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H & M model photographs

249 replies

Clafoutie · Yesterday 22:29

I realise this isn’t a new thing. And I realise that H & M are not alone in this. But my eye was drawn by an H & M advert on this site and when I visited the H & M website I was appalled by the photos of models there. A lot of them are no doubt AI generated and modified, but they are presenting images of women who look unwell. I thought the fashion industry was moving on from representing women in this way. I was naive.

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Leavesandthings · Today 08:35

Once again slim women get called emaciated, lollipop heads, delusional, prepubescent...
Yay body positivity!

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · Today 08:36

underweight models shouldn’t be used but at the same time we also shouldn’t be using overweight models unless specifically advertising larger sizing clothing.

overweight is equally not what we should be promoting and I don’t think it’s going to help sell clothes is the models look big in them.

Loubissou · Today 08:36

Undercookedby10 · Today 08:18

She has the body of a prepubescent girl. Not a normal, healthy young woman.

Therein lies the problem.

No she doesn't. She has a youthful body. People come in a huge variety of sizes.

Why do you find it acceptable to diminish slim women?

Jo7890123 · Today 08:37

JustFrustrated · Today 07:29

We’ve moved so far from seeing healthy weights it’s sad.

i know lots of women that look like that. Some with effort, some without.

A quick google tells you that H&M models start at size 6 (UK)….

We have, tho probably not in the direction you think! 62% of adult females are overweight in the UK, a figure that has been rising steadily for decades - and they haven't changed the criteria, statistically, almost 2 out of 3 of us are clinically overweight (and I'm in the 31% within that who are in the obese category myself, so not a slender person judging others..).

We have supermarkets full of food thats far too sugary and/or fatty to be a sensible choice for anyone, and restaurants serving mains that have almost the number of calories we need in a day.

All this means that the average size of woman you see in the street, is going to be heavier than is healthy, and someone who may appear 'skinny', may not be underweight at all.

emuloc · Today 08:38

MyOtherProfile · Today 07:16

This is not a healthy weight and not something I hope our daughters aspire to.

She looks fine to me.

Keepoffmyartichokes · Today 08:39

Whilst we are ripping apart perfectly healthy looking young women what about these models, no one starts that's talking about how unhealthy they are....

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imaccoffeeaddict · Today 08:45

MostlyChickpeas · Today 08:31

Your first mistake was coming to Mumsnet for a discussion about what healthy bodies look like. Thinness remains above godliness around here, at whatever the cost.

These women are very slim, and most of us will never look like that. They are a lot taller and younger than us. But it is their job to be tall and slim, it is not my job to be tall and slim. As for their health, we are not their doctors.

But being tall and slim ≠ unhealthy

NImumconfused · Today 08:48

I think some of it is down to digital alterations though, to me these proportions don't make any sense - her legs are different sizes for a start!

Forrdige · Today 08:52

Undercookedby10 · Today 08:18

She has the body of a prepubescent girl. Not a normal, healthy young woman.

Therein lies the problem.

This is so unhinged, it’s not even masked as concern, it’s just vile. You alright hun?

Tortoisel · Today 08:56

They are very much healthy.

Looking at the pics perfectly actually. They have been gifted with incredible body proportions.

And I am first to say when people are looking too thin. I won’t name names but the ozempic celebs have really bought that look back.

If people are confused it’s probably because for so long we haven’t actually had underweight models in photos. The arm and thigh bones are a key giveaway. There’s a lot of healthy fat on upper arms there.

Joydi · Today 09:01

Undercookedby10 · Today 08:18

She has the body of a prepubescent girl. Not a normal, healthy young woman.

Therein lies the problem.

You are wrong. She is at the slim end of a normal distribution curve for young women. But it’s def not obviously abnormal. I certainly wouldn’t be diagnosing anything from a photo like this.

Purplecatshopaholic · Today 09:03

MyOtherProfile · Today 07:16

This is not a healthy weight and not something I hope our daughters aspire to.

What on earth is wrong with her? She looks fine to me, slim but not underweight to my eyes.

WestwardHo1 · Today 09:03

AllTheChaos · Today 08:07

I would like to see some more clear muscle tone, well developed arm and leg muscles for instance, as I feel that is healthier for the body to have than not.

edited to add: in general fashion pics, not necessarily the ones on this thread, though there’s some arms that don’t look very muscled (something I’m v aware of as mine are so scrawny since I got ill and I don’t like it!)

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Unfortunately you can't operate a wish list of how you'd like women's bodies to look.

I personally would like to see fewer fat children and teenagers because I know they're storing up a lifetime of expensive problems for themselves, but I don't (usually) voice it.

Young women are slimmer than older women. Some young women are slimmer than other young women. Some young women have small boobs and visible collar bones. Some young women are really tall. Some young women are beautiful and wear clothes well. That's why they're models.

Littledidsheknow · Today 09:04

I think the women in these pictures look fine, just slim. They’re not bony or emaciated looking. My DD is at least as slim as this and eats like a horse. She’s 5’11 too.

I think it’s preferable to the parade of morbid obesity you see on the Snag website. I say this as a size 18 myself.

NImumconfused · Today 09:04

H&m model

Sorry, pic didn't show last time. This pic for example, looks like poor digital editing to me.

Namechangeforthisdilemma1 · Today 09:08

alexdgr8 · Today 07:21

Yes. That looks bordering on emaciated to me.
Or someone who has been seriously unwell or is chronically ill.

Really?!

Bloozie · Today 09:14

This is a mad thread. The H&M models look healthy. That isn't to say that if they were a bit bigger, they wouldn't be healthy. They ARE slim. But just that. Slim. Slim isn't unhealthy.

RancidRuby · Today 09:14

Undercookedby10 · Today 08:18

She has the body of a prepubescent girl. Not a normal, healthy young woman.

Therein lies the problem.

You can’t tell that from the photo, you can literally only see her arms.

DailyEnergyCrisis · Today 09:17

They all look great to me and I think I can recognise underweight when I see it. I’m jealous if anything- I’m not overweight at bmi 22 but I’m short and a bit flabby, no where near as healthy looking as these women.

msmolli · Today 09:17

MyOtherProfile · Today 07:16

This is not a healthy weight and not something I hope our daughters aspire to.

You are being ridiculous. My body looks like that. Bit flabbier as I'm 50+. I've always been a size 10. I eat more than my husband. @MyOtherProfile

IPoopRainblows · Today 09:17

Undercookedby10 · Today 07:45

White dress is absolutely underweight. This is not health.

She’s not clearly underweight, she is clearly tall, at least 5’ 9’’.
Being tall and slim is not unhealthy.

Caddycat · Today 09:18

Let's assume they are very tall, like 180cm/5ft11, and weigh 60kg/9st6. That is still a healthy BMI according to the NHS.

I think that collectively, as an overweight population (on average), our view of what is healthy is very distorted.

doublec · Today 09:23

This thread 🤦🏻‍♀️ 🤯

It's quite usual for H&M, Zara and various other brands to dress the models in clothing a few sizes larger. Also, H&M is usually large to size anyway. But, that's by the by, the model is a perfectly healthy weight. She doesn't look too thin, emaciated, ill, or any of the other ridiculous things written in this thread.

Honeypizza · Today 09:24

I think they all look healthy and a good weight. I'm a size 10 and bordering on being overweight according to the NHS, and I'm well aware that I could do with losing a few kilos to be healthier.

You could argue that it's worse to show larger models because that's technically unhealthy (but we don't because weren't we done with judging each other's bodies?)

Moveoverdarlin · Today 09:29

MyOtherProfile · Today 07:16

This is not a healthy weight and not something I hope our daughters aspire to.

This picture?? Really? You’re saying she looks too thin? She looks completely normal and healthy.

Until I had had children in my late 30s, I had this figure, so did most of my friends.

I think people are now just justifying being over weight by all this real woman shit.

I don’t come from the Kate Moss school of nothing tastes as good as skinny feels, I come from the school of ‘everyone knows a size 10 is the ideal dress size’.