To despair at this government??

[IllTakeACheapSeatPlease]

This shambolic government - its utter chaos, the Tories were bad but Christ this lot are on another level.
Im really worried about where we’re heading, riots breaking out everywhere, the armed forces imploding, the police untrustworthy, we’re a laughing stock on the international stage.
Id say to call an early GE but I’m not a fan or reform either. At this point - I’d take the Tories back.
WTF is going on? I’m approaching 50 and I’ve never known the country in such a state.

AIBU to think we’re literally on the edge now? And what can actually be done to save it??

I am prone to anxiety so feel free to tell me on catastrophising

God yes please.

You're really trivialising the challenge of covid but implying Mr beer swigging Starmer was better behaved? He put pressure on Johnson to not lift covid restrictions. He took the knee at the same time when rioters were running amock during lockdown. Dealing with two global crises of Ukraine and covid. That's one huge challenge for a PM.

Exactly. So we stick with 2.

Im 53 and this is the worst government I've seen by far. Cost of living through the roof, high taxes, benefits bill beyond economic sustainability, no defence spending, overrun with illegal immigrants, riots on the streets....and Kier Starmer actually believes hes doing a great job

Are they? Really??

I think it more nuanced than that. I think most people are anti illegal inmigration. People coming into the country illegally and immediately going onto the benefits system. I would say the vast majority are pro immigration of people coming here legally to contribute.

They have been absolutely appalling. From the moment they came into power. Freebies. The Winter Fuel Allowance scrapped for the old. Consulting over this that and the other instead of cracking on. They had years of time in Opposition to work out what they would do. They got in only because the Right were split. Farage split the Conservative vote. They forgot that is why they were in power and thought they were given a massive thumbs up from the country. They were not. They have not really sorted themselves out identity wise.
Sunak was right about the taxes. Nobody listened.
The NHS has not been sorted out. Defences are in a mess. And as for Immigration. They have reduced it. But haven’t reduced it enough. And have no answers to the boats. Yet.
The riots are just stirred up and few rentamob types turn out.
Britain deserves better. That is true.
And too many people unable to work. It doesn’t reflect a positive thriving society.

It's not about time taken to train. There are plenty of trained drs, many can't get jobs, so go abroad for more money, lower taxes and better conditions.

There are also enough teachers if all those trained stay working in schools. But budget cuts mean there are less jobs for teachers. And less TA's which means teachers jobs are much morestressful, so many are leaving the profession.

I don't think anyone expected labour to create perfect schools and nhs overnight, people are generally realistic. But they didn't expect them to make them worse!

I can literally tell you I’m out of work now because of Labour. This is what they did; put up national insurance contributions for employers.
Made a series of un-funded pay rises for teachers and support staff, I think I got two in fairly quick succession and the teachers got two, maybe three - these were un-funded though meaning they weren’t included in the money the government gives the schools.
Cut the money the government gives the school.

What that means for the school I used to work at is larger class sizes due to teachers also being let go. Less support staff to support the children, including an increase in SEN children year on year who have/had EHCPs which would usually require MORE staff, but I assume the reason for trying to push the white paper through is they know they can’t possibly fund 1-1 care for children going forward.

It’s really been quite the shit show in my job sector and I now need to look around for a new job, but of course the labour market has tanked so who knows what I’ll be doing this time next year. Perhaps filling potholes.

It’s because it’s 6th form economics.

They are just such fucking idiots. They bring in policies that are supposed to put more money in the back pocket of workers however they aren’t properly funded so instead the worker loses their job.

Even the breakfast clubs they promoted as helping to lift kids out of poverty weren’t properly funded. That meant that whilst initially my old workplace was trying to offer the service there wasn’t enough money to pay the staff and provide the food. Same with childcare. All these free hours being talked about except they aren’t funded properly which means instead they have to try and raise money other ways or else they shut.

It’s a completely lack of joined up thinking and no political will to do the right thing.

Anyone with half a brain cell, not tainted by ideology could have predicted that. And they did.

But Reeves does not listen.

Half a job Labour.

100%.

They are utterly inept.

First rule - stop doing dumb shit.

A lot of roads lead back to Reeves…

Are you back to accusing posters of being trolls?!!!!!!!!!!! There not enough exclamations marks in the world if you are accusing me of that.

This kind of post is on every thread by a Labour supporter. You’re just not doing well.

This

14 years if chaos, some short memories here.

Disturbing 😆 🤣 😂 let's not worry about an incompetent PM and his Chancellor but instead have a go at new posters. Do you expect this forum to just cater to your requirements and likes, to stay as your echo chamber? Big up Kemi for no reason? There's plenty of reason to 'big her up' although I think she's doing a good job of that herself.

I thought it was impossible for this government to be worse than the last lot. I was wrong.

It's in the absence of anything substantial to offer.

It’s ridiculous. Their leader is about to be ousted and still peddling that stuff.

People need to be responsible enough to have children they can afford not rely on the taxpayer to fund and if you see your parents living off benefits, scamming the system it will be more likely you will do the same.

Huh? Celebrities are no more prescient than anyone else - how were they supposed to predict these issues more than the average voters?

And tbh if youre stupid enough to vote based on what your favourite soap star tells you then you deserve all you get!

I agree with the pp - not really sure how you can possibly think this lot are WORSE than the tories - partygate? Barnard castle? Jamie/Katie Wallis being given a restraining order? Literally everything about the liz truss government? Everyone on this rogues gallery https://news.sky.com/story/all-the-tory-mps-who-have-been-suspended-since-rishi-sunak-became-prime-minister-13117813 ?

(I didnt vote for Labour by the way but just come on!)

I believe the reason a lot of people comment on the very low rate of benefit fraud is that NO government wants to tackle it, they just dont have the resources. We have over 20 barber shops in our local town most of which dont seem to have many customers. Birmingham is awash with illegal shops selling whatever you want. We have nail bars everywhere, 'cash only'.

No Government wants to come in and put resources into this.

AI has helped massively and PIP is out of control.