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"Race-based pogrom" and "huge act of self-harm by mindless idiots who are actually only damaging their own futures".

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Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 10/06/2026 09:39

Northern Ireland's First Minister Michelle O'Neill says "groups of masked men" were "burning families out of their homes"

One pastor in north Belfast says black people's homes were targeted, while an MP tells the BBC there was a "race-based pogrom"

The PSNI Chief Constable Jon Boutcher says the violent disorder in Belfast was a "huge act of self-harm by mindless idiots who are actually only damaging their own futures".

I agree with all the quotes. Sick of mindless racist thugs and their 'protests', where they look like they are enjoying themselves while they commit violence and set fire to things.

Homes set on fire in Belfast night of violence as MP says people targeted based on skin colour - follow live

On one street, hundreds of masked men carrying bottles and bricks set bins on fire and shouted "foreigners out", our reporter says.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cr47x99k5n6t?post=asset%3A168181b7-98e1-4ed8-b83b-ae8a57afaf32#post

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ByGraptharsHammer · 10/06/2026 19:23

DamonFoxPackingUpNorthernSoul · 10/06/2026 19:15

Wrong religion ..wrong area
Has now moved onto poc.

Well yes. And the recruitment base is diversified. This is very bad news for the UK.

TooBigForMyBoots · 10/06/2026 19:23

Have I missed something? What does George Floyd have to do with the violence in Belfast?Confused

TemperanceWest · 10/06/2026 19:24

ByGraptharsHammer · 10/06/2026 19:21

One, an overlap with English extremists with Loyalism which seems to be increasing. Two, a direct call across the sectarian divide to Catholics. Three, explicitly racial. It is. It is beyond usual Loyalist “street” policing

None of this is “normal”. Not that I dismiss what happens in NI, but this is different

Were Catholics involved last night? If so, how do you know? @TooBigForMyBoots do you know if this is the case?

Persephonia1966 · 10/06/2026 19:25

dartmoordays · 10/06/2026 19:13

I’m willing to bet there’s more to it.

A bit like how there always is, but the uneducated jump on the bandwagon at every opportunity

Praying for the people of Belfast tonight

I really don't like bringing up someone's criminal record in these circumstances. Especially if it's a tit for tat "gotcha" against people who bring up George Floyd's. The victim isn't doing that, he is in a coma in hospital and has no control over what a bunch of people are saying online or the riots themselves. I also thought it was poor taste to bring up George Floyd's record as a gotcha while his family were grieving.
People are complicated and live complex lives with lots of shades of grey. By all accounts he was vulnerable and likely had a difficult life. Regardless, it's irrelevant in the same way that it was for Floyd because the punishment for crime isn't/shouldn't be death or a life changing attack. You don't need to be a "saint" for your life/violent end to that life to mean something.

DuncinToffee · 10/06/2026 19:26

Winter2020 · 10/06/2026 19:15

She doesn't care that other people are feel unsafe under diversity is our strength, so she should put her money where her mouth is. I'm sure she will feel fine about her children coming and going past a HMO full of recent arrivals. Diversity is our strength remember.

You could always shout at a HMO, it's a popular way to spend time for some. Not necessary safe company to find yourself in, mind.

ByGraptharsHammer · 10/06/2026 19:26

TemperanceWest · 10/06/2026 19:24

Were Catholics involved last night? If so, how do you know? @TooBigForMyBoots do you know if this is the case?

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Apparently a call was made across the divide to unite on race. This was reported in the Guardian. I did not find that reassuring. No one should.

Ablondiebutagoody · 10/06/2026 19:26

Lonelycrab · 10/06/2026 18:58

Where is Farage?

Where is his condemnation of this awful, mindless violence?

Just seen him on the news saying exactly that

Puffinsandcoffee · 10/06/2026 19:28

dartmoordays · 10/06/2026 19:13

I’m willing to bet there’s more to it.

A bit like how there always is, but the uneducated jump on the bandwagon at every opportunity

Praying for the people of Belfast tonight

Yeah, there's more to it. Another reason the rioters talking about "community" really grates. The victim had already been let down by that "community", and wasn't an innocent community service type either. That's of course not to say what happened is anything other than despicable. Weaponising it in the name of "community" is.

TemperanceWest · 10/06/2026 19:30

Ablondiebutagoody · 10/06/2026 19:26

Just seen him on the news saying exactly that

What did he say, exactly? Because I saw something earlier and it was very weasely in that he fell short of condemning the rioters. He condemned the violence of the attacker, but didn't specifically mention the rioters.

KatiePricesKnickers · 10/06/2026 19:30

Well this was all to be expected. The immigration was out of control, and the government has failed to deport or detain illegal immigrants.
The British electorate were never consulted on the amount of immigration, and when questioned they were accused of being racist and being too thick to appreciate the cultural enrichment that the unlimited immigration brought.
Well the end result will be a Reform government. I think it’s inevitable unless Labour start mass deportations.

Puffinsandcoffee · 10/06/2026 19:32

Winter2020 · 10/06/2026 19:15

She doesn't care that other people are feel unsafe under diversity is our strength, so she should put her money where her mouth is. I'm sure she will feel fine about her children coming and going past a HMO full of recent arrivals. Diversity is our strength remember.

I most certainly do care that people feel unsafe. Fear makes some people dangerous. The fact is that a HMO full of men with very little to lose is suboptimal for them and likely their neighbours, but that's emphatically not because of their race.

CrowFeathers · 10/06/2026 19:34

Lonelycrab · 10/06/2026 18:58

Where is Farage?

Where is his condemnation of this awful, mindless violence?

There’s the slight embarrassment that the Sudanese man in Belfast who tried to blind and behead Stephen Ogilvy is reported to have been given leave to remain in the UK when the Home Secretary was Suella Braverman. She defected to Reform in January and Farage lauded her as a big hitter for his party.

TooBigForMyBoots · 10/06/2026 19:42

ByGraptharsHammer · 10/06/2026 19:26

Apparently a call was made across the divide to unite on race. This was reported in the Guardian. I did not find that reassuring. No one should.

I've heard some Catholics joined the protest at Ardoyne shops. But most left quickly.

SM posts called for demos in Catholic areas, but nearly all went unheeded. To the best of my knowledge, there were no protests on the Falls or in New Lodge where the assault happened.

TemperanceWest · 10/06/2026 19:43

TooBigForMyBoots · 10/06/2026 19:42

I've heard some Catholics joined the protest at Ardoyne shops. But most left quickly.

SM posts called for demos in Catholic areas, but nearly all went unheeded. To the best of my knowledge, there were no protests on the Falls or in New Lodge where the assault happened.

How are things at the moment? I hope you are OK.

DuncinToffee · 10/06/2026 19:49

Muslims are locked in a mosque ‘for their safety’ amid Glasgow violence

Anti immigration protesters?

Backedoffhackedoff · 10/06/2026 19:56

Cailleach1 · 10/06/2026 19:04

@Backedoffhackedoff ’No one needs to carry or show a passport to travel between the uk and Ireland.’

You said this, didn’t you? First of all, the CTA was only ever for those of Irish and British nationality travelling between Ireland and the UK. It was never meant to include others.

Secondly, my experience in the past was that even eligible people usually showed a passport on arriving in Dublin airport from the UK. I certainly did. Well, besides that one time.

london to Dublin by air is just one route to travel though isn’t it? As I said airlines may insist you have one.

bur as an example we regularly travel by ferry without them and of course, can you freely travel from NI to the south without a passport.

DuncinToffee · 10/06/2026 20:02

TemperanceWest · 10/06/2026 19:30

What did he say, exactly? Because I saw something earlier and it was very weasely in that he fell short of condemning the rioters. He condemned the violence of the attacker, but didn't specifically mention the rioters.

Edited

He told Beth Rigby 'things will continue to kick off' and 'a few bad actors'

He also defended his earlier claim that leave to remain visas are handed out "like smarties"

Lonelycrab · 10/06/2026 20:05

Ablondiebutagoody · 10/06/2026 19:26

Just seen him on the news saying exactly that

Nothing online visible as far as I can see.

Please link to his clear condemnation, I’d like to watch it

These Are just his foot soldiers aren’t they, destroying communities in the name of racial purity

And he, and his supporters, are completely fine with that.

TemperanceWest · 10/06/2026 20:05

DuncinToffee · 10/06/2026 20:02

He told Beth Rigby 'things will continue to kick off' and 'a few bad actors'

He also defended his earlier claim that leave to remain visas are handed out "like smarties"

He is so vile.

GiaGia16 · 10/06/2026 20:06

KatiePricesKnickers · 10/06/2026 19:30

Well this was all to be expected. The immigration was out of control, and the government has failed to deport or detain illegal immigrants.
The British electorate were never consulted on the amount of immigration, and when questioned they were accused of being racist and being too thick to appreciate the cultural enrichment that the unlimited immigration brought.
Well the end result will be a Reform government. I think it’s inevitable unless Labour start mass deportations.

Exactly.

CrowFeathers · 10/06/2026 20:07

Farage is hampered in his usual rhetoric by the fact that the attempted murderer (Sudanese national) Hadi Alodid was given leave to remain in the UK under the watch of Home Secretary Suella Braverman, currently of Reform UK.

Gealach · 10/06/2026 20:07

KatiePricesKnickers · 10/06/2026 19:30

Well this was all to be expected. The immigration was out of control, and the government has failed to deport or detain illegal immigrants.
The British electorate were never consulted on the amount of immigration, and when questioned they were accused of being racist and being too thick to appreciate the cultural enrichment that the unlimited immigration brought.
Well the end result will be a Reform government. I think it’s inevitable unless Labour start mass deportations.

Interesting that it happened in one of the least diverse areas of the UK.

travellinglighter · 10/06/2026 20:22

My son is in university in Belfast and I have just had a call regarding this stuff off him. He’s not far from where it was happening last night. He’s had to go out to get food and the local shops are closed and shuttered, deliveroo is definitely not delivering. He reckons there’s going to be at least one more night of violence and it should settle a bit.

Saw something on threads where some bloke claims his Muslim neighbour asked if the kids could stay in his house as she was scared of them coming for her.

mathanxiety · 10/06/2026 20:24

Persephonia1966 · 10/06/2026 14:54

I'm not from NI either. But I know enough to know that a hardcore loyalist in Belfast is unlikely to consider himself a Celtic victim of British colonisation.

The poster who made the comment about colonisation...again was clearly referring to an imagined invasion of Ireland and ultimate 'replacement' of white, Christian (lol @ that) Irish with darker skinned non Christians.

It's straight out of the MAGA handbook.

Abitofalark · 10/06/2026 20:34

Backedoffhackedoff · 10/06/2026 16:15

we all understand the reason there is an open border

The point is, denying there is one is both wrong and plays into the protestors hands that the left don’t understand the issue

and whilst Ireland is a island nation the people and government or the north have no control over their immigration polocies

No one needs to carry or show a passport to travel between the uk and Ireland. Airlines etc may insist you need one to travel on their service.

I believe they have tightened up on arrangements for travel between Ireland and the UK because the Common Travel Area arrangements between the two countries are for Irish and UK citizens. As I understand it this means checking passports for all travellers in order to know who is Irish or UK and who isn't. These regulations don't affect travel between Northern Ireland and GB as it is
of course within the UK.