Does anybody else dislike Pride?

[coulditbeme2323]

Does anybody else dislike Pride?

We have one in our town for the second year running, and it's just really off.

Now before I get the "don't be homophobic comments" I am very much live and let live.

It's just that it can be very adult in the middle of the day.

Now you're showing your true colours ...usually comes out on these kinds of posts eventually.

Lol, and I have lived in London 3 times, most recently last year.
I just have lived in many other areas of the UK. London isn't the centre of the universe!! So have you been to pride or not? To actually take part/watch?

Bondage gear isn't 'skimpy' clothes, is it? It's fetish wear. Ball-gags, pup costumes, etc. Would you take children to Folsom Street Fair, or do you think that there are some things that are inappropriate for public viewing?

It's a celebration of a type of toxic masculinity and a dominance display. There's also the titillation effect of being naked/wearing fetish gear in public. It's high time it's called out for what it is. The Emperor's clothing is now a bdsm outfit sprinkled with extreme porn and adorned with furry things (for the kiddies, makes 'em laugh dontya know 😉).

Our Reform council have cancelled it 'cos money.

This is what you wrote

“Happyjoe · Today 14:08
That's your issue. Don't like it, don't go.
You don't just stumble across pride events. They have huge bloody floats with people on them, full of colour, noise and really loud music. To be close enough to see someone with a dildo means that you've made a decision to stay and stay close to watch.
If you're that upset by it, leave the first inkling pride is on."

I responded to you about my experience and that some people can’t avoid it in London.

And you responded

"I've never seen London no, but unlike a lot of Londoners I've never thought that London was the only important place in the country and I don't measure everything against London."

Is there a comprehension issue?

I strongly objected to a pro-life "exhibition" in my town centre on a Saturday afternoon that featured graphic imagery on 10 x 8 posters, and engaged one of the older female campaigners in debate. She claimed their organisation existed to help women traumatised by abortion (yep, she really saud that). No mention of religion until her parting shot which was "Why do you hate God so much?" I did have the last word, and the word hypocrite was used....

Yeah, those shouldn't be allowed.

To some people, nothing is inappropriate for public viewing. They'd be happy with nude doggie fashion in Tescos if they thought it'd make them part of the 'right crowd' 🙄 anything less is positively Mary Whitehouse dahling.

Is there a comprehension issue?
Yes. Yours.

Can you provide a picture of the flag on sale or something?

If there are paedophile flags actually being sold at Pride it would be important to be able to substantiate that. Otherwise the most logical thing to do is to assume you are lying. You couldn't and wouldn't be the only person to notice something as abhorrent as that and there would be evidence.

Without a time machine to go back to last year no.

I think it would be better if they split it into two events, one family friendly parade outdoors in the daytime and an indoor evening one for the more adult stuff that was strictly for 18 and over.

Try this?
https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/the-progress-pride-flag-adds-representation-for-transgender-and-people-of-color-idUSL1N37S2DT/

@ClaudiaWankleman

Do explain?

You said that

“Don't like it, don't go.
You don't just stumble across pride events. They have huge bloody floats with people on them, full of colour, noise and really loud music. To be close enough to see someone with a dildo means that you've made a decision to stay and stay close to watch.
If you're that upset by it, leave the first inkling pride is on."

I said “some people live on the route and others have to work in the area”

You said “Pride is half an hour then everyone goes to a field or ticketed event"

I said “this was blatantly untrue and in London the first event is all day and night, 1.5 million people who spill into every part of central London. And there is a second day of it for TQ+, same story. Fetish gear everywhere” Yes I’ve been there because I live and work there.

You said ""I've never seen London no, but unlike a lot of Londoners I've never thought that London was the only important place in the country and I don't measure everything against London."

The comprehension issue is all yours mate.

Just as a side, I was hoping someone would mention Whitehouse! I didn't coz made me feel old 😄

That's a sensible approach, and thinking back to local Pride events that's pretty much how it used to be. Sparkly all inclusive fun in the day time, then general dispersal to adult venues in the evening in our gay quarter. The fetish end of it was barely visible, but I am going back about 15 years.

Again, with the comprehension issue on your behalf, or are you just hell bent on trying to point score? Jury is out.

You didn't mention London on our run of conversation until later To which I said I'd never been.. but did show a route, so could be avoided. I had been talking about many many other pride festivals, and even London has a set route. Had you mentioned London at the start and about many people walking around/on the tube, I would've probably conceded as I had not seen it.

Mind you, I can point out that I have lived in 3 areas of London and not seen anything to do with Pride at all in all the years I have lived there. Quite easy to avoid then isn't it? I managed to not happen across anyone with a dildo.

I just don’t see where ‘pride’ comes into it. Does anyone ever say they’re ‘proud’ to be heterosexual? So why should anyone be proud to be gay/bi/trans, whatever. They just ARE.

You can just say you made it up.

Aye, she was a legend that woman 😊

Because they spent many a year labelled bad people and of course, it was illegal. People were put in prison for being gay.

I didn't see any post about organisers being nonces.
There have been several posts about this. Surprising that you, with your keen observance of reading things carefully, missed these posts highlighting the perversion literally running these events.

As I said, if you actually read anything properly, then you'd not leap to incorrect conclusions. Massive red flag, lol.

Is there a comprehension issue?
Yes. Yours.

You obviously have too much time on your hands and would be wise to spend some of it growing up. I find puerile people tedious in the extreme so will no longer engage in this pointless argument with a intransigent stranger I'm glad I don't know IRL. Have a pleasant evening.

Ha ha, attack is the best form of defence eh?
Have a lovely eve too old duck.

Well i didn't make it up. There was a stall selling loads of different flags . Some I recognised, some i didnt. I asked my (adult) DC what they all were. They told me once of them was the MAP flag. I didn't take a photo. I don't know why I'd need a photo of a load of flags.

I don't care if you don't believe me. That's what happened. And whilst my DC hate pride month, we'll probably go to the festival again this year. Because there's usually some decent music. If they were still children I wouldn't go anywhere near it. Because it's not appropriate for children.

I’m not sure it’s actually illegal to be a paedophile rights club.

I’m not making any claim about whether there was such a club at Pride. No idea.

But Surrey police were uncomfortably close to Stephen Ireland and the chief constable was a personal supporter of him, as well as of course the institutional alignment of police to Pride events. That chief constable is now head of the police chiefs council.

This might explain any police reluctance to look too closely.

This sort of thing is why I don’t think police should align themselves with any group or cause.