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to be utterly sick of protests, marches, rallies, and riots

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NameChangeMay2026 · Today 01:47

What happened today in Belfast was dreadful. Of course it was.

When Sarah Everard died, there were marches. But a day before she died, an Indian woman Sarah's age was knifed to death in the street in Leicestershire. It was an "honour" killing, I think.

Where was HER lantern on the doorstep of Downing Street? Where was HER march?

My point is, dreadful things happen every day and I am so sick and tired of news items sparking so much public rowdiness. It used to be that the media could report on current events without starting a riot. I know that we have always had riots, but they were the occasional one. And because they were not common, they helped effect change. They were a desperate measure reserved for when nothing else had helped.

Now, together with marches, rallies, and protests, society is constantly disrupted, and I am so, so sick of it. I live in a major city and I can't go anywhere without checking what march, rally, protest, or riot is happening, especially at the weekends. And they are so common that they don't help effect change anymore.

The riots are terrible. Thousands and thousands of pounds' worth of lost property in fires, injured bystanders, police calld away from other duties to attend them. And there are "professional" rabble-rousers who travel to marches, protests, and riots. It's not because they're passionate about a cause. They're just passionate about causing trouble.

I travel for work to major American cities and it's even worse over there. Another day, another riot/protest/march/rally.

They have become a feature of today's society, and I wish they would just stop.

Edit: I actually stay in more because of them. I don't go out of my hotel as much when staying in America, and I don't go to the city centre where I live as much. It's so bad when regular people are put off from walking around city centres because of all these annoying dickheads.

I think it is worse in America, and I'm tired of feeling scared to go out when there, in case I run into an uncontrolled crowd - where the police have guns, and the protestors might, depending on the state.

The burning buildings in Belfast are a disgrace. It's not the owners' fault that this happened.

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Cherriesandapples1 · Today 14:54

Dandelionsalad · Today 14:49

Attempting to behead someone is a very clear and deliberate act of attempted murder. Acting recklessly is not attempted murder regardless of how potentially horrific the outcome of that reckless act could be.

So I burn down someone's house but I didn't check if anyone was inside. Then I guess I'm only guilty of arson? Don't think that's how it works. They knew there was a high chance someone was in that house and they could've burnt alive

ThreadGuardDog · Today 14:55

toiletpaperthief · Today 14:51

Yes, he was a psycho with mental health problems, unfortunately they come in every shape and skin colour. Lets lock the guy inside Broadmoor and stop burning other peoples property ok?

But the truth here is that he was a failed asylum seeker, and if he hadn’t been given leave to remain it wouldn’t have happened. The people of this country (and for clarity, by that I mean all races and ethnicities) deserve better than a broken system, not fit for purpose and which leaves it’s own citizens at risk.

PigletAdventures · Today 14:55

ThreadGuardDog · Today 14:43

In employing fully qualified doctors from abroad, rather than training domestic graduates from scratch the UK saves roughly between £100k and £250k in upfront medical school and training subsidies per overseas recruit. The British Medical Journal recently reported that relying on overseas doctor recruitment has saved the NHS billions in structural training costs. The significant downside to overseas recruitment is that overseas doctors treat the UK as a stepping stone to gain experience before moving on to higher paying countries like the US, Australia and Canada.

Thank you for bringing up the info. @Pineforests there you go. Thoughts?

Pineforests · Today 14:55

Dandelionsalad · Today 14:49

Attempting to behead someone is a very clear and deliberate act of attempted murder. Acting recklessly is not attempted murder regardless of how potentially horrific the outcome of that reckless act could be.

Arson with Intent to Endanger Life: This occurs when the defendant deliberately sets a fire with the purpose of, or reckless disregard for, endangering human life.

Ah well, at least it's not attempted murder.

PinkandPerky · Today 14:56

Psychopathy is a human brain phenotype that can be found throughout the world.

Perhaps we should be screening for that during all visa, immigration and asylum applications.

Perhaps we should also be screening 18 years old Brits to see if they need extra management if they fit the phenotype.

Cherriesandapples1 · Today 14:57

EasternStandard · Today 14:48

I think is to the gov to ensure crimes such as the Belfast one don’t happen. We don’t need that kind of violence.

Of course work on all violence but there’s no need to ignore the risk of adding more.

So rioting and burning down people's houses isn't adding more violence or is it okay to add more violence if you're British or Irish?

Dandelionsalad · Today 14:59

Cherriesandapples1 · Today 14:54

So I burn down someone's house but I didn't check if anyone was inside. Then I guess I'm only guilty of arson? Don't think that's how it works. They knew there was a high chance someone was in that house and they could've burnt alive

So they didn’t know if anyone was inside? They might have thought it empty. You also don’t know anything about their mental health.

We don’t imprison people for attempted murder if they drink and drive despite the chance they might kill someone.

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 15:00

Dandelionsalad · Today 14:59

So they didn’t know if anyone was inside? They might have thought it empty. You also don’t know anything about their mental health.

We don’t imprison people for attempted murder if they drink and drive despite the chance they might kill someone.

It’s all to do with the recklessness of doing it.

ThreadGuardDog · Today 15:02

PinkandPerky · Today 14:56

Psychopathy is a human brain phenotype that can be found throughout the world.

Perhaps we should be screening for that during all visa, immigration and asylum applications.

Perhaps we should also be screening 18 years old Brits to see if they need extra management if they fit the phenotype.

But is it necessarily psychopathy ? What if it’s just pure hatred for those of a different race than your own ? I think there has to be a nod to nature v nurture here.

Dandelionsalad · Today 15:03

Pineforests · Today 14:55

Arson with Intent to Endanger Life: This occurs when the defendant deliberately sets a fire with the purpose of, or reckless disregard for, endangering human life.

Ah well, at least it's not attempted murder.

So now we have established we have no idea if they were setting out to murder the children, we can use more accurate language - their action endangered the lives of the children.

Cherriesandapples1 · Today 15:03

Dandelionsalad · Today 14:59

So they didn’t know if anyone was inside? They might have thought it empty. You also don’t know anything about their mental health.

We don’t imprison people for attempted murder if they drink and drive despite the chance they might kill someone.

They have no reason to think it was empty, they were houses on a residential street
I don't know anything about their mental health and I don't know anything about the man who tried to behead the man in Belfast either
But I still think both things are horrific and in both situations the perpetrator should be held accountable for their actions
Why don't you?

Jellox · Today 15:04

Dandelionsalad · Today 14:59

So they didn’t know if anyone was inside? They might have thought it empty. You also don’t know anything about their mental health.

We don’t imprison people for attempted murder if they drink and drive despite the chance they might kill someone.

They knew people were inside.

Theres a video of a man saying that he is born and bred in Belfast and he was begging them not to set fire to his car as it’s parked outside his home and it will spread to the house with people and pets inside.

He told them he was not an immigrant and he was one of them and they still did it.
His house and all his possessions are destroyed.

They were initially targeting the homes and cars of immigrants.
So they were asking the non-immigrant neighbours to take their kids in because the men were setting fire to their houses.

The men knew that people were home.
They knew there were children because people were shouting it at them.

They didn’t knock on the doors and check the homes were empty first.

Why are you defending their actions?

Dandelionsalad · Today 15:04

ijustwanttoworkout · Today 15:00

It’s all to do with the recklessness of doing it.

And they should be punished for it (or treated if a mental illness).

Dandelionsalad · Today 15:05

Cherriesandapples1 · Today 15:03

They have no reason to think it was empty, they were houses on a residential street
I don't know anything about their mental health and I don't know anything about the man who tried to behead the man in Belfast either
But I still think both things are horrific and in both situations the perpetrator should be held accountable for their actions
Why don't you?

Where did I say I didn’t think they should be held to account?

EasternStandard · Today 15:06

Cherriesandapples1 · Today 14:57

So rioting and burning down people's houses isn't adding more violence or is it okay to add more violence if you're British or Irish?

Why paraphrase so inaccurately?

I haven’t posted this or the shouting post below.

The gov basic job is to ensure the Belfast violence doesn’t happen, that means addressing why the perpetrator ended up doing it and how to stop more crimes. Nowhere did I post what you had typed.

toiletpaperthief · Today 15:07

The justice system exists for some reason: little psycho should be locked for life in Broadmoor and the fire loving rioters should be billed for the destroyed property, that includes: cars, homes and whatnot. Justice applied to all.

PinkandPerky · Today 15:09

ThreadGuardDog · Today 15:02

But is it necessarily psychopathy ? What if it’s just pure hatred for those of a different race than your own ? I think there has to be a nod to nature v nurture here.

I think you have to have a high degree of psychopathy to inflict violence upon an innocent person. I think you also have to have a high degree of psychopathy to be radicalised into hate and violence towards other religions or nations without rationalising the impact on innocent people.

I think it's one way we could begin to sort the wheat from the chaff. Amongst Brits, and amongst anyone wishing to join us in living in the UK.

Dandelionsalad · Today 15:09

toiletpaperthief · Today 15:07

The justice system exists for some reason: little psycho should be locked for life in Broadmoor and the fire loving rioters should be billed for the destroyed property, that includes: cars, homes and whatnot. Justice applied to all.

Broadmoor is a secure hospital for treatment, not punishment, it is not part of the justice system.

Holidaymodeon · Today 15:10

ThreadGuardDog · Today 13:25

Agree somewhat. Some of the threads on MN regarding benefits, pensioners, unemployment etc, seem to bear this out because people prefer to punch down, and while they’re doing that the super rich who own most of the wealth in the country, as well as rich employers and greedy landlords ripping off the tax payer via UC are left alone.

Yes this. I didn’t know how to articulate what I’m feeling but I don’t think these things escalate by chance or happen in isolation , obviously there are genuine unprompted attacks by people, sometimes those who are mentally ill or those who are just bad people but there’s a lot of hatred incited, it’s just got worse and worse, I could weep an often do!

EasternStandard · Today 15:10

PinkandPerky · Today 15:09

I think you have to have a high degree of psychopathy to inflict violence upon an innocent person. I think you also have to have a high degree of psychopathy to be radicalised into hate and violence towards other religions or nations without rationalising the impact on innocent people.

I think it's one way we could begin to sort the wheat from the chaff. Amongst Brits, and amongst anyone wishing to join us in living in the UK.

Do you know what’s happening in Sudan? There’s a lot of violence inflicted on many people.

Cherriesandapples1 · Today 15:11

toiletpaperthief · Today 15:07

The justice system exists for some reason: little psycho should be locked for life in Broadmoor and the fire loving rioters should be billed for the destroyed property, that includes: cars, homes and whatnot. Justice applied to all.

I doubt the ones burning down the houses have the money to pay back for everything they have destroyed and that still wouldn't be justice for the people who's lives were at risk when they set fire to their houses, they should both be taken through the legal system fully

ArabellaScott · Today 15:12

NameChangeMay2026 · Today 02:11

It's CONSTANT. And I don't think politicians are swayed by trouble-makers anyway.

ETA: The media busted the grooming gangs. Votes for women had a clear objective against something that was very clearly not fair. And they didn't riot like they do nowadays. The Equality Act was updates to existing anti-discrimination legislation and would have happened without marches and protests.

I'm not saying there is never a place for protests. But they are ALL the time, and they are often not peaceful.

Edited

Aye. Social unrest is difficult, dangerous, and damaging.

We should all be asking how we got to this point, and what is the route through.

The answer is not more authoritarianism.

Holidaymodeon · Today 15:12

PinkandPerky · Today 15:09

I think you have to have a high degree of psychopathy to inflict violence upon an innocent person. I think you also have to have a high degree of psychopathy to be radicalised into hate and violence towards other religions or nations without rationalising the impact on innocent people.

I think it's one way we could begin to sort the wheat from the chaff. Amongst Brits, and amongst anyone wishing to join us in living in the UK.

It’s often very vulnerable people who are radicalised, in whatever direction, preyed upon and groomed, even if to use they might look like they evil they do and believe, they’re often coerced at some point in the proceedings, loneliness, directionless, not fitting in etc , not an excuse but it’s not as simple as psychopaths and non psychopaths

toiletpaperthief · Today 15:13

Dandelionsalad · Today 15:09

Broadmoor is a secure hospital for treatment, not punishment, it is not part of the justice system.

Sorry was not aware, substitute "Broadmoor" for a psychiatric jail where they can lock up this guy. If you deport this wacko back to his country he might probably get into another dingy and come back.

Cherriesandapples1 · Today 15:15

Dandelionsalad · Today 15:05

Where did I say I didn’t think they should be held to account?

You seem to be happy to defend the people burning down houses as a bit reckless and be questioning whether they had poor mental health. But you seem to be treating the person who try to behead the man in Belfast as something entirely different.
Both should be held accountable for traumatising people, the damage and injuries they have inflicted and it's pure luck that no-one has died yet.

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