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Why so much hate for Landlords on MN?

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coulditbeme2323 · 04/06/2026 16:00

Who do LL's get so much hate on MN?

It seems so much more hate than there is any real life.

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JimBobsWife · 11/06/2026 08:07

TransportNerd · 10/06/2026 22:59

Why can't they afford houses? Because some people are bloody hoarding them.

This is just not the case. People have always rented, for various reasons. Not everyone wants to buy.

Your ire is directed at the wrong people.

AgentJohnson · 11/06/2026 08:12

Why do you think OP? I have had some very, very, shitty landlords. They made my life and that of my child a misery with their poor quality housing and high rents.

coulditbeme2323 · 11/06/2026 08:47

TransportNerd · 10/06/2026 22:59

Why can't they afford houses? Because some people are bloody hoarding them.

Can you show me one area where there aren't houses to buy because Landlords have purchased them all?

Just one please.

If anything, it's a buyers market at the moment.

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coulditbeme2323 · 11/06/2026 08:47

AgentJohnson · 11/06/2026 08:12

Why do you think OP? I have had some very, very, shitty landlords. They made my life and that of my child a misery with their poor quality housing and high rents.

How poor are we walking?

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Alottatopspin · 11/06/2026 10:14

Seems like OPs question has been more than answered but they’re still not having it!
You can disagree with the answers OP, doesn’t mean they aren’t valid points.

ConcernedLandlord · 11/06/2026 10:15

TeaPot496 · 04/06/2026 16:10

Agreed. Whilst they earnestly insist they're "making no profit"

So that mortgage is interest-only is it? 🙄

Most of them are, yes.

coulditbeme2323 · 11/06/2026 10:18

Alottatopspin · 11/06/2026 10:14

Seems like OPs question has been more than answered but they’re still not having it!
You can disagree with the answers OP, doesn’t mean they aren’t valid points.

There is a lot I disagree with.

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SixtySomething · 11/06/2026 17:15

Anarchy99 · 10/06/2026 09:52

I think people need to stop being envious and pissed off with people who have more than them and funnel all that energy into improving their own lives

i think there are plenty of people who have a lot but take great care not to upset/offend others by flaunting it.
A good example of this kind of consideration: I once read an autobiography of the Duchess of Devonshire, the one who had been a Mitford sister. She wrote that she and her sisters were taught that they must never under any circumstances complain about anything in public, not the weather, not the food or anything else. Since they had so much more than most people, it would be bad taste to complain if something wasn't quite right. She also said that growing up wasn't too comfortable as all the sisters had to do domestic work in the house, had no pocket money , and their stately home had no heating! I think the kind of person who is careful of other people's feelings because they know they are fortunate is generally liked. What righty offends people are those who flaunt their wealth, eg ordering the most expensive dishes in a restaurant, and then leaving most of it, with the table left very messy and hard for staff to clear.

coulditbeme2323 · 11/06/2026 17:21

SixtySomething · 11/06/2026 17:15

i think there are plenty of people who have a lot but take great care not to upset/offend others by flaunting it.
A good example of this kind of consideration: I once read an autobiography of the Duchess of Devonshire, the one who had been a Mitford sister. She wrote that she and her sisters were taught that they must never under any circumstances complain about anything in public, not the weather, not the food or anything else. Since they had so much more than most people, it would be bad taste to complain if something wasn't quite right. She also said that growing up wasn't too comfortable as all the sisters had to do domestic work in the house, had no pocket money , and their stately home had no heating! I think the kind of person who is careful of other people's feelings because they know they are fortunate is generally liked. What righty offends people are those who flaunt their wealth, eg ordering the most expensive dishes in a restaurant, and then leaving most of it, with the table left very messy and hard for staff to clear.

In the real world who does that?

Who orders the most expensive dishes, doesn't eat them, and then purposely causes a mess for the waiting staff?

I have never seen anything like that in my life.

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SixtySomething · 11/06/2026 18:17

coulditbeme2323 · 11/06/2026 17:21

In the real world who does that?

Who orders the most expensive dishes, doesn't eat them, and then purposely causes a mess for the waiting staff?

I have never seen anything like that in my life.

I’ve certainly seen it.
But if you don’t like it, just substitute another example of people flaunting their wealth.

Another thing I can’t stand is women who go around with great big stones in their rings, seeming to be making the point of their (supposed) status, with what looks like a knuckleduster to me.

Again, women who push past me to get into a lift first, or stalk through with their nose in the air and no thanks if I hold a door open for them, as if they’re entitled to this.

It’s the lack of respect for others that annoys people, not the money itself.

DefiantRabbit9 · 11/06/2026 22:15

coulditbeme2323 · 10/06/2026 10:52

It would be bonkers not to look after your own property imo.

Happens more than you think we have two houses on my road and they're literally crumbling in front of our eyes because the LL's don't want to maintain them and why would they? People still pay to live there.

coulditbeme2323 · 12/06/2026 08:53

SixtySomething · 11/06/2026 18:17

I’ve certainly seen it.
But if you don’t like it, just substitute another example of people flaunting their wealth.

Another thing I can’t stand is women who go around with great big stones in their rings, seeming to be making the point of their (supposed) status, with what looks like a knuckleduster to me.

Again, women who push past me to get into a lift first, or stalk through with their nose in the air and no thanks if I hold a door open for them, as if they’re entitled to this.

It’s the lack of respect for others that annoys people, not the money itself.

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I agree with with most of what you say.

People being rude to waiting staff, people pushing past you to get to a lift, people not saying thank you when you hold the door open for them. I mean that is just plain rude.

But I can't see why you are bothered by women who have big stones in their engagement rings.It is nothing to do with you and affects you in no way. If that is the ring the couple have chosen - then good luck to them.

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coulditbeme2323 · 12/06/2026 08:53

DefiantRabbit9 · 11/06/2026 22:15

Happens more than you think we have two houses on my road and they're literally crumbling in front of our eyes because the LL's don't want to maintain them and why would they? People still pay to live there.

Why?

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Itchthescratch · 12/06/2026 09:37

DefiantRabbit9 · 11/06/2026 22:15

Happens more than you think we have two houses on my road and they're literally crumbling in front of our eyes because the LL's don't want to maintain them and why would they? People still pay to live there.

Because the landlord ultimately will have to sell the house? It's not like future buyers will overlook all this stuff and offer the same as a house that has been properly maintained. Skipping on basic maintenance is normally a false economy for homeowners whether they live there or not.

coulditbeme2323 · 12/06/2026 09:39

Itchthescratch · 12/06/2026 09:37

Because the landlord ultimately will have to sell the house? It's not like future buyers will overlook all this stuff and offer the same as a house that has been properly maintained. Skipping on basic maintenance is normally a false economy for homeowners whether they live there or not.

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coulditbeme2323 · 12/06/2026 09:40

Itchthescratch · 12/06/2026 09:37

Because the landlord ultimately will have to sell the house? It's not like future buyers will overlook all this stuff and offer the same as a house that has been properly maintained. Skipping on basic maintenance is normally a false economy for homeowners whether they live there or not.

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And if you maintain it you are also going to get a nicer quality of tenant.

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MirrorMirror1247 · 12/06/2026 09:45

As a group, landlords are a shower of bastards. My next door neighbour waited 18 months for his landlord to sort out mould in his living room. They eventually did, but only because they were putting the flat on the market and made my neighbour move out. The same landlord tried to refuse to pay me their share of repair costs for some storm damage to the roof. It's a tenement building so all owners are responsible for roof repair costs. I had to threaten them with court before they backed down.

I'm sure there are some landlords who are good, but I fear they're few and far between.

coulditbeme2323 · 12/06/2026 09:46

MirrorMirror1247 · 12/06/2026 09:45

As a group, landlords are a shower of bastards. My next door neighbour waited 18 months for his landlord to sort out mould in his living room. They eventually did, but only because they were putting the flat on the market and made my neighbour move out. The same landlord tried to refuse to pay me their share of repair costs for some storm damage to the roof. It's a tenement building so all owners are responsible for roof repair costs. I had to threaten them with court before they backed down.

I'm sure there are some landlords who are good, but I fear they're few and far between.

Why didn't your neighbor put the LL on notice before action.

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MirrorMirror1247 · 12/06/2026 09:49

coulditbeme2323 · 12/06/2026 09:46

Why didn't your neighbor put the LL on notice before action.

I don't know, but don't you think the landlord should have just sorted out the problem?

coulditbeme2323 · 12/06/2026 09:51

MirrorMirror1247 · 12/06/2026 09:49

I don't know, but don't you think the landlord should have just sorted out the problem?

Of course, but the law is so heavily favored on the side of the tenant - I can't understand why they done nothing for 18 months.

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bigboykitty · 12/06/2026 09:53

coulditbeme2323 · 12/06/2026 09:51

Of course, but the law is so heavily favored on the side of the tenant - I can't understand why they done nothing for 18 months.

This is errant nonsense!

coulditbeme2323 · 12/06/2026 09:54

bigboykitty · 12/06/2026 09:53

This is errant nonsense!

It really isn't.

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FrippEnos · 12/06/2026 10:03

coulditbeme2323 · 04/06/2026 17:04

If people don't want the product, they have alternatives.

This may be true, but if you have ever been in the position of trying to find a property to rent you will know just how hard it is to get a rental property from an alternative source.

SixtySomething · 12/06/2026 10:51

coulditbeme2323 · 12/06/2026 08:53

I agree with with most of what you say.

People being rude to waiting staff, people pushing past you to get to a lift, people not saying thank you when you hold the door open for them. I mean that is just plain rude.

But I can't see why you are bothered by women who have big stones in their engagement rings.It is nothing to do with you and affects you in no way. If that is the ring the couple have chosen - then good luck to them.

Well, that's an interesting point @coulditbeme2323 .

I have always always been surrounded by those much more 'fortunate' than myself and hence have been super aware of their behaviour, especially towards those they think 'less deserving'.

I have learned that women with great big shiny 'weapons' on their fingers have a certain expectation of how they should be treated and a certain attitude of superiority to others (other women).

Your belief that it doesn't affect me is simply incorrect. As you've made it clear you're 'fortunate', I agree it wouldn't affect you, but that's obviously different.

coulditbeme2323 · 12/06/2026 10:53

SixtySomething · 12/06/2026 10:51

Well, that's an interesting point @coulditbeme2323 .

I have always always been surrounded by those much more 'fortunate' than myself and hence have been super aware of their behaviour, especially towards those they think 'less deserving'.

I have learned that women with great big shiny 'weapons' on their fingers have a certain expectation of how they should be treated and a certain attitude of superiority to others (other women).

Your belief that it doesn't affect me is simply incorrect. As you've made it clear you're 'fortunate', I agree it wouldn't affect you, but that's obviously different.

You are confusing two things.

There is absolutely no way the size of a persons engagement ring can affect you.

The person wearing it can affect you, but the size of it makes no difference to your life whatsoever.

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