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Does anybody else dislike Pride?

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coulditbeme2323 · Today 13:12

Does anybody else dislike Pride?

We have one in our town for the second year running, and it's just really off.

Now before I get the "don't be homophobic comments" I am very much live and let live.

It's just that it can be very adult in the middle of the day.

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Happyjoe · Today 15:33

vezesez · Today 15:29

You clearly have never seen Pride Days (plural) in central London.

You have some nerve asking me if I’ve ever been to one.

I've never seen London no, but unlike a lot of Londoners I've never thought that London was the only important place in the country and I don't measure everything against London.
I have covered pride events for newspapers though in other parts of the country. How I described them is what happened in the ones I went to.
Such as Brighton, fairly short journey, ending on the beach. Then onto a field which was a ticketed event to see live music.

And.... I will say, even over 20 years ago I've seen pride festival goers in bondage and hairy arse cracks.

Happyjoe · Today 15:34

coulditbeme2323 · Today 15:28

Probably too busy handcuffing dying white men.

Well yes, let's hope those people are removed from the force.

vezesez · Today 15:36

Happyjoe · Today 15:33

I've never seen London no, but unlike a lot of Londoners I've never thought that London was the only important place in the country and I don't measure everything against London.
I have covered pride events for newspapers though in other parts of the country. How I described them is what happened in the ones I went to.
Such as Brighton, fairly short journey, ending on the beach. Then onto a field which was a ticketed event to see live music.

And.... I will say, even over 20 years ago I've seen pride festival goers in bondage and hairy arse cracks.

Edited

You said 'everyone can avoid it' didn’t you?

I was responding to your inaccurate assumptions which led you tom post misinformation.

But turn it round to slag off Londoners why don’t you.

LakieLady · Today 15:36

Happyjoe · Today 15:18

Pride events tend to be on floats, pass by. What, half an hours worth? Then end up in a field or similar to watch bands play or whatever.

If someone cannot work around that, one day a year then there's no hope!!

Have you ever seen a pride event?

Edited

It seems reasonable to me.

I have friends who live in a town where they have a massive annual firework event that goes on from mid-afternoon till gone midnight and includes several noisy processions that pass their house. The roads in and out are closed from around 4 or 5pm until midnight.

It feaks their kids and dog out, so they go and spend the night with family a few miles away. I'd say that's a lot more disruptive than one procession that's done and dusted in a couple of hours.

vezesez · Today 15:37

LakieLady · Today 15:36

It seems reasonable to me.

I have friends who live in a town where they have a massive annual firework event that goes on from mid-afternoon till gone midnight and includes several noisy processions that pass their house. The roads in and out are closed from around 4 or 5pm until midnight.

It feaks their kids and dog out, so they go and spend the night with family a few miles away. I'd say that's a lot more disruptive than one procession that's done and dusted in a couple of hours.

Do they watch fireworks in fetish gear?

Owlsintheforest · Today 15:41

It’s scary the number of poster that think it’s acceptable for men to be parading around in skimpy sexual bondage gear in front of children?! WTAF! It’s SICK!

CapstanFullStrength · Today 15:44

@MrsMcGarry "So again, what you are saying is that people are allowed to be who they want to be, as long as they conform to your mundane version of life?"

This take interests me because I would posit that it is the most mundane and dull of personality who dress up in fetish gear to celebrate themselves in public- I just know that that amount of navel gazing, attention seeking and lack of consideration for others constitutes a really boring person

vezesez · Today 15:44

Happyjoe · Today 15:33

I've never seen London no, but unlike a lot of Londoners I've never thought that London was the only important place in the country and I don't measure everything against London.
I have covered pride events for newspapers though in other parts of the country. How I described them is what happened in the ones I went to.
Such as Brighton, fairly short journey, ending on the beach. Then onto a field which was a ticketed event to see live music.

And.... I will say, even over 20 years ago I've seen pride festival goers in bondage and hairy arse cracks.

Edited

This is what you wrote

“Happyjoe · Today 14:08
That's your issue. Don't like it, don't go.
You don't just stumble across pride events. They have huge bloody floats with people on them, full of colour, noise and really loud music. To be close enough to see someone with a dildo means that you've made a decision to stay and stay close to watch.
If you're that upset by it, leave the first inkling pride is on."

I responded to you about my experience and that some people can’t avoid it in London.

And you responded

"I've never seen London no, but unlike a lot of Londoners I've never thought that London was the only important place in the country and I don't measure everything against London."

Is there a comprehension issue?

vezesez · Today 15:48

TalkingintheDark · Today 14:14

At least eight convictions on CSA related charges of Pride officials by now.

All male, of course.

It was wrong when, in the past, people demonised all gay men as paedophiles.

It’s wrong now to elevate any group of men to sacred caste status where they’re not judged by the same standards as other men and are exempt from basic safeguarding principles.

We shouldn’t ignore it when men perform their fetish in public, in front of children. Some of those men may be doing it because they’re ignorant and unthinking, and unaware of the impact on children; some of them will undoubtedly be doing it very deliberately.

Some people are genuinely naive and think well yes maybe it’s a bit much but it’s only one day a year, they’re so marginalised, yadda yadda. But it’s about the breaking down of normal boundaries, boundaries that help keep children safe. Predators happily exploit that kind of naivety.

https://x.com/lozbian40/status/2061773305321775355

This

RunsABit · Today 15:48

Happyjoe · Today 15:31

Well, perhaps if you'd actually read my posts rather than make stuff up that I didn't write or misunderstood then perhaps you'd not have such an issue.

Having quoted you verbatim and read all of your contentious spoutings, please tell me exactly what I have made up or misunderstood.

By the way Joe, your patronising tone is not helping you gain ground with the 'irate mums', but it is helping us all to see exactly the type of person (man?) you are, and watching you paint yourself into a corner is certainly entertaining.

ClaudiaWankleman · Today 15:48

PercyPigsAreOverRated · Today 15:30

I didnt say a paedophile group attended Confused I said there was a stall flying that particular flag. They had loads of flags hanging up for sale.

Who flies or buys a paedophile flag if not a paedophile group?

Which Pride event was it? It's hardly outing information.

ThatCyanCat · Today 15:50

What's the paedophile flag? I don't want to Google.

Happyjoe · Today 15:52

LakieLady · Today 15:36

It seems reasonable to me.

I have friends who live in a town where they have a massive annual firework event that goes on from mid-afternoon till gone midnight and includes several noisy processions that pass their house. The roads in and out are closed from around 4 or 5pm until midnight.

It feaks their kids and dog out, so they go and spend the night with family a few miles away. I'd say that's a lot more disruptive than one procession that's done and dusted in a couple of hours.

I replied because people wanted to avoid seeing dildos (reasonably I may add!).
Not all about fireworks at an event or the road closures.

I am from Sussex originally, which has a huge bonfire night in Lewis. Road closures, noise. Just no dildos, I presume people don't mind so much!

Happyjoe · Today 15:53

RunsABit · Today 15:48

Having quoted you verbatim and read all of your contentious spoutings, please tell me exactly what I have made up or misunderstood.

By the way Joe, your patronising tone is not helping you gain ground with the 'irate mums', but it is helping us all to see exactly the type of person (man?) you are, and watching you paint yourself into a corner is certainly entertaining.

No, I am indeed a woman.
Not painted myself in a corner at all. Am fine thanks!

And if you seriously think that it's the responsibility of others to police how supposed adults dress and behave in public, you're not just naive, you're complicit. Funding is being pulled from these events not because of homophobia but because local authorities are taking their safeguarding role seriously and not spaffing public money on a look-at-me glitter party for people who think men can become women or blue hair makes them special. Not to mention as others have already said, the notable numbers of Pride organisers who have been convicted of paedophilia. An earlier poster called you a massive red flag and I'm beginning to agree.

I never passed comment on paedophilia, or the flag until just now, when said why were the police not informed. I didn't see any post about organisers being nonces. But even if I had, not replying does not make me complicit, it means I have either not seen or didn't want to reply to everything here on MN. My whole message in my posts is about parents parenting, not much to do with pride itself, other than if people don't like it and stop going or taking part, it will stop happening. Fair conclusion.
I also am not complicit on how people behave in public, that's a leap of your imagination.

Funding is being pulled for many reasons, and as to date I think reform (what a shock) councils are the one who have pulled funding, saying the money was going elsewhere for other public services, I don't recall hearing about it being about safeguarding, please please post some links if I have that wrong.

As I said, if you actually read anything properly, then you'd not leap to incorrect conclusions. Massive red flag, lol.

CarbootJunction · Today 15:57

I with you, OP. In my town, they push Pride a bit more every year. There is money to be made, and, by god, someone is raking it in.
I have several gay male friends, and they turn their noses up at such shenanigans. Keep it classy.

coulditbeme2323 · Today 15:58

CarbootJunction · Today 15:57

I with you, OP. In my town, they push Pride a bit more every year. There is money to be made, and, by god, someone is raking it in.
I have several gay male friends, and they turn their noses up at such shenanigans. Keep it classy.

It is becoming demonic! It's the only word for it.

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StormInaDcup99 · Today 16:00

EnterQueene · Today 13:49

Pride is a wonderful celebration, but some people just don't like to see joy, I guess.

That is not what the OP is saying though

Currently approx 70pc of people seem to agree with her (obviously that figure may change)

PercyPigsAreOverRated · Today 16:00

ClaudiaWankleman · Today 15:48

Who flies or buys a paedophile flag if not a paedophile group?

Which Pride event was it? It's hardly outing information.

A merch stand selling pride merch flies and sells all kinds of flags. I can't imagine the people running the stall fell into every group, yet had tons of flags. I mean they can't have been gay men, and lesbians, and trans, and bisexual, and "intersex"/DSD, etc etc. Yet they had all those flags and more.

WilfredsPies · Today 16:01

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 13:32

You sound determined to be offended and turn something joyful into perversion.

I can only think that the recent heat has boggled your critical thinking skills.

Lots of people parading down the street proclaiming that they’re proud to be who they are, and that they have nothing to be ashamed of, and that they won’t stand for being bullied or harassed or discriminated against because of their sexuality? Yes, that could be described as a joyful thing, if you conveniently ignore the lesbians being excluded because they don’t want to have sex with men.

But a bunch of grotty, sweaty men dressed up in leather/pvc/furry costumes/dog leads etc, at an event which is regularly billed as ‘family friendly’ is not fucking joyful. It’s normalising kinks and fetishes to children, and exposing them to things they shouldn’t be seeing until they’re much, much older. Would you get your sex toys out and display them on your front door step so all the neighbourhood children could get a good look and ask their parents questions? Of course you wouldn’t. So why the fuck would it be an acceptable thing to do simply because someone has a rainbow flag round their shoulders and they’re in the high street? How the fuck is that ‘Joyful’?

Ablushingcrow · Today 16:01

I hate it. Taken over mostly by perverted narcissistists.

ClaudiaWankleman · Today 16:02

PercyPigsAreOverRated · Today 16:00

A merch stand selling pride merch flies and sells all kinds of flags. I can't imagine the people running the stall fell into every group, yet had tons of flags. I mean they can't have been gay men, and lesbians, and trans, and bisexual, and "intersex"/DSD, etc etc. Yet they had all those flags and more.

But the presence of the flag indicates that, at that Pride event, people carrying that flag would be welcome. Which event was it? Tell us - for the children's sake.

Or can we now accept it is all made up?

Happyjoe · Today 16:03

CarbootJunction · Today 15:57

I with you, OP. In my town, they push Pride a bit more every year. There is money to be made, and, by god, someone is raking it in.
I have several gay male friends, and they turn their noses up at such shenanigans. Keep it classy.

My bestie is gay and she doesn't want Pride and doesn't go. Because she said, quite rightly, there should've been no need for it in this day and age. Can't help but agree with her.

PercyPigsAreOverRated · Today 16:04

ClaudiaWankleman · Today 16:02

But the presence of the flag indicates that, at that Pride event, people carrying that flag would be welcome. Which event was it? Tell us - for the children's sake.

Or can we now accept it is all made up?

That was the whole fucking point. Somewhere selling that flag implies its acceptable. Yet some fuckwits thought letting their young child twerk on stage was also acceptable.

And no. Im not saying which town. Because I know how easy it is to gather information from multiple posts and potentially know who I am.

MistressoftheDarkSide · Today 16:05

coulditbeme2323 · Today 15:58

It is becoming demonic! It's the only word for it.

Erm, shark jumped I'm afraid. That kind of word is really unhelpful.

We're seeing a slow resurgance of alleged Christian Nationalism, coming in from the US and already being used to target minorities. Invoking such notions takes us into dangerous psychological territory.

It's one thing to examine how some extremes are being pushed, and generally there's a big financial motivation, but calling things out as demonic is extremely unhelpful.

AlternateLook · Today 16:05

Whoawhoa · Today 15:29

Won't somebody please think of the children!!!

Some of the LGBTQ+ and the Furry mob do little else, mate.

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