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Political badges should be banned from NHS uniforms

324 replies

Ihatetomatoes · 04/06/2026 08:28

New report says political badges such as Pro Palestine shouldn't be worn on NHS uniforms. It's led to increased antisemitism and fear amongst Jewish patients.

Also NHS uniforms not to be worn on protests.

This report makes a number of suggestions and in my opinion must be implemented. All political badges off NHS uniforms. No NHS uniforms on protests such as pro Palestine. It contributes to racism and fear.

The NHS should treat all patients equally and individuals political opinions shouldn't be pinned on their uniforms.

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loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 12:35

MrsShawnHatosy · 04/06/2026 12:34

I’m Welsh speaking. I had one of these on my lanyard before I retired - the one on the right. (The left hand one indicates a Welsh learner). To indicate I was happy to converse in Welsh with anyone if that was their preference. Should these also be banned?

Was it a policy where you worked that customers could speak Welsh if they wanted to? If it was a policy then there would be no need for badges.

TheKeatingFive · 04/06/2026 12:37

MrsShawnHatosy · 04/06/2026 12:34

I’m Welsh speaking. I had one of these on my lanyard before I retired - the one on the right. (The left hand one indicates a Welsh learner). To indicate I was happy to converse in Welsh with anyone if that was their preference. Should these also be banned?

No because that's a point of information that's relevant to your interaction with the patient.

Anarchy99 · 04/06/2026 12:37

MrsShawnHatosy · 04/06/2026 12:34

I’m Welsh speaking. I had one of these on my lanyard before I retired - the one on the right. (The left hand one indicates a Welsh learner). To indicate I was happy to converse in Welsh with anyone if that was their preference. Should these also be banned?

That’s not a political statement, FFS! That is relevant information to customers/patients, just like wearing a badge indicating you have sign language.

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:38

GeneralPeter · 04/06/2026 12:24

Why? If this is a freedom of expression issue, why should a staff member be bound by what their colleagues think is acceptable?

And why ask the workers rather than the patients?

And would you go with a simple majority view, or is a sufficient minority objection enough?

And nationally? Or is each NHS trust or site running such consultations?

And is running such consultations the best use of NHS resources?

As your contribution is (now) a process one, I’m interested what the process is.

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Because the workers work as a team in their workplace.

I assume they have decision making processes, perhaps more robust than a simple majority. I can't make shit up about what those are. And I am not a journo to go investigating it right now.

I respect their right to determine their working conditions.

Everyone is not everyone else's police.

godmum56 · 04/06/2026 12:38

MrsShawnHatosy · 04/06/2026 12:34

I’m Welsh speaking. I had one of these on my lanyard before I retired - the one on the right. (The left hand one indicates a Welsh learner). To indicate I was happy to converse in Welsh with anyone if that was their preference. Should these also be banned?

is speaking a language now a political POV?

MrsShawnHatosy · 04/06/2026 12:38

loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 12:35

Was it a policy where you worked that customers could speak Welsh if they wanted to? If it was a policy then there would be no need for badges.

Yes it was a policy that customers should be able to get Welsh language service, but not all employees were Welsh speaking.

ToWhitToWhoo · 04/06/2026 12:38

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 04/06/2026 10:57

I suspect this has come about due to the, ‘bring your whole self to work’ initiatives.

I do agree with the idea of not displaying political messages via the use of badges and lanyards but then you crash straight into another ideology by doing so which is those who use their lanyards to express their sexuality or disability. I feel like all of these expressions of self are in the same melting point and once you outlaw one you are potentially going to have to outlaw them all.

Disability lanyards are not about ideology, though, are they? I thought they were about indicating a possible physical need, e.g. for a seat on the tube.

Tabarnak · 04/06/2026 12:39

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 11:23

I am talking about a creeping attitude which is very dangerous

Respectable people felt uncomfortable? Witch burnt.
Southern States US women felt uncomfortable? Black man lynched.
Full siblings felt uncomfortable? Half sibling beaten or put out.
Etc.

Comfort does not trump all and it tends to serve repression

Personally I feel uncomfortable in a place where people are denied their religious symbols, or their visible welcome to queer minorities. At risk, even, in a society which suppresses protest about war.

Well who says your discomfort needs addressing if you don't accept that the discomfort of others is an issue?

Keeping work attire free of non-work allegiance is not 'suppression'. Our democracy has ensured that Anti-Gazan war protestors have marched through London week after week after week - supported by all of us tax payers, as is right.

No one is 'afraid' - it is as much a democratic principle to keep public service uniforms free of everything except the employers logo which should ensure equality - as it is to allow / support public demonstrations and protests.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 04/06/2026 12:39

MrsShawnHatosy · 04/06/2026 12:34

I’m Welsh speaking. I had one of these on my lanyard before I retired - the one on the right. (The left hand one indicates a Welsh learner). To indicate I was happy to converse in Welsh with anyone if that was their preference. Should these also be banned?

Completely different matter. An indication of speaking a language is not a political statement.

MrsShawnHatosy · 04/06/2026 12:39

godmum56 · 04/06/2026 12:38

is speaking a language now a political POV?

It can be for some people, that’s why I was asking the question.

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:40

Anarchy99 · 04/06/2026 12:37

That’s not a political statement, FFS! That is relevant information to customers/patients, just like wearing a badge indicating you have sign language.

It is political. Welsh language activists have been jailed, well into 21st century. There is also a tradition of sometimes violent resistance.

I love the UK's indigenous languages btw.

TheKeatingFive · 04/06/2026 12:40

MrsShawnHatosy · 04/06/2026 12:38

Yes it was a policy that customers should be able to get Welsh language service, but not all employees were Welsh speaking.

So? You were signalling that you had that service for Welsh speakers. What do you think the problem would be with that?

TheKeatingFive · 04/06/2026 12:41

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:40

It is political. Welsh language activists have been jailed, well into 21st century. There is also a tradition of sometimes violent resistance.

I love the UK's indigenous languages btw.

When was the last person jailed for simply speaking Welsh?

This has all the hallmarks of a totally pointless derail.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 04/06/2026 12:41

MrsShawnHatosy · 04/06/2026 12:39

It can be for some people, that’s why I was asking the question.

Utter rubbish.

TheKeatingFive · 04/06/2026 12:41

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:38

Because the workers work as a team in their workplace.

I assume they have decision making processes, perhaps more robust than a simple majority. I can't make shit up about what those are. And I am not a journo to go investigating it right now.

I respect their right to determine their working conditions.

Everyone is not everyone else's police.

And if it's very upsetting for patients? What then?

loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 12:42

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:38

Because the workers work as a team in their workplace.

I assume they have decision making processes, perhaps more robust than a simple majority. I can't make shit up about what those are. And I am not a journo to go investigating it right now.

I respect their right to determine their working conditions.

Everyone is not everyone else's police.

It's not their working conditions though. It's expressing a political viewpoint which may well be controversial and cause customers/patients anxiety. The wellbeing of those who are unwell and are using the NHS is more important than virtue signaling by staff.

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:44

TheKeatingFive · 04/06/2026 12:41

And if it's very upsetting for patients? What then?

Then they deal with it in house after patients make complaints using existing mechanisms.

Running around getting angry on imaginary victims' behalf is dominant behaviour.

SwatTheTwit · 04/06/2026 12:44

Ihatetomatoes · 04/06/2026 08:33

To people who think political badges should be worn, why do you think so?

I don’t think they should be worn, but why stop at political expression? Maybe religious symbols should go next.

Anarchy99 · 04/06/2026 12:44

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:40

It is political. Welsh language activists have been jailed, well into 21st century. There is also a tradition of sometimes violent resistance.

I love the UK's indigenous languages btw.

Okay, you are really stretching. 😬

You know that there is a difference between information and opinion, right?

The poster is indicating that he/she speaks Welsh so that Welsh speaking people are aware.

It is not a political opinion.

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:45

TheKeatingFive · 04/06/2026 12:41

When was the last person jailed for simply speaking Welsh?

This has all the hallmarks of a totally pointless derail.

I am always surprised when English people do not know the history of the other nations in Britain.

It is not a derail. It is about wearing badges and what they mean, and persecuted minorities.

TheKeatingFive · 04/06/2026 12:46

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:44

Then they deal with it in house after patients make complaints using existing mechanisms.

Running around getting angry on imaginary victims' behalf is dominant behaviour.

Why on earth would you priortise staff's needs to broadcast their offensive (or otherwise) opinions over patient care?

Do you not understand why we fund the NHS? What it's for?

MrsShawnHatosy · 04/06/2026 12:46

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 04/06/2026 12:41

Utter rubbish.

No it’s not. Some people, wrongly, see the Welsh language as divisive and elitist. In fact that is the premier reason Reform are now the official opposition in Wales.

loislovesstewie · 04/06/2026 12:46

He was jailed for painting over road signs for crying out loud, not for speaking Welsh.

godmum56 · 04/06/2026 12:46

ChipswithMayonnaise · 04/06/2026 12:42

he can't say anything. He died in 2016.