Does anybody else dislike Pride?

[coulditbeme2323]

Does anybody else dislike Pride?

We have one in our town for the second year running, and it's just really off.

Now before I get the "don't be homophobic comments" I am very much live and let live.

It's just that it can be very adult in the middle of the day.

I’m sorry he went through that. Truly.

But do you think the fetishistic nature of Pride now is helping that? Associating all gay people with unfiltered sexual depravity? Do you think the many random sexualities being added like polygamy or asexuality almost make a mockery of how true homosexuality is sentenced to death in many foreign countries?

My heart goes out to your son, truly it does. However I really think the modern pride and movement does more of a disservice to homosexuals than benefit. I for example wouldn’t want my kids near it and it now turns my stomach. I’d feel EXACTLY the same if it was straight people acting like it which let’s be honest, most attendees are virtue signaling straights or straights with extra steps that call themselves some made up sexuality.

What pattern? People who think differently about things than you do? Why do you think that makes you so uneasy?

It’s a shame when a vocal group takes over events. A group of nurses and doctors from my NHS trust regularly have a float at London Pride. It is a wholesome event for them, they are fully clothed! And they are representing inclusivity in the NHS. Groups like this will increasingly be put off Pride if it is taken over by a more ‘racy’ element. And as is stated here, if lesbian people are feeling excluded, then what is the point of this event?

I am heterosexual, and my kids are. They have now left school but they said they were constant ‘gay’ slurs still going on between boys. I found that very disappointing. We are not fully inclusive yet, which makes it more disappointing that Pride has gone this way.

Yes, I’m well aware of that. I was an adult when the law was finally changed.

And what does 'veeeeery' mean...?
😂😆

I literally addressed your points and now you're just replying in bad faith.

You're acting as though legal equality is the only measure of equality when I explicitly raised social issues, hate crime and prejudice as reasons people still support Pride. "yeah but legally, legally though... legally?"

Exactly this!

If you'd read any of my other posts you'll see I am in favour of safeguarding.

I was just pointing out that when multiple threads are picking up on various lifestyles / cultures / minorities in general, given the current zeitgeist it feels alot less live and let live than it used to. I can see the potential for certain groups having hard won rights taken away due to skewed politicisation of actions of a proportionally few. And in the case of Reform, that will end up including women eventually.....

And bringing up "demonic" to describe people / events shows an agenda that is very dangerous.

We seem to have lost perspective and the middle ground on too many subjects in favour of unchecked TikTok nonsense.

Yanbu.
I can't stand it.
I know gay people who can't stand it either.
This is nothing to do with homophobia-not for me, anyway.
When they were marching the other week in my town, it was not possible to cross the other side of the street to get to the shops.
I cut across while they were pausing. I don't give a damn.
It makes me seethe.
Why the heck do people get a parade for their sexual it?

I also can't stand virtue-signalling businesses who have the flag up-especially banks.
Wankers.

It's bullshit and it needs to stop.

Because believe me whereas it had a point in the past, it no longer does.

"Because believe me whereas it had a point in the past, it no longer does"

Not to you maybe ... assume you havent been verbally abused holding your partner's hand recently?

It’s not been taken over by racy elements though.

In actual fact Pride has become more and more full of ‘normal’ people.

In the 1990s it would have been highly unusual for a group of people officially representing the NHS to participate in a Pride event. Whereas a man in skinhead get up would have been much more common.

You’re constructing your own history.

Clearly we are reaching a tipping point now with people feeling so emboldened in their bigotry. It’s very worrying and all the more reason why pride should and must exist.

I'm sorry about that but I really don't see having a parade stops that happening.
I genuinely don't.

I have no agenda here and am not deliberately ‘constructing’ anything at all. I want Pride to represent gay people and feel inclusive. I am just going on what people are saying here. If it’s ‘normal’ and accessible now, then that’s great.

But your starting point isn’t factual so your conclusion will always be incorrect.

I am a bit lost as to what I have done. Anyway, I feel my intentions have been misconstrued so I shall leave it there.

It's really fun, I've enjoyed it in the past. Wouldn't take me 8 year old though.

@MistressoftheDarkSide
We seem to have lost perspective and the middle ground

This is an interesting point. I think there’s a different middle ground that we’ve lost sight of.

For a very long time, the middle ground has been a sort of soft-identitarian politeness, that seems to centre around strong principles that get shaded to make sure no virtuous group is too upset.

eg Of course we oppose criminalizing political speech, until it’s Farage and he might be read as being mean to minorities. Public bondage gear is fine, becuase the gays like it. Of course cutting school is bad an home-schooling suspect, except when it’s travellers, then it’s bad form to mention it. Naturally we oppose carried knives other than Sikh knives. Naturally we abhor misogyny but not if it’s suggested the misogynists are foreign, then we must all not notice. Women’s rights are great, save when if it means saying no to a particular group of men. Etc etc etc.

There is another middle ground that at least attempts to be much more principled and neutral. What are our principles? What’s permitted and not? Then if it’s good it’s good for everyone, and if it’s not then it’s not for anyone, and we navigate different claims by what the facts support.

I think that’s a much healthier middle ground in the long term.

Then don't go?

Exactly. It’s so helpful for many that do go.

Only at Pride Parades by Trannies and Furries 😆

It absolutely does have a point as has been explained several times.

Come on now. They also have a busy schedule of raping women, taking photos of dead women to share with their mates, and going round to women's houses to tell them off for posting about women's rights on social media.

Don’t forget kicking white guys in the face, until they're in a pool of blood, at demonstrations against the dying white boy being cuffed.

You don’t have to play the victim. You posted and I responded saying you were wrong. As it turns out, you don’t have any experience and are repeating some inaccuracies that were posted elsewhere in the thread.