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to be utterly sick of protests, marches, rallies, and riots

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NameChangeMay2026 · Today 01:47

What happened today in Belfast was dreadful. Of course it was.

When Sarah Everard died, there were marches. But a day before she died, an Indian woman Sarah's age was knifed to death in the street in Leicestershire. It was an "honour" killing, I think.

Where was HER lantern on the doorstep of Downing Street? Where was HER march?

My point is, dreadful things happen every day and I am so sick and tired of news items sparking so much public rowdiness. It used to be that the media could report on current events without starting a riot. I know that we have always had riots, but they were the occasional one. And because they were not common, they helped effect change. They were a desperate measure reserved for when nothing else had helped.

Now, together with marches, rallies, and protests, society is constantly disrupted, and I am so, so sick of it. I live in a major city and I can't go anywhere without checking what march, rally, protest, or riot is happening, especially at the weekends. And they are so common that they don't help effect change anymore.

The riots are terrible. Thousands and thousands of pounds' worth of lost property in fires, injured bystanders, police calld away from other duties to attend them. And there are "professional" rabble-rousers who travel to marches, protests, and riots. It's not because they're passionate about a cause. They're just passionate about causing trouble.

I travel for work to major American cities and it's even worse over there. Another day, another riot/protest/march/rally.

They have become a feature of today's society, and I wish they would just stop.

Edit: I actually stay in more because of them. I don't go out of my hotel as much when staying in America, and I don't go to the city centre where I live as much. It's so bad when regular people are put off from walking around city centres because of all these annoying dickheads.

I think it is worse in America, and I'm tired of feeling scared to go out when there, in case I run into an uncontrolled crowd - where the police have guns, and the protestors might, depending on the state.

The burning buildings in Belfast are a disgrace. It's not the owners' fault that this happened.

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toiletpaperthief · Today 16:01

SleeplessInWherever · Today 15:59

Can we behave with the “whataboutery”?

George Floyd has precisely nothing, zero, to do with this. Nothing.

Yes it does, a lot, someone got killed, the people were very angry with the goverment and rioted.

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 16:02

Sardaukar · Today 16:00

And what? Is that a free pass to mutilate him?

Just giving the full story.

When discussing George Floyd people think it’s relevant that he has a criminal background.

Lifeomars · Today 16:02

toiletpaperthief · Today 15:41

In the mean while a millionaire in the US (Elon Musk) keeps uploading the video on his twatter platform and promoting the riots. He won't be charged with anything.

Let that sink in.

And apparently Steven Yaxley Lennon (stage name Tommy Robinson ) is in Moscow with Musk's dad, it might not be true so I will not comment further but I wonder what the "protect our women and girls" contingent make of Erroll Musk who has been accused of sexual abuse by 5 of his children and has 2 children with his step daughter.

PinkMagpie · Today 16:02

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 15:58

Also has a history of violent assault

You’ve come out with some pretty horrifying things on this thread, but this absolutely takes the cake

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 16:03

PinkMagpie · Today 16:02

You’ve come out with some pretty horrifying things on this thread, but this absolutely takes the cake

I stated a fact.

Any reason you’ve read so much into it?

toiletpaperthief · Today 16:04

Lifeomars · Today 16:02

And apparently Steven Yaxley Lennon (stage name Tommy Robinson ) is in Moscow with Musk's dad, it might not be true so I will not comment further but I wonder what the "protect our women and girls" contingent make of Erroll Musk who has been accused of sexual abuse by 5 of his children and has 2 children with his step daughter.

Tommy believes being a white paedo is fine but being a dark skinned one is not. It's all about the colour of your skin, not the crimes you comitt. Being a criminal and running to live on another country (him living in Spain) is fine as long as you are white, but its a bad think when your skin is dark.

PinkMagpie · Today 16:04

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 16:03

I stated a fact.

Any reason you’ve read so much into it?

I won’t be engaging with you any further. Go and take a look at yourself

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 16:06

PinkMagpie · Today 16:04

I won’t be engaging with you any further. Go and take a look at yourself

Oh no, I’m so sad that a fascist far right racist won’t engage with me!

Walkyrie · Today 16:06

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 16:06

Oh no, I’m so sad that a fascist far right racist won’t engage with me!

They’re right. You’ve really shown yourself up.

Whysnothingsimple · Today 16:08

The west is a powder keg waiting to explode which has been whipped up by those who want to see the down fall of western ideology communists and Islamic fundamentalists then Musk et al have been keen to capitalise on those not accepting the communist/islamic fundanentalists. We are basically at war, it’s not going to take much to tip it over the edge.

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 16:08

Walkyrie · Today 16:06

They’re right. You’ve really shown yourself up.

… by stating the same sort of thing that the far right bring up when George Floyd is discussed?

Jellox · Today 16:08

toiletpaperthief · Today 16:01

Yes it does, a lot, someone got killed, the people were very angry with the goverment and rioted.

He was killed by a police officer.

A police officer knelt on his neck until he stopped breathing.

It’s the same reason why Sarah Everards death was also so well known, even though women are killed by men all of the time.

Both cases were years of systematic racism and misogyny from the police force.

Getting killed by a police officer is obviously very different than getting killed by a stranger on the street.

And of course people got angry over it but that still gives no one the right to burn down the homes of other people.

I don’t remember black men burning down white peoples homes after George Floyd and I don’t remember women burning down homes of men after Sarah Everard.

Jellox · Today 16:12

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 16:06

Oh no, I’m so sad that a fascist far right racist won’t engage with me!

You’re allowed to bring up George Floyd’s criminal record - in fact it’s the only argument people seem to have to justify his death.

But you’re not allowed to bring up a criminal record if the person is white.

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 16:13

Jellox · Today 16:12

You’re allowed to bring up George Floyd’s criminal record - in fact it’s the only argument people seem to have to justify his death.

But you’re not allowed to bring up a criminal record if the person is white.

Also, you can justify the attempted murder of a two month old baby. That’s fine, but they draw the line at a neutral statement of fact.

Walkyrie · Today 16:14

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 16:06

Oh no, I’m so sad that a fascist far right racist won’t engage with me!

Just to C&P my post from a previous thread:

Let’s have a look at who has been killed or seriously maimed by poor immigration policy/terrorist ideology from overseas versus far right nationalism.

Immigration policy:
The poor victim in Belfast yesterday
Rhiannon White
Hundreds or thousands of women raped by grooming gangs
The 22 victims of the Manchester Arena attacks
2 victims of the Synagogue attack in October
2021 Liverpool maternity hospital bomber
David Amess (RIP)
3 victims of 2020 Reading Islamist stabbing
2 victims of February 2020 Streatham Islamist stabbing
2020 police officer stabbed by 2 Islamic fundamentalists in Whitemoor prison
Jalal Uddin murdered by fundamentalist Islamists
3 victims of 2018 Manchester train station Islamic fundamentalist stabbing
2018 Westminster car attack
2017 attempted tube bombing (thankfully no fatalities)
2017 8 victims of London Bridge terror attack
2017 3 victims of Westminster terror attack
MP Stephen Timms being stabbed
Lee Rigby

Far right nationalism:
Jo Cox
Victim of Callum Parslow
Finsbury Park Mosque attacker
The unnamed Sikh female victim of a brutal rape

Please do correct me if I have missed any, before clarifying how, given the above, you consider far right nationalism more dangerous than a lax immigration policy and poor control of hostile anti British migration?

Once you factor in the per capita aspect (in that there are far more white Brits than there are followers of Islam, or any other group in total) it’s even worse.

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 16:17

Walkyrie · Today 16:14

Just to C&P my post from a previous thread:

Let’s have a look at who has been killed or seriously maimed by poor immigration policy/terrorist ideology from overseas versus far right nationalism.

Immigration policy:
The poor victim in Belfast yesterday
Rhiannon White
Hundreds or thousands of women raped by grooming gangs
The 22 victims of the Manchester Arena attacks
2 victims of the Synagogue attack in October
2021 Liverpool maternity hospital bomber
David Amess (RIP)
3 victims of 2020 Reading Islamist stabbing
2 victims of February 2020 Streatham Islamist stabbing
2020 police officer stabbed by 2 Islamic fundamentalists in Whitemoor prison
Jalal Uddin murdered by fundamentalist Islamists
3 victims of 2018 Manchester train station Islamic fundamentalist stabbing
2018 Westminster car attack
2017 attempted tube bombing (thankfully no fatalities)
2017 8 victims of London Bridge terror attack
2017 3 victims of Westminster terror attack
MP Stephen Timms being stabbed
Lee Rigby

Far right nationalism:
Jo Cox
Victim of Callum Parslow
Finsbury Park Mosque attacker
The unnamed Sikh female victim of a brutal rape

Please do correct me if I have missed any, before clarifying how, given the above, you consider far right nationalism more dangerous than a lax immigration policy and poor control of hostile anti British migration?

Once you factor in the per capita aspect (in that there are far more white Brits than there are followers of Islam, or any other group in total) it’s even worse.

How about the many hundreds of thousands of DV and sexual assault victims, where the vast majority of perpetrators are white British?

This argument is so dull because you refuse to acknowledge that most Kruger’s aren’t terror attacks, but you hone in on a small minority of crimes to try and prove your point.

You also forgot David Amess.

Far right ideology is so dangerous because of the violence we saw last night.

Walkyrie · Today 16:20

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 16:17

How about the many hundreds of thousands of DV and sexual assault victims, where the vast majority of perpetrators are white British?

This argument is so dull because you refuse to acknowledge that most Kruger’s aren’t terror attacks, but you hone in on a small minority of crimes to try and prove your point.

You also forgot David Amess.

Far right ideology is so dangerous because of the violence we saw last night.

We’re talking strictly about ideological murder. Your deflecting won’t work.

Dandelionsalad · Today 16:20

Jellox · Today 16:08

He was killed by a police officer.

A police officer knelt on his neck until he stopped breathing.

It’s the same reason why Sarah Everards death was also so well known, even though women are killed by men all of the time.

Both cases were years of systematic racism and misogyny from the police force.

Getting killed by a police officer is obviously very different than getting killed by a stranger on the street.

And of course people got angry over it but that still gives no one the right to burn down the homes of other people.

I don’t remember black men burning down white peoples homes after George Floyd and I don’t remember women burning down homes of men after Sarah Everard.

loads of places weren’t burnt down in America in riots after his death. Riots that British politicians justified. In the uk 29 police officers ended up in hospital

Walkyrie · Today 16:20

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 16:17

How about the many hundreds of thousands of DV and sexual assault victims, where the vast majority of perpetrators are white British?

This argument is so dull because you refuse to acknowledge that most Kruger’s aren’t terror attacks, but you hone in on a small minority of crimes to try and prove your point.

You also forgot David Amess.

Far right ideology is so dangerous because of the violence we saw last night.

Also David Amess is on the list but I’m not surprised you missed him. You probably barely read it.

Lifeomars · Today 16:20

A year ago an asylum seeker stabbed a man to death in a branch of Lloyds bank in Derby, a totally random killing which of course devastated the victim' s family who will grieve forever. Does anyone recall any outrage, any rioting? Maybe the fact that the victim's name was Gurvinder Johal had something to do with it. A truly terrible crime but oddly no national outrage and no comment at all from Farage.

Walkyrie · Today 16:21

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 16:17

How about the many hundreds of thousands of DV and sexual assault victims, where the vast majority of perpetrators are white British?

This argument is so dull because you refuse to acknowledge that most Kruger’s aren’t terror attacks, but you hone in on a small minority of crimes to try and prove your point.

You also forgot David Amess.

Far right ideology is so dangerous because of the violence we saw last night.

And yet far right ideology hasn’t killed anywhere near the number of people Islamist ideology has? Despite there being many more white men. Why not?

Jellox · Today 16:22

Dandelionsalad · Today 16:20

loads of places weren’t burnt down in America in riots after his death. Riots that British politicians justified. In the uk 29 police officers ended up in hospital

They did not go and burn white peoples homes in response to the racist attack.

Stop spreading lies.

Walkyrie · Today 16:22

Lifeomars · Today 16:20

A year ago an asylum seeker stabbed a man to death in a branch of Lloyds bank in Derby, a totally random killing which of course devastated the victim' s family who will grieve forever. Does anyone recall any outrage, any rioting? Maybe the fact that the victim's name was Gurvinder Johal had something to do with it. A truly terrible crime but oddly no national outrage and no comment at all from Farage.

I remember this!!! It was widely reported - I remember seeing his photo (the victim), an utter waste. These people are so mentally unstable.

Hellohelga · Today 16:22

Blame the far right who see every crime committed by an immigrant as an excuse to riot, loot, burn. They are full of hate and don’t care two hoots for the victims of the crime, or their families.

Walkyrie · Today 16:23

Hellohelga · Today 16:22

Blame the far right who see every crime committed by an immigrant as an excuse to riot, loot, burn. They are full of hate and don’t care two hoots for the victims of the crime, or their families.

Or blame the people committing the crimes that actually kill people? Or even better blame them both?

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