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To think it is posh and or pretentious to say you are "drawing" a bath?

142 replies

OonaStubbs · Yesterday 22:34

What do you think. My DP always says this but I think it is very strange and old fashioned to say this instead of just saying you are running a bath?

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UndertheBeard · Today 11:45

ConstanzeMozart · Today 11:42

I mean, it might be used in a very general way to include garnishes or sauces to go with a particular dish,
Which is precisely how I use it.
In any case, it's not that deep, it's just a little thing I say for a laugh.

I'm not sure I've ever said it. It is a nice word. I will find an opportunity to use it.

PinkTonic · Today 11:51

MasterBeth · Today 09:45

Salt, pepper and mustard.

For me, condiments is an overly technical word for everyday things. Like hot beverages for "tea and coffee and things like that."

"Would you like a hot beverage?" = what a robot might say.

I’d associate the term ‘hot beverage’ with the sort of person who would inappropriately use ‘yourself’ and ‘myself’. I don’t think the word condiments is in that category at all. It’s not a word I’d use a lot, but say I was explaining why I don’t eat supermarket sandwiches I might say it’s because I don’t like multiple condiments in one sandwich (pickle AND mayo 🤢). We run baths I think but I wouldn’t think anything of it if someone said draw.

ConstanzeMozart · Today 11:54

UndertheBeard · Today 11:45

I'm not sure I've ever said it. It is a nice word. I will find an opportunity to use it.

You have to say it in a knowingly bad attempt at a French accent. Or in the manner of Richard Gere saying it Grin

OtterlyAstounding · Today 12:00

It's not pretentious, just old-fashioned/different, and there's nothing wrong with enjoying language and having fun with it.

I'm in New Zealand and I switch between the two; I grew up saying 'draw', but as most people say 'run' for a bath, it's rubbed off on me. But I always draw the curtains.

I tend to just say 'a tea' or 'a coffee' if I'm being casual, but if I'm being more formal I'll say 'cup of tea/coffee'.

Condiments just get called what they are - mustard, tomato sauce, relish, etc as we rarely have more than one or two on the table.

I also use the term 'luncheon plates' - is that still a thing in Britain? Because I don't know anyone outside my family who uses it in NZ.

UndertheBeard · Today 12:02

ConstanzeMozart · Today 11:54

You have to say it in a knowingly bad attempt at a French accent. Or in the manner of Richard Gere saying it Grin

I'm vegetarian, so have no appreciation of what possible accountrements might be needed for a steak tartare...?

(My French accent is more Pepe le Pew.)

ConstanzeMozart · Today 12:07

UndertheBeard · Today 12:02

I'm vegetarian, so have no appreciation of what possible accountrements might be needed for a steak tartare...?

(My French accent is more Pepe le Pew.)

Google says, 'shallot, cornichon, anchovy, capers, chives, croutons, Worcestershire sauce, Tabasco sauce, salt and pepper on the side.'

A Pepe le Pew accent is just the ticket.

OtterlyAstounding · Today 12:10

UndertheBeard · Today 11:39

But they mean completely different things. 'Accoutrements' means equipment, accessories, trappings. If you were eating a plate of fruits de mer, you'd be supplied with various accoutrements to let you crack crab or lobster claws and winkle out the meat etc. If you were serving caviar, the correct accoutrements would be non-metallic spoons.

I mean, it might be used in a very general way to include garnishes or sauces to go with a particular dish, but the word itself doesn't mean the same as condiments.

In food terminology, accoutrements are specifically sauces, garnishes, or side dishes and such - basically added extras and flourishes that improve on a dish. So it's different to the general usage of the word.

UndertheBeard · Today 12:15

ConstanzeMozart · Today 12:07

Google says, 'shallot, cornichon, anchovy, capers, chives, croutons, Worcestershire sauce, Tabasco sauce, salt and pepper on the side.'

A Pepe le Pew accent is just the ticket.

My vegetarian self thinks this sounds more like a set of things designed to cover up the fact you're eating raw meat, rather than to enhance it... Grin

lemmein · Today 12:17

Chandler says ‘drew a bath’ in Friends so I assumed it was used more in America but google said it’s considered old fashioned there too!

TorroFerney · Today 12:17

Jc2001 · Today 11:37

What's weird is people not taking 5 seconds to Google the origin of a word or phrase before they dismiss it a weird.

I never use the term but I did know it's an old fashioned word and didn't mean someone drawing a picture of a bath or something.

Indeed. Why are people delighting in their limited vocabularies and laughing or mocking those who know a variety of words. I know which side I’d rather be on.

MasterBeth · Today 12:24

UndertheBeard · Today 11:39

But they mean completely different things. 'Accoutrements' means equipment, accessories, trappings. If you were eating a plate of fruits de mer, you'd be supplied with various accoutrements to let you crack crab or lobster claws and winkle out the meat etc. If you were serving caviar, the correct accoutrements would be non-metallic spoons.

I mean, it might be used in a very general way to include garnishes or sauces to go with a particular dish, but the word itself doesn't mean the same as condiments.

Hmm. They don't mean completely different things.

They mean overlapping things.

Used in a knowing way, accoutrements is more playful and fun.

Language doesn't have to be pedantic and robotic.

ConstanzeMozart · Today 12:26

UndertheBeard · Today 12:15

My vegetarian self thinks this sounds more like a set of things designed to cover up the fact you're eating raw meat, rather than to enhance it... Grin

I'm not veggie, but I'm not keen on the idea of raw meat and I know what you mean Grin

MasterBeth · Today 12:28

PinkTonic · Today 11:51

I’d associate the term ‘hot beverage’ with the sort of person who would inappropriately use ‘yourself’ and ‘myself’. I don’t think the word condiments is in that category at all. It’s not a word I’d use a lot, but say I was explaining why I don’t eat supermarket sandwiches I might say it’s because I don’t like multiple condiments in one sandwich (pickle AND mayo 🤢). We run baths I think but I wouldn’t think anything of it if someone said draw.

I think saying "I don't like pickle and mayo in the same sandwich" is much more evocative and expressive than "I don't like multiple condiments..."

UndertheBeard · Today 12:42

PinkTonic · Today 11:51

I’d associate the term ‘hot beverage’ with the sort of person who would inappropriately use ‘yourself’ and ‘myself’. I don’t think the word condiments is in that category at all. It’s not a word I’d use a lot, but say I was explaining why I don’t eat supermarket sandwiches I might say it’s because I don’t like multiple condiments in one sandwich (pickle AND mayo 🤢). We run baths I think but I wouldn’t think anything of it if someone said draw.

Yes, that's exactly who would use the term 'hot beverage'!

Calliopespa · Today 12:46

I don't find it pretentious, just a bit dated.

Depending on how it is used, I do find "Dahling" a bit pretentious if it is someone who doesn't even know me because it seems designed to create an effect. That is the sort of thing I find pretentious, but not an old-fashioned, slightly dated expression.

It's just slightly old duffer, not posh.

ETA and even plain old "Darling" doesn't bother me. It's when it is sing-songy and drawn out in an attempt to sound very posh!

Calliopespa · Today 12:49

PinkTonic · Today 11:51

I’d associate the term ‘hot beverage’ with the sort of person who would inappropriately use ‘yourself’ and ‘myself’. I don’t think the word condiments is in that category at all. It’s not a word I’d use a lot, but say I was explaining why I don’t eat supermarket sandwiches I might say it’s because I don’t like multiple condiments in one sandwich (pickle AND mayo 🤢). We run baths I think but I wouldn’t think anything of it if someone said draw.

I would too.

"Yourself" really grates on me when it gets used in a grammatically incorrect way, but I try to not get irritated as I know it is usually an attempt to be very polite and use the "long fancy version" - even if half the time it is just wrong!

Whosthetabbynow · Today 12:55

Not something you hear in my part of SE London

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