try all sorts of tactics to get you to stop 'malfunctioning'. This is called an extinction burst. Do not reward any poor behaviour. If she behaves then be civil. But don't ever think she's changed.

Another point I'd add is that she appears to be able to 'behave' when it suits her and can probably also 'perform well' in public, which tells me that it's important for her to be seen as a 'good' person. She then also 'has to' smear and relatively downgrade you and make you 'the cause of all the problems' otherwise she'd be forced to take some accountability for her own actions. And this is very unlikely to happen. She is also quite selective in her targets. This is why I think her behaviours indicate a personality disorder rather than just early dementia. This is also why she frames you as being the one with MH problems. (Similarly, my mother also decided I have mental illness, that there was 'something wrong with' me mainly because I refused to go along with her manipulations.)

I could say so much more but won't make this any longer. I want to say I am so concerned at how beaten down you seem. I'm relieved and heartened that you have great support in your husband and son but I believe therapy would also really help you. In the meantime, can I suggest the following resources for you?

'But it's your family' by Dr Sherrie Campbell

and the Out of the Fog website.

Best of luck. This isn't easy. It can be one of the most difficult relationships in life. And people with happy families just don't get it, which can leave you feeling so alone. But you're not alone. Keep posting.

Elderly flying monkeys. I love that. My mother had them. One was unpleasant at the funeral luckily her comment was made to DH so I didn't get to hear it.

FloofyKat · 15/06/2026 09:51

Great compassionate and practical advice there from @DotTheBorderCollie . Hope you can take it on board ans start getting your life and headspace back.

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