Does anybody else dislike Pride?

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Does anybody else dislike Pride?

We have one in our town for the second year running, and it's just really off.

Now before I get the "don't be homophobic comments" I am very much live and let live.

It's just that it can be very adult in the middle of the day.

But in response to a comment suggesting that there is something suspicious about threads discussing education, safeguarding, public safety etc, all in relation to current events, @Whatwerewetalkingabout appeared to agree that it was suspicious and started talking about AI bots and propaganda as if to imply these are not organic conversations led by normal people on a parenting forum.

Maybe pp could clarify why she thinks it’s more likely that bots and propaganda are driving these conversations rather than public feelings about actual events?

Agree.
The heterosexual families who take their children to these marches get on my wick.
They just follow anything because it's trendy without thinking of what it is they're actually supporting.
Supporting men who are rapists and have intact genitalia being sent to women's prisons because of 'be kind'.

They do not stop as they wave their stupid flags about to actually think about the consequences of self-ID are.
Of the consequences of treating a man as a woman are.
I do not even like the term trans women as it's got 'woman' in it which is untrue.
I find myself tutting at these families. Or to be more specific the parents. Obviously the children are blameless.

I honestly have no problem with homosexuality.

I do, however, very much do have an issue with the notion that a man can 'become' a woman.
Oh yes.

I think you've hit the nail on the head here.

It's very concerning.

I am so pleased most people agree with me, the world has not gone mad!

But at least they are trying to address an issue that we all know is an issue, despite the minimising of it by posters on here. I don't think they are the only organisers who publish these notices either.

Honestly don’t see how it affects you. Just avoid the town centre that one day if you can’t stand the sight of gay people.

And the Guardianistas can’t understand why Reform are on the rise. Did they not learn maths at school?

Quite

Tell me you haven't read the thread without telling me you haven't read the thread.

Ahh - it's a bit more complex than that.

Now "not liking penises" is kind of an entry level requirement to become a lesbian. However if a biological male with an intact penis , self identifies as a "woman" but is still attracted to biological females then it would be completely transphobic for any lesbian to refuse to have sex with said trans woman (biological male with penis).

However any male identifying as a man with a penis, especially if white and heterosexual is guilty of misogyny simply by existing.

Most people disagree with you.

You're homophobic. I assume you're also anti trans and vote Reform.

It's just the same old bigot playbook. Nothing new.

Brittish legion and Poppy Scotland launch their Poppy Appeals in October leading up to rememberence Sunday and whatever day the 11th lands where we have 2 national silences parades and laying of wreaths all over the countries of the UK , maybe you would prefer a party with balloons bells and whistles! Just incase someone misses it !

Most people do agree.

No I am not homophobic.

Anti trans? I mean do what you want, but yes I don't want blokes in a dress using the same changing rooms as my daughters. Most sane people don't.

When Reform get into power, instead of being completely mystified, maybe have a think about the difference between your little bubble and the real world.

I highly doubt they will get into power.

This is it, exactly. Social media is the ultimate propaganda tool and gathers information in real time. We are encouraged to respond to it and the quickest way to shift opinion and perspective is by rage bait. And it all drives revenue. Marketing is a science, capitalism thrives on persuading us to hand over cash regardless of means. It depends on "problem solving" and when basic problems are "solved" and revenue drops off, more problems are required, and often these new problems aren't necessarily things that would enter someone's head without being "nudged" into it. The terms "disaster capitalism" and "surveillance capitalism" exist for a reason. The reach and speed of information is far beyond anything we have experienced before. Throw in AI and suddenly our grasp on the very fabric of reality is seriously under threat.

I watched this thread until I felt I had something to contribute. I don't "dislike Pride", nor do I "dislike" anything that brings people together, peacefully highlights a cause, brings joy into the world, and fosters community.

Safeguarding and the protection and guidance of our future generations is a collective responsibility, as is being aware of the "demonisation" of anyone simply due to discomfort or "dislike", and addressing it in a logical manner.

The world we live in has changed beyond recognition in the last 30 years, at a speed never seen before. Those of us old enough to have grown up essentially "before internet" aren't just Luddites with outmoded ideas - we are feminists, environmentalists, supporters of minorities and against oppression and many fought for and laid good groundwork for what we believed would be a more equitable society. I do not recognise, nor want to engage in the world we now live in because at the twitch of an algorithm, one can be painted as part of the problem.

Whether things are the law of unintended consequence, or being engineered by design, for whatever capitalistic leverage dressed up in ever more convoluted ideology that serves no-one other than those who wish ultimately to preserve their wealth and power I can't comment on, because it is so easy to be sucked into conspiracy theory territory. However, divide and rule, and bread and circuses have valid historical basis. And if we can't see that despite all our education and resources, then what is it all for in the end?

I find it a bit odd in the modern context. Homosexuality was decriminalised decades ago. I have several gay friends who have no interest in Pride. They just live their lives like the rest of us and the sex of their spouse is irrelevant. They are people with talents, skills and interests like anyone else. I’d far rather celebrate people’s achievements than celebrate them for who they are attracted to.

Also: if you don’t understand how homophobic trans ideology is, you’re being wilfully obtuse at this point.

I highly doubted Brexit would happen and Trump would become president.

I don't live in a bubble fortunately. I work with people who span upper middle class down to what sociologists would describe at the underclass. That includes people from at least 10 different countries.

The only individuals who share those wider perspectives are either very working class white Americans or from families steeped in racism and bigotry.

We only have to look back at the laughing stock the National Front and the British National Party were (Nick Griffin on Question Time) to see that although there is some populist support for fascism that ultimately, very few want a fascist UK government.

Not helped by the fact that even those Reform members who WERE elected to local government are either dropping out again, fast, or who haven't got a clue what they're doing.

Even when they DO vote against events such as Pride, local communities come in and make up the financial difference (Durham Pride). Because ultimately, the majority of Brits aren't bigots.

Trump was nailed on.

To (mis) quote Father Ted, it's not the gays they're "after " , it's the trans. 🙄😁

Has it occurred to you that this kind of reason-free, irrelevant issue-bundling attack is a huge reason for the rise of the very things you claim to oppose? And increasingly looks to many people like an exercise in narcissistic self congratulation rather than any kind of true social conscience and desire to effect change?

I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at with that assortment of pictures?

The one of two men kissing is a policeman who proposed to his boyfriend during a Pride event.

Interesting topic.

Pride parades and events do seem to have been hijacked by fetish & bondage lovers, and all the cool kids.

I think your bog standard gay or lesbian person avoids them now.

Let's not get 'not liking seeing barely dressed men with dog collars and leads at 11.30 in the morning ' confused with any other bigotry. It's perfectly reasonable to not want your kids to see that whilst out shopping.