To despair at this government??

[IllTakeACheapSeatPlease]

This shambolic government - its utter chaos, the Tories were bad but Christ this lot are on another level.
Im really worried about where we’re heading, riots breaking out everywhere, the armed forces imploding, the police untrustworthy, we’re a laughing stock on the international stage.
Id say to call an early GE but I’m not a fan or reform either. At this point - I’d take the Tories back.
WTF is going on? I’m approaching 50 and I’ve never known the country in such a state.

AIBU to think we’re literally on the edge now? And what can actually be done to save it??

I am prone to anxiety so feel free to tell me on catastrophising

Someone has to do it. Have you ever liked a PM or were they all shit too?

The leaders' popularity ratings disagree with you.

@EasternStandard who have you liked?

if the UK bought in Denmark levels of immigration control then people might feel like they were being listened to.

my mum is 87 and she doesn't remember it being this shit

I’m 72 and I remember it being far worse. The succession of governments we had throughout the 70s - the Tories and Labour took it in turns - were shockingly bad. The basic rate of tax was 33%, inflation was running in double digits - it hit 27% at one point. There were endless strikes, shortages, power cuts. This is a walk in the park in comparison.

I just wish the government would do something to ease the pressure on everyone immediately.
Whether its looking at taxes or doing something about housing and high rents.
Just something to give us hope instead of people just working to pay bills.
You go out now even just to the park or supermarket and everyone looks so down and unhappy. The country also feels very nervous at the moment like people are waiting for something to happen

@LuckyHazelFox so?

Starmer is listening to nobody except his ego, his chancellor and Labour back benchers. He's exerting no control and that's why we are a laughing stock.

Very informed and eloquent. I guess Kemi can pack her bags now you've declared she's "shit".

This.

I just wish the government would do something to ease the pressure on everyone immediately.Whether its looking at taxes or doing something about housing and high rents.

We can’t do more quantitive easing & we have a dearth of social housing.

@LuckyHazelFox why do I have to rate her? Why would she have to ride off into the sunset because I think she’s shit?

My mum is late 70's and she says the same - worst it's ever been apart from the coal miners strikes where they had regular power cuts and 'the unions, not the government were running the country'. With crazy inflation, super high mortgage rates (I moaned about ours being 4% rather than the 1.5% we had 5 years ago and laughed and said 'try 30%, that's what we had)

Same (re balanced view) she grew up in poverty, and they worked their way out up to a comfortable life, they have worked across both public and private sectors.

I did vote for them, but massively regret it now.

I understand the lack of social housing. But in my town they have built lots of housing in the past 5 years . The prices start at £220000 which is the issue. No one can afford them.
Meanwhile my landlord turned a small 4 bedroom house into a hmo with 6 bedrooms , charges £620 per month per room and yet these landlords claim they're skint. He now has 6 houses.

Kemi seems to be the most reasonable person to vote for right now, imo. She’s no nonsense and very bright.

I did say since the 70s

Yeah, I like Kemi. I just worry about who is behind her

Well her mortgage rate never hit anything near 30% for a start so I’ll take her memory with a pinch of salt.

I moaned about ours being 4% rather than the 1.5% we had 5 years ago and laughed and said 'try 30%, that's what we had)

Apart from the fact a low % of a high value isn’t too dissimilar to a high % of a low value I’m not sure when we had 30% interest rates

You're part of the generation that basically got handed houses on a plate which are now worth 10 times more and you still claim your skint and can’t afford a little cut in your pensions despite having generous savings.

Yes please. Get this rabble out.

Pmsl. We’re back to hating on Boomers again. Doesn’t take long until that old chestnut rolls around again.

How rude.

I'm not a labour voter .but .from my limited understanding..
the conservatives had 14 years to get us in this mess
You absolutely can't blame Labour for everything going on
They have only had 2 years in power so far ,and things can't change overnight.
The media seem to be all conservative/ reform leaning ..so they jump on everything labour do and try to turn it in to a negative..
Labour have stopped illegal immigrants bringing family over ,and have removed a large number already ,.they have invested heavily in boarder control who are working with the police to try to get the people smugglers at the source
They have started bringing railways back in the government control
They are trying to bring water companies back in to government control,but it takes time as they are on contacts and they don't want to have to buy them back ,they are just not renewing contracts.
He's trying to stop rioting by coming down hard and pushing people through the courts quickly to keep peace on the streets ..but even that is criticized and people are saying he's pushed violent crime and rapes to the back of the que .
But the conservatives cut the courts back so much financially there is a huge backlog not of labours making .
If we ..the UK .. thought the conservatives could do better than labour,then they would be in power ..but we clearly didn't, because all people could think about was getting conservatives out ..
2 years later people are still not happy and now want labour out .
One of the issues is he was/ is a human rights lawyer..he fought the government to give benefits to immigrants..he does seem to be keen to give our money away ,and he definitely is not able to gauge the feeling of the UK ..he seems to either miss it ,or just doesn't care .
For everything that any extreme party promises on either side ,they have to get it through parliament,,and as we saw with benefit changes ,it's not always easy getting change through parliament
Any new party in power is going to find it difficult getting extreme change through parliament...and change happens slowly..none of them have a magic wand .
I think things have got so difficult in the UK ,that people would be dissatisfied with any party in power . because nothing would happen quick enough to keep people happy.
I really don't know what the answer is
But I do think the media is fueling a lot of the dissatisfaction towards labour

There is talk that if Burnham becomes pm he will call a GE to 'gain a bigger mandate'. He knows Kemi is gaining ground. Plus if he does it now he can promise XY and Z, but if he does 3 years in power and nothing changes then that much harder to get votes - it's much easier to promise than to deliver.

However, with Reforms gains, there is a risk Reform could win, which is unthinkable