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Enid Blyton - what's been edited out/changed??

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Distantview · 12/06/2026 11:53

Have picked up a 2021 version of The Magic Faraway tree. I used to love this series as a child.

It has a disclaimer about being edited to meet modern standards.

Now I'm trying to work out what was in the original that would be offensive today - does anyone know?

OP posts:
Prombles · 12/06/2026 12:40

ohyesido · 12/06/2026 12:36

He did and it was highly politically incorrect. A six letter word starting with N.

That wasn't Timmy, it was one of the dogs owned by Lal and Laddo in the Galliano books.

BoredZelda · 12/06/2026 12:40

coulditbeme2323 · 12/06/2026 11:55

I only buy them online or in charity shops, I don't want my kids reading this watered down nonsense.

It’s a few name changes to modernise it. The story is exactly the same.

ComtesseDeSpair · 12/06/2026 12:41

coulditbeme2323 · 12/06/2026 12:31

I don't think it is about getting irate, but I also don't think anybody has the right to change somebodies work.

Creating narratives and characters which child audiences can identify with is really important in encouraging readers, particularly reluctant readers, to engage with reading. If changing names and currency and small parts of narrative encourages more children to identify better with what they’re reading and want to continue to read, that’s a good achievement. Enid Blyton wanted her books to encourage children to read, to imagine, and to be inspired, and I don’t think she’d be upset that her books were able to continue to do that generations on.

The UK’s demographic is also very different now to what it was when the books were written for an almost universally white audience: for white children today, some things in the books might just be politically incorrect; for children of other racial backgrounds, it’s devastating to read derogatory things about people like you. Publishers do have a duty to amend future publications to acknowledge that.

BoredZelda · 12/06/2026 12:42

SnugglyJumpersMakeItBetter · 12/06/2026 12:11

I hate when they change the currency! I have some 'updated' ones that have switched from shillings to pounds. Why on earth?! Also, why doesn't Darrell slap Gwendolyn anymore? She realises very quickly it was a dreadful thing to do, apologises and confesses to everyone. It's a 'learning moment' or whatever surely?

That, and, she deserved a slap. 😆

coulditbeme2323 · 12/06/2026 12:43

BoredZelda · 12/06/2026 12:40

It’s a few name changes to modernise it. The story is exactly the same.

But there is no need.

ChildrenOfTheQuorn · 12/06/2026 12:44

SnugglyJumpersMakeItBetter · 12/06/2026 12:11

I hate when they change the currency! I have some 'updated' ones that have switched from shillings to pounds. Why on earth?! Also, why doesn't Darrell slap Gwendolyn anymore? She realises very quickly it was a dreadful thing to do, apologises and confesses to everyone. It's a 'learning moment' or whatever surely?

Darrell doesn't slap Gwendoline??? That's an absolute turning point in the book! She knows she went too far and feels guilty and ashamed. It's not presented as an ideal reaction ffs.

CaesarAugusta · 12/06/2026 12:44

ohyesido · 12/06/2026 12:36

He did and it was highly politically incorrect. A six letter word starting with N.

Really? I read Famous Five in the 1950s, and the name then was definitely Timmy.

Are you sure this hasn't somehow been conflated with Dambusters film, which did feature a dog with that name?

Gladystheimpaler · 12/06/2026 12:44

I'm as woke as you get and I hate revising past texts. How the hell do you learn from history if you erase it? I'd rather have conversations with my kids about the things in there, how the past was different and some of the horrible things people said and did so they know the weight behind them.

Plus changing Dick and Fanny or updating to Pamela or decimal currency is dumbing down. Let kids giggle if they find it funny, let them see unfamilar names, let them ask what the hell a shilling is!

scalt · 12/06/2026 12:44

mostly from the Famous Five.

Spankings- now telling off.
Golly- now whew.
Shillings.
Kit bags: now rucksacks.
Shorts- now jeans.

To name but a few.

Prombles · 12/06/2026 12:44

... and the Galliano offensive name is still in my edition published in 1976! Unfortunately highly offensive language like that was kept well beyond first editions of books. It's also in a number of 'Jennings' books - again, the 1970s Armada editions, not first editions. But Timmy was always called Timmy, thankfully.

Sartre · 12/06/2026 12:45

I’ll play devils advocate and say changing Dick and Fanny is less about being PC and more about kids bursting with laughter and basically not being able to read it properly as a result.

NovemberMorn · 12/06/2026 12:46

I don't think anything should be changed in children's classic stories.
A warning that some words, acts and expressions used when the book was written would be considered racist or improper today should be enough.

Gladystheimpaler · 12/06/2026 12:46

ComtesseDeSpair · 12/06/2026 12:41

Creating narratives and characters which child audiences can identify with is really important in encouraging readers, particularly reluctant readers, to engage with reading. If changing names and currency and small parts of narrative encourages more children to identify better with what they’re reading and want to continue to read, that’s a good achievement. Enid Blyton wanted her books to encourage children to read, to imagine, and to be inspired, and I don’t think she’d be upset that her books were able to continue to do that generations on.

The UK’s demographic is also very different now to what it was when the books were written for an almost universally white audience: for white children today, some things in the books might just be politically incorrect; for children of other racial backgrounds, it’s devastating to read derogatory things about people like you. Publishers do have a duty to amend future publications to acknowledge that.

No, publishers do not have a duty to revise texts. Add warnings, context, yes. But their main duty should be to publish texts by writers from many different backgrounds (and pay them equally) so that people can choose not to read Enid Blyton.

BoredZelda · 12/06/2026 12:46

Melarus · 12/06/2026 12:39

We had a lot of old story books, hand-me-downs and such, and I used to change them on the fly as I was reading. Mostly the racist and fat-shaming stuff, but also the scene in Richard Scarry where Farmer Alfalfa, being the breadwinner, buys Mrs Alfafa a pair of earrings as a reward "for looking after the house and children so well". She is delighted - not least because the earrings are in the shape of mini egg-beaters. Know your place, wives!

I remember reading my original version of the Secret Garden to my daughter. That took a lot of changing as I read!

coulditbeme2323 · 12/06/2026 12:48

NovemberMorn · 12/06/2026 12:46

I don't think anything should be changed in children's classic stories.
A warning that some words, acts and expressions used when the book was written would be considered racist or improper today should be enough.

This

ItsGregg · 12/06/2026 12:48

I wonder if Mr Pinkwhistle books still exist?

Prombles · 12/06/2026 12:50

Gladystheimpaler · 12/06/2026 12:44

I'm as woke as you get and I hate revising past texts. How the hell do you learn from history if you erase it? I'd rather have conversations with my kids about the things in there, how the past was different and some of the horrible things people said and did so they know the weight behind them.

Plus changing Dick and Fanny or updating to Pamela or decimal currency is dumbing down. Let kids giggle if they find it funny, let them see unfamilar names, let them ask what the hell a shilling is!

I fully agree with removing racial slurs from children's books, simply because if they read them independently they may lack the context to be aware that those words are highly, highly offensive.

It would be awful for the victim if a child innocently used such a word and caused deep hurt and offence, and awful for a well-intentioned child to be led into causing distress and anger.

I don't agree with removing harmlessly dated things such as pre-decimal currency and old-fashioned names and concepts.

LittleGreenDragons · 12/06/2026 12:53

MorrisonsPlatter · 12/06/2026 11:54

Lashings of ginger beer

Well, that's three bad words so no wonder! 😱

scalt · 12/06/2026 12:53

BoredZelda · 12/06/2026 12:46

I remember reading my original version of the Secret Garden to my daughter. That took a lot of changing as I read!

Yes, very British Empire. Martha’s comment with “white” and “respectable” next to each other has not aged well. I dare not quote it in full here!

x2boys · 12/06/2026 12:54

Gladystheimpaler · 12/06/2026 12:44

I'm as woke as you get and I hate revising past texts. How the hell do you learn from history if you erase it? I'd rather have conversations with my kids about the things in there, how the past was different and some of the horrible things people said and did so they know the weight behind them.

Plus changing Dick and Fanny or updating to Pamela or decimal currency is dumbing down. Let kids giggle if they find it funny, let them see unfamilar names, let them ask what the hell a shilling is!

Yes its not that difficult im 52 and was born after decimilation so wasent familiar with old money either but figured it out.

Gladystheimpaler · 12/06/2026 12:55

Prombles · 12/06/2026 12:50

I fully agree with removing racial slurs from children's books, simply because if they read them independently they may lack the context to be aware that those words are highly, highly offensive.

It would be awful for the victim if a child innocently used such a word and caused deep hurt and offence, and awful for a well-intentioned child to be led into causing distress and anger.

I don't agree with removing harmlessly dated things such as pre-decimal currency and old-fashioned names and concepts.

Yes you do have a point, there are probably different categories of offense. Racist names/terms can get in the bin, but changing details like how a woman is sterotyped as a homemaker shouldn't, as that serves as a historical text and I want my daughters to understand how women were represented in the past.

NovemberMorn · 12/06/2026 12:56

LittleGreenDragons · 12/06/2026 12:53

Well, that's three bad words so no wonder! 😱

😁

ohyesido · 12/06/2026 12:56

CaesarAugusta · 12/06/2026 12:44

Really? I read Famous Five in the 1950s, and the name then was definitely Timmy.

Are you sure this hasn't somehow been conflated with Dambusters film, which did feature a dog with that name?

I stand corrected it was Operation Chastise that had the racial dog

Becuriousnotjudgemental1980 · 12/06/2026 12:57

When I read Malory Towers as a child there was a scene where a girl goes into the dining hall and she’s forgotten to put her blouse on. That’s not in the version my daughter read!

Prombles · 12/06/2026 12:58

Gladystheimpaler · 12/06/2026 12:55

Yes you do have a point, there are probably different categories of offense. Racist names/terms can get in the bin, but changing details like how a woman is sterotyped as a homemaker shouldn't, as that serves as a historical text and I want my daughters to understand how women were represented in the past.

Yes, I think that's a fair line to draw.