To despair at this government??

[IllTakeACheapSeatPlease]

This shambolic government - its utter chaos, the Tories were bad but Christ this lot are on another level.
Im really worried about where we’re heading, riots breaking out everywhere, the armed forces imploding, the police untrustworthy, we’re a laughing stock on the international stage.
Id say to call an early GE but I’m not a fan or reform either. At this point - I’d take the Tories back.
WTF is going on? I’m approaching 50 and I’ve never known the country in such a state.

AIBU to think we’re literally on the edge now? And what can actually be done to save it??

I am prone to anxiety so feel free to tell me on catastrophising

I'm 71 and i disagree.

The division in society is due to people’s lack of hope. Austerity has axed public services. The rich have got a lot richer and the poor a lot poorer. People work really hard in ‘good’ jobs but everything has got so expensive, there’s nothing left after paying for the essentials. The quality of life has just plummeted. This isn’t because of 2yrs of a Labour government. Before the Iran/US/Israel war, waiting lists in the NHS had started to come down, the government finances were beginning to look a lot better, immigration is half what it was (if that’s something that riles you. Less me tbh). I am not a fan of KS/the government especially, but I don’t feel like you’re really looking at this from every angle.

See the advantage of the Guardian is that it's not owned by a billionaire proprietor.

If someone chooses to consume media owned by billionaire proprietors then you have to accept they achieve advantages by making the population scared and divided.

I don't feel scared and I hate division. Maybe there's something in it?

The Guardian is as doom laden and click baity as any media. Just in a different way.

I'm not making a particular case for the guardian and I don't advocate for it.

Just worth remembering that the fact that our people are scared and divided is a deliberate act driven by right wing media some very dodgy political actors and social media companies.

Saying the UK is broken is a bold statement and worth considering what facts have led to that conclusion. And further why it's all Labours fault.

Really I don't have much sympathy for people worried about the world or issues in society who can't think critically about it.

Some will think this in return. If you’re still for Labour you’re in the minority.

I'm not making a particular case for the guardian and I don't advocate for it.

It's still a fact it's the only non-billionaire owned paper in the UK, depending on how you classify Nikkei's ownership of the FT.

The Guardian is owned by the Scott Trust, which operates solely to secure the newspaper's financial and editorial independence. No shareholders.

Despairing of this government, after high hopes, is the new national pastime. 🤷‍♀️

Whatever Nige 😭😭😭

I agree with this too.

Yes but the point I'm making is if you consume right wing media you are more likely to run around with your hair on fire thinking the country is crap. The more they can divide us the easier a fascist government will emerge.

I may be a Labour supporter but I'm not miserable.

Alas the Guardian refused for years to recognise women's sex based rights. So I wonder if I can believe anything they print.

Why would disagreement on one issue mean that you believe nothing that a paper prints?

@BIossomtoes and I are mildly on oppositional political teams, but as we are of similar age and remember the 70s (which were very tough times, much tougher even than now) I am in complete agreement with her that there needs to be a cross party decision to achieve a settlement for pensioners that does not allow those with very little to be punished. And yes, there are lots of people who worked very hard indeed and prospered, from whom a little more should be clawed back. But IMO the balance needs careful nuance. My DM who got the shit end of a 1970s divorce needed pension credit; I don't.