"Race-based pogrom" and "huge act of self-harm by mindless idiots who are actually only damaging their own futures".

[Batmanisaplaceinturkey]

Northern Ireland's First Minister Michelle O'Neill says "groups of masked men" were "burning families out of their homes"

One pastor in north Belfast says black people's homes were targeted, while an MP tells the BBC there was a "race-based pogrom"

The PSNI Chief Constable Jon Boutcher says the violent disorder in Belfast was a "huge act of self-harm by mindless idiots who are actually only damaging their own futures".

I agree with all the quotes. Sick of mindless racist thugs and their 'protests', where they look like they are enjoying themselves while they commit violence and set fire to things.

There is an open border between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. Although you must be legally allowed in both jurisdictions so you could be caught at some point.

But really, it’s quite open and for very good reason. It’s a critical part of the GFA.

It doesn’t even have anything to do with this crime. But I see the DUP are calling for the border to be closed! Any excuse.

You want them to close that border again? Get the army out so undertrained soldiers can shoot innocent people in the back of the head as they pass through checkpoints? Grand. That'll sort it.

Can you imagine!

Dragging us back there, guns pointed in windows like the 90s.

The people calling for these things, who have never lived it, hVe no idea what they're going to cause with this nonsense

Who are you planning to mass deport?

Just been reading that Republicans are planning to mobilise to protect the homes targeted by loyalist racist rioters. This would be taking things to a serious new level. What a mess, please God people cop on and Belfast is peaceful tonight

There is a list, an actual list of homes to attack.

Rory Carroll has highlighted that there is not much fear of the police. And he pointed out that the IRA are better at controlling their areas and avoiding riots than Loyalists areas. What he pointedly didn’t say is that those IRA aren’t racist and have similar sentiments.

It is a mess. But it’s not a sectarian mess. It’s a parallel system of racism on line. It is a proper race riot.

Well given the protests in Dublin today it seems discontentment with mass immigration isn’t purely a loyalist sentiment, how they ‘protest’ it does seem to be different however.

There was a peaceful protest outside Stormont today. I think it is wishful thinking to say this is Loyalism with a fresh twist. It is race hatred.

Sorry, I think I must be misreading, but I just have to check - you do know republican doesn't mean "from the Republic of Ireland"? What happens in Dublin and what happens in communities with republican (ie formerly IRA) leadership aren't really connected.

It’s definitely also a sectarian mess though, pretty much all the propaganda for the riot locations originated from loyalist groups. Pretty much all the riots were in loyalist areas, all the destruction was in loyalist areas, by loyalists. Swarms of union flags were flying at all the riot locations and they weren’t held by nationalists.
The IRA does not police nationalist areas, it’s not the bloody 90s. The absence of riots in west Belfast wasn’t because the IRA squashed it.

I mean the air route from say Dublin to London and vice versa and presumably also sea routes - I'm not talking about the land border between Ireland and Northern Ireland where there appear to be no official checks on most travellers, e.g. private motorists - I don't know if there are on buses and trains. Foreign criminal gangs have been moving freely between the two for years.

Agree, though I'd argue that there weren't riots in nationalist areas in part because republican leadership has been so much stronger for so long. Which is to say, the IRA may be allowed to take some credit for the behaviour of the communities it used to police. Gonna get banned here for that, I suspect.

Not if it’s a truthful observation. I don’t read that as support for the IRA as such.

Now that I agree with. Sorry if the word police upset anyone, my point is that thus racism is not a loyalist issue alone. It is festering and generating online, away from old sectarian lines.

The topic is Belfast which is in Northern Ireland which is in the UK.. Dublin isn't in Northern Ireland. It's in Ireland. The capital city in fact. Ireland is a sovereign country. It is not in the UK.

Among a certain class of scumbag maybe. So we get to look forward to more burnt out buses on O'Connell bridge and jd sports getting looted?

I know, I’m pointing out that Irish anti immigration sentiment isn’t exclusive to Northern Irish loyalists. Aka it doesn’t just stem from being ‘British and racist’

I have no idea, it’s not my country.

I agree. But racism on the republican side is absolutely not endorsed by the leadership or most of that community.

And I think the word policing is fine, the IRA did police its own community.

I've already responded to you on this earlier explaining that it was an anti immigrant rally outside government buildings attended by a few hundred people looking for a referendum on the EU migration pact. Can you stop twisting and misrepresenting things. You're not posting in good faith.

🥱

Sticking to facts bores you what a shame

I think you have just proved Boolabus's point.

A few joined the protest near the shops. They were quickly reminded by others that their Ma's and other family members were the children who were attacked while trying to get to Holy Cross school. Quickly sloped off.
No problems in other Nationalist areas as those communities know only too well how the planters operate.
Incidentally Stephen Ogilvie and his attacker were drug buddies. Stephen had previous 161 convictions including one for attacking a woman discharged from hospital who was recovering from a stroke. Judge Fiona Bagnall said during one of his appearances ' you weigh this record you don't read it'

Ach now, that's a recent and temporary situation. I've argued on the thread already about the difference between Irish and republican, but let's not talk about Dublin and Belfast like they're two entirely unrelated cultures