Does anybody else dislike Pride?

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Does anybody else dislike Pride?

We have one in our town for the second year running, and it's just really off.

Now before I get the "don't be homophobic comments" I am very much live and let live.

It's just that it can be very adult in the middle of the day.

Oh that's ok then. Wtaf?!

Children are the future. The protection of children should be a fundamental part of any civilised society and not really up for debate. The attitudes on this thread are deeply disturbing to me.

Pride is no longer anything to do with acceptance and love, it's quite literally a fetish parade. And if your sexual proclivities are the central element of your life and your personality, you need some therapy, not a celebration.

You didn't need to highlight the other person's good experience with pride in order to say that did you?

Question meant in good faith.

If this was a group of openly straight men marching in the same gear, strap ons, gags etc for sexual inclusivity.

Do you think women and children should accept they have to see it in public spaces and be welcoming toward it?

Good point. I think we can all agree that wars and famines are worse than Ada HD reading stories to children. But neither enthuses me much.

Answered in good faith even though it's not really comparable.

If an organised event, known about in advance then fine. I can avoid it if I wish to and I can protect any children of mine from seeing something I do not wish them to see. Nobody has to see it do they?

If there were hundreds of people enjoying this event, why would my views have to trump theirs?

Horror films are ticketed, not in a public area and have legal age restrictions.

That point is an own goal.

Most children watch online.

If safeguarding children isn't a societal issue, why do we have The Childrens Act with such categories as "future risk if emotional harm"? Why do we have mandatory reporting of suspected abuse / harm? Would you be happy with a toddler being in an environment where their parent was conducting sex work? You can argue that it's the parents responsibility not to do it, but some of the Libertarian bent would argue there's no harm if they do.

It's not about being offended. It's about getting children to adulthood with a good stable and grounded base so that they can make fully informed devisions about healthy relationships,regardless of orientation.

If we keep pushing the boundaries of what children are exposed to in extreme terms, it will elevate the risk of developing unhealthy and potentially high risk relationships. BDSM used to be a niche. I've been to these adult events. They ban photography and police ID rigorously because to do otherwise puts the community itself at risk and because most adults are into consensual relationships and don't want younger people to infiltrate and be unwittingly at risk in an environment not designed for them, legally or morally.

We have to have generally accepted standards for what children are exposed to and need to be shielded from until they can make their own adult decisions.

That's great for your kids.

Unfortunately Pride is no longer about tolerance of diversity.

Which is why I no longer support it.

For those saying 'just don't take kids' - what if you are a parent with a child with emerging gay sexuality - many many gay people say they knew by the time they were 8 or 9 - and you want them to know that they is public support for same sex love, and celebration of gay individuals? But don't feel you can take them to see all that because they will be confronted with an otherwise naked man thrusting a 3 foot dildo in their face?

What if your primary school child is subject to homophobic influences at school and you want to show them that homosexuality is central to our society and to be embraced - but you have to keep them out of the town centre on Pride day because men wearing nothing but leather jock straps are leading each other about in chains and brandishing whips?

I have nothing against these fetishes amongst consenting adults - but a celebration of homosexuality is surely about who you love and who you might WANT to have sex with. Not about showing the nuts and bolts of what happens in the bedroom and specialist clubs. Straight people engage in BDSM etc etc too.

Not everyone can avoid it, you seem to be only able to see your own point of view. That point is ridiculous.

Thousands of people live on the routes.
Thousands of people have to go to work within the routes.

Pride is in a public shared space and thousands of children live within the route.

Which Pride event was it?

Oh find a sense of humour!
My daughter's gay but she doesn't make it her personality- she'd definitely enjoy what I wrote

I'm concerned that your children do seem to know what one is?

Get in the bin with that DARVO.

People have concerns about sexualised fetishes being played out in the street, it's a million miles away from what Pride used to be. Flags, glitter, rainbows, music and love.

But along come people determined to paint themselves as so bloody progressive and so opened minded their brains have fallen out.

Oh, tis only a ball gag, what larks! Doms and subs playing out fetishes down the high street, paddles and pissing what a great time for all the family! Scantily dressed men on leads, why is it's exactly the same as a builders bum, nay, BETTER than a builders bum because there's a flag. Run away and hide your kids Mary Whitehouse, the furries have arrived and they've got strap ons!

And then the shaming (to try and shut you up) dressed up as fake concern, oh YOUR kids know what a dildo is do they, like that is it, hmmmm hmmmmm, a thinly veiled insinuation that somehow you're the sick pervert just because you'd rather not have one waved around in front of your kids faces 🤬

If you don't mind one being waved about in front of kids and think it's just harmless fun, go right ahead. But you do NOT get to accuse people who do mind of what we all know you're trying to accuse them of. No excuse.

How is it not comparable?

If it’s not perverted and it’s completely okay in daily society then the sexuality of the person displaying it shouldn’t matter.

It is advertised yes, and it dominates areas that the general public would like access to in order to go about their business without seeing open sexual deviancy.

The same posters who advocate for this would probably condemn any right wing protest, any pro Israel protest, the LGB alliance who want separation from trans ideology protesting and women’s rights protests who also want separation from trans. It’s such utter hypocrisy.

Brilliantly said.

Why does it matter?

Yes, they should be shielded from Pride if too much now. By the parents.
When did parents become so entitled? Parents need to parent, it's their job.

How do you shield a child if they live on the route?

No it isn't!

We just have different views. Me? If I don't want to see something, I don't go.

You don’t live within the area though

Here's a handy calendar of Pride events to make it easier for those who don't like them to avoid them.

You don’t work within the area though

How do you avoid them if you work and live within the route

Pride events tend to be on floats, pass by. What, half an hours worth? Then end up in a field or similar to watch bands play or whatever.

If someone cannot work around that, one day a year then there's no hope!!

Have you ever seen a pride event?