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Does anybody else dislike Pride?

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coulditbeme2323 · Today 13:12

Does anybody else dislike Pride?

We have one in our town for the second year running, and it's just really off.

Now before I get the "don't be homophobic comments" I am very much live and let live.

It's just that it can be very adult in the middle of the day.

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Lmnop22 · Today 14:12

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 13:31

But what sort of bondage? Mask? Chains? Leather? PVC? Ball gag?

Most of the above can be part of any alternative clothing. I've had kids turn up at the front door at Halloween in gimp masks.

If you don't explain it to children, they won't know.

I'd be a lot more concerned about randos on the high street burned red, sweating, arse crack on show with their man boobs out around children, than a few blokes dressed as extreme versions of the YMCA leather dude.

You do you but I don’t fancy explaining fetishism and leather bound men walking other men on leashes (as OP described) to my 6 and 2 year old 🙄

EstoyRobandoSuCasa · Today 14:12

MrsMcGarry · Today 14:06

So again, what you are saying is that people are allowed to be who they want to be, as long as they conform to your mundane version of life?

When my kids were small they wouldn't have known what a dildo was. And if they'd happened to see one and asked about it I'd have said it's just a type of toy that person likes. I'm concerned that your children do seem to know what one is?

If my eight-year-old saw someone wearing a strap-on dildo, she would recognise it as a penis, fake or otherwise. She sniggered when a recent news article about the restoration of the Cerne Abbas Giant appeared on the TV news. Kids aren’t stupid.

ManyShapesOfPasta · Today 14:12

Lomonald · Today 14:02

Womens history month has been and gone, you could have absolutely organised an event if you wanted.

Her event would have had to include males who say they are women or they'd have turned up and screamed abuse, which you'd know if you'd been paying attention

Clinicalwaste · Today 14:13

I went to pride in my younger days. It was a big, fun, very adult drug and shag fest. Totally unsuitable for children. It still is and i would not take my children to see it. It is no longer a protest and hasn't been for a very long time. Its a party to celebrate adult alternative sexuality and for that reason it isn't child friendly. No problem with it at all but it should be private ticketed parties and not a parade through the streets I have seen some really great fun but totally inappropriate for children stuff at pride parades, lets face it we all have. Trying to make it family friendly is just daft in my view.

MrsOvertonsWindow · Today 14:13

Is Surrey Pride happening this year?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2kkrxdpndo

vezesez · Today 14:13

It says something when organisers have to say this

Does anybody else dislike Pride?
shhblackbag · Today 14:14

Happyjoe · Today 14:03

To be honest I have never thought of Pride as a children's day out.

Quite. Pride is one day a year. Surely children don't have to be included in absolutely everything.

And it's easy enough to avoid as an adult if that's what you want.

TalkingintheDark · Today 14:14

At least eight convictions on CSA related charges of Pride officials by now.

All male, of course.

It was wrong when, in the past, people demonised all gay men as paedophiles.

It’s wrong now to elevate any group of men to sacred caste status where they’re not judged by the same standards as other men and are exempt from basic safeguarding principles.

We shouldn’t ignore it when men perform their fetish in public, in front of children. Some of those men may be doing it because they’re ignorant and unthinking, and unaware of the impact on children; some of them will undoubtedly be doing it very deliberately.

Some people are genuinely naive and think well yes maybe it’s a bit much but it’s only one day a year, they’re so marginalised, yadda yadda. But it’s about the breaking down of normal boundaries, boundaries that help keep children safe. Predators happily exploit that kind of naivety.

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Hotmess101 · Today 14:14

Anyahyacinth · Today 14:00

That really doesnt relate to Pride...its just a rant

The whole point of Pride is the rainbow ..the metaphor being difference.

The Prides I've been to there are sections and groups..no monolith ..a rainbow signified by those letters

Word salad anyone?

Motomum23 · Today 14:15

I dont like pride festivals either OP. Accidently took my primary age kids through town last year and they were selling cock shaped donuts covered in white chocolate sauce. It was gross im all for people being proud of being gay but I dont expect to see sexual things/acts/etc in the middle of the high street regardless of their sexual orientation.

coulditbeme2323 · Today 14:15

Motomum23 · Today 14:15

I dont like pride festivals either OP. Accidently took my primary age kids through town last year and they were selling cock shaped donuts covered in white chocolate sauce. It was gross im all for people being proud of being gay but I dont expect to see sexual things/acts/etc in the middle of the high street regardless of their sexual orientation.

Quite

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moderate · Today 14:15

MrsMcGarry · Today 14:01

So basically other people are allowed to live their lives how they want, as long as they conform to your ideas of what is appropriate for children to see.

No: it’s as long as they conform to society’s agreed ideas. Hence this conversation. Sorry you don’t like the free exchange of ideas. Welcome to democracy.

MrsMcGarry · Today 14:15

coulditbeme2323 · Today 14:08

Not as concerned as I am for your children!

Mine have grown into fantastic and successful young adults who appreciate diversity and don't judge other people for who they are, whilst also both being in committed heterosexual relationships themselves thanks.

My daughter ran a campaign at her sixth form college to persuade others to stop the use to the term "gay" as an insult, and my son was the first person that one of his friends came out to as non binary and supported them through that transition. I'm really proud of the people they've turned into and proud that I played a large role in their development as non-judgemental people

coulditbeme2323 · Today 14:16

MrsMcGarry · Today 14:15

Mine have grown into fantastic and successful young adults who appreciate diversity and don't judge other people for who they are, whilst also both being in committed heterosexual relationships themselves thanks.

My daughter ran a campaign at her sixth form college to persuade others to stop the use to the term "gay" as an insult, and my son was the first person that one of his friends came out to as non binary and supported them through that transition. I'm really proud of the people they've turned into and proud that I played a large role in their development as non-judgemental people

Do they judge paedos?

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Anyahyacinth · Today 14:16

moderate · Today 14:09

It absolutely does relate to Pride. Why not read up about it rather than just pontificating?

Nope it doesn't because anyone can go ...it's open for people to walk in groups / sections / communities. So if you feel it isn’t representative then you can change that...its a rainbow not a position statement

MightyDandelionEsq · Today 14:16

It was great when it was about ‘love who you love’ and marching for rights. When it was actually about gay people.

I fail to see how the bondage gear, the furries and the ones who act like dogs with gags in their mouth fit into it. I would wager that they’re most likely straight and latching on as we’ve seen with the many made up new sexualities (I said what I said, most of them are bollocks and make a mockery of homosexual rights that have been won).

It amazes/horrifies me that people take young children to these parades now when sexual fetish gear is on open display. I’m waging that a lot of gay people probably hate being associated with the fetish side, I know quite a few who hate it.

I think the fetish side should have their own parade and it not be in public places where kids can see it. In fact - I don’t want to see it either.

ClaudiaWankleman · Today 14:17

PercyPigsAreOverRated · Today 13:44

That's what my adult DC told me it was for. I haven't verified it and can't remember what it looks like to check!

My DC were disgusted by it BTW.

Can you provide a picture of the flag being flown? If it was so controversial someone would have taken a picture of it, or it would be in the background of someone's picture or video or something. In all likelihood it would have attracted some online attention.

If you can't I am going to suggest you might not be telling the truth.

Anyahyacinth · Today 14:17

coulditbeme2323 · Today 14:16

Do they judge paedos?

What is your basis for relating Pride to paedophiles?

Hotmess101 · Today 14:18

vezesez · Today 14:13

It says something when organisers have to say this

Oh wow well done Rhondda!! None of my gay friends feel any ‘pride’ in being lumped with pervs with their dicks out and they wouldn’t thank the brainless posters on here trying to assure us that kids in gimp masks playing with ‘puppies’ with visible erections is all par for the course in the gay world. It’s disgusting and you are all perv enablers.

coulditbeme2323 · Today 14:18

Anyahyacinth · Today 14:17

What is your basis for relating Pride to paedophiles?

There is now the term minor attracted.

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AmIReallyTheGrownup · Today 14:19

I am ambivalent towards Pride because it’s such a low effort DEI.

No real outlay or changes to business operations beyond perhaps offering to fund gender transition surgery for a minority of a minority of staff. You get a big shiny month to rebrand your website and your foyer. Again, minimal outlay.

Vs supporting parents, or older employees, or differently abled people to work, because that would require adjustments to working patterns.

Anyahyacinth · Today 14:19

MightyDandelionEsq · Today 14:16

It was great when it was about ‘love who you love’ and marching for rights. When it was actually about gay people.

I fail to see how the bondage gear, the furries and the ones who act like dogs with gags in their mouth fit into it. I would wager that they’re most likely straight and latching on as we’ve seen with the many made up new sexualities (I said what I said, most of them are bollocks and make a mockery of homosexual rights that have been won).

It amazes/horrifies me that people take young children to these parades now when sexual fetish gear is on open display. I’m waging that a lot of gay people probably hate being associated with the fetish side, I know quite a few who hate it.

I think the fetish side should have their own parade and it not be in public places where kids can see it. In fact - I don’t want to see it either.

Then don't go or don't look.

I'm unclear on what basis you think you have a right to say how people dress?

Ilovelurchers · Today 14:19

I think it's important to differentiate between the concept of Pride Month, and specific interpretations of it.

The concept of Pride Month is very important, and it's celebrated in lots of different ways, most of them having nothing to do with men in bondage gear.

It's fair enough to say you are uncomfortable with how someone individuals dress for some specific Pride events. That's totally different from saying you disapprove of Pride.

Please don't conflate the two. That's unfair on the many of us who celebrate Pride in completely acceptable ways. I, for example, am organising a craft workshop in my school. Nobody will be in bondage gear!

notnorman · Today 14:20

The annual Men in bondage wear day out.
gross

coulditbeme2323 · Today 14:20

Ilovelurchers · Today 14:19

I think it's important to differentiate between the concept of Pride Month, and specific interpretations of it.

The concept of Pride Month is very important, and it's celebrated in lots of different ways, most of them having nothing to do with men in bondage gear.

It's fair enough to say you are uncomfortable with how someone individuals dress for some specific Pride events. That's totally different from saying you disapprove of Pride.

Please don't conflate the two. That's unfair on the many of us who celebrate Pride in completely acceptable ways. I, for example, am organising a craft workshop in my school. Nobody will be in bondage gear!

Perhaps you missed this post of mine.

Let me be clear, for those that are getting their knickers in a twist.
Being gay fine.
Pride events fine.
Marching with a rainbow flag and your "love is love" poster also fine.
In bondage gear being walked on a lead at 2pm on a town center not fine.
It's hard to see how anybody sensible would disagree with that.

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