To despair at this government??

[IllTakeACheapSeatPlease]

This shambolic government - its utter chaos, the Tories were bad but Christ this lot are on another level.
Im really worried about where we’re heading, riots breaking out everywhere, the armed forces imploding, the police untrustworthy, we’re a laughing stock on the international stage.
Id say to call an early GE but I’m not a fan or reform either. At this point - I’d take the Tories back.
WTF is going on? I’m approaching 50 and I’ve never known the country in such a state.

AIBU to think we’re literally on the edge now? And what can actually be done to save it??

I am prone to anxiety so feel free to tell me on catastrophising

It's not the only thing holding the uk back though. And it's also here to stay and needs to be dealt with.

Whats the plan for growth given that you aren't in the EU any more

You are right the Bank of England is expected to keep rates unchanged - before the Iran war, analysts had widely expected it to cut rates this year.

This would have happened to any government.

I like Kemi, but the tories were totally toxic by the end. They needed to go.

With Labour, it's just been very disappointing. They looked like a good prospect at the time but there seems to have been so many mistakes and bad calls.

They have a huge problem with housing yes, but not for that reason specifically.

Actually it is a plan as if it wasn’t they would be actively trying to work against that model, and they are not.

They have the ability to bring in legislation to counteract pinch points and what they have done instead is drive growth down by making it more difficult to operate businesses and more expensive to employ staff whilst simultaneously adding billions to the welfare bill - any savings they had planned were u-turned on due to back bencher opposition.

Well you won’t hear me disagree on benefits, that was incoherent. Labour got a large majority because it offered a centrist position, and the implication for finances was cuts and taxes. Not just taxes

Just as whatever they do will be right for others .

I thought that too. Public sector and people relying on benefits perhaps?

The government got in because the leader fronting the party seemed reasonable and John Major beige. The reality unfortunately was behind him was a party full of activists and so nothing sensible was ever going to be passed.

Public sector are starting to get laid off under this government. When it reaches critical mass expect a surge to the right.

Well I’m public sector and I’m a life long Tory voter. We aren’t all cut from the same cloth.

Furlough introduced people to the idea of free money from the government. It should have been loans similar to student loans that people paid back when their incomes recovered.

Furlough was absolutely rinsed by the fraudsters.

OAPS might accept scrapping the triple lock, if working age benefits were also cut, particularly to foreign born people.

Personal loans! Absolutely ridiculous, and politically impossible.

To be fair, if you're going to shut down people's businesses and livelihood, there had to be compensation for that.

I mean the government mandated the industries closed, why on earth should the workers need to take a loan due to the government policy?

Its often said that the public have short memories when it comes to politics

This thread shows this to be very true

op I suggest you stop reading/listening/watching the news as you are obviously struggling with taking on new news and recalling correct information of the past maybe its overload for you and you are getting confused which is leading to a state of high anxiety

Then they shouldn’t have done it! They capitulated to the masses, much like what’s happening right now with everything that’s running the country into the ground. Where are the strong politicians?!

It’s more about not deflecting and denying what Labour are doing rn as some do.

Please everyone place your heads collectively into the sand. Thank you.

So what are you saying, no lockdown?

No they wouldn’t. Anyway, it will end up being imposed on pensions and working benefits, so it’s a false choice.

TBH Labour are timid. They are horrifically unpopular for what? I mean, that is the joke. If you are going to be horrifically unpopular you may as well legislate and push forward a strong agenda. They don’t even do that!

Definitely short memories. 30,000 in one demonstration in Trafalgar Sq against Mrs Thatcher's poll tax The OP was a teenager then but it was huge. That was just one of the 'riots' - the poll tax was done away with by John Major.

I saw a report that came out at the end of the last government. State pension is around 30 per cent of mean income. The triple lock is being used to bring this figure up to about 33 per cent. Then it will be a single lock on mean earnings.