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Am I the Asshole for being upset that my stepdaughter came on our anniversary camping trip and ended up ruining the weekend?

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Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 18:27

I want to start by saying that I’m a stepmum, and I’ve been in my stepdaughter’s life for nearly 11 years. She was three years old when I met her, and she’ll be turning 14 in November.

I have a very good relationship with her mum, and I do a lot for my stepdaughter. I take her to and from school twice a week, cook for her, do her washing, clean her bedroom, look after her when she’s ill, and generally do all the things a parent would do. I also have an 18-year-old son. My stepdaughter comes everywhere with us—shopping trips, the cinema, family days out. We rarely get weekends to ourselves because she’s usually with us, and I’ve never had a problem with that because I genuinely love her.

Every year, my husband and I celebrate our anniversary with a trip to the Lake District. This year was supposed to be no different. However, earlier this year we found out we were going to be made homeless, so we had to cancel both a planned family holiday. All of our money had to go towards moving costs, deposits, rent, and setting up a new home.

We still have a couples holiday booked for September to celebrate ten years together and two years of marriage, but our usual anniversary trip to the Lake District had to be cancelled. Instead, we decided on a simple two-night camping trip. The plan was for it to be just me and my husband.

As soon as my stepdaughter found out, she was furious. She felt it was unfair that we were going away when she hadn’t had a holiday herself and insisted she should come too. (Despite her already going away with her mom twice this year, and another break planned in August) Honestly, I didn’t want her to come….. and we didn’t invite my son.

There is one day out of the entire year that I feel should just be for me and my husband. However, my husband thought it wouldn’t be a big deal and said we should take her.

So we did.

That meant buying an extra airbed, packing more food, and accommodating her gluten-free diet. On the day we left, I gave her a backpack and asked her to pack a couple of days’ worth of clothes, plus essentials like deodorant, a toothbrush, and a hairbrush.

She came downstairs with three overstuffed bags full of clothes that had simply been thrown in. I ended up unpacking everything, folding it properly, and repacking it all into one bag myself…… with her being argumentative and rude as I didn’t it, trying to explain it would all fit. I also had to remind her multiple times to get her toiletries…. Which she didn’t do, so had to use all of mine….. (which meant her diving into bags that were not hers, moving and loosing things whilst we were there, and generally making a mess with the bags)

Fifteen minutes into the journey, she announced she was hungry….. this is despite her eating before we left and her having snacks for the journey……. She got rude and argumentative, until we said she had to wait an hour. We stopped at services for food and to walk the dog, where she decided she needed to empty the car to find the hairbrush she didn’t bring.

When we arrived at the campsite, she refused to help put up the tent or unload the car, and when she was wanted to do was explore…… all fine…..but there’s no need for the attitude. All she wanted to do was wander around with the dog. There were sheep in nearby fields, so I specifically told her not to take the dog up there and not to wander off.

For the first two days, the dog was perfect. He was off-lead the entire time, ignored the sheep completely, and stayed close to us. He is well trained and has specific commands, all of which he immediately responds to.

The first night, she complained about sleeping alone in the tent, despite us explaining before we left, and when we initially invited her; that she and the dog would be in the tent while my husband and I slept in the car.

She complained about the food (BBQ), the ants, the spiders, the sheep poo, the midges….. everything that I had warned her about BEFORE WE LEFT.

The next morning, instead of getting dressed and helping us get ready for the day, she disappeared to the lake with the dog because she wanted to go swimming….. she didn’t ask and for a few mins we didn’t know where she or the dog was! We were literally trying to detach the tent, get dressed and leave for the day, and she simply ignored what we’d asked her to do….. and when she came back it was “oh sorry, I didn’t know” (and I’m like YEA YOU DID!)

She was fine in the local town and beach because it’s what SHE wanted to do. Usually we would have just hiked with the dog all day, but she complained about us wanting to do that too, so we didn’t.

The second night cooler and was windy and rainy. She was perfectly safe in the tent but decided she no longer wanted to sleep there at about 3 am, screaming (instead of just knocking the rear window of the car) and waking up the whole campsite…..she wanted to sleep in the car with us instead. So all three of us ended up squeezed into a Volkswagen Passat on an airbed.

Nobody could move. It was hot and she spent the next hour complaining that she was too hot and didn’t have enough room, that she was uncomfortable…….Eventually I completely lost my patience, got up, and tried to leave to sleep in the tent with the dog instead. Only then did my husband offer to move.

By the final morning, everyone was exhausted. I was trying not to loose my temper, but everything I asked her to do was “why can’t you? or “I’m not doing that”….. when I specifically to help us pack up her things and put everything in one area ready to load into the car, she again complained she didn’t have room for everything in her one bag abs threw it on the floor saying “well you do it then”……..

Instead, she wandered off again with the dog, whilst we were distracted.

The dog followed her towards the area where the sheep were. This time, he decided to chase them. The moment I shouted for him, he stopped immediately and came running back to me and i immediately put him in the car.

My stepdaughter came back saying she didn’t understand why he’d done it and that she’d been telling him to stop but he wasn’t listening.

At that point, I completely lost my temper and I really, REALLY shouted at her. I told her that farmers are legally entitled to protect their livestock and that the dog could have been shot dead because she ignored my repeated instructions. I had specifically told her not to go up that part of the camp. She kept blaming the dog and saying it wasn’t her fault.

The dog had behaved perfectly for two days. He had not been on a lead the entire time and if I saw his focus drifting, he was recalled and refocused on his ball or food or something else It was only when she wandered off up near the sheep because SHE wanted to “catch” one, that there was a problem.

The entire drive home, I barely spoke. I was upset, frustrated, and honestly resentful. My husband has told me I’m being too harsh and that I need to let it go and she understands.

My husband DID tell her off each with each incident (so did I in my interactions with her), so we arnt letting her get away with it.

My view is that she shouldn’t have been on the trip in the first place, that the whole point was for my husband and me to spend some time together, and that her behaviour throughout the weekend made what was supposed to be our anniversary trip stressful and unenjoyable and the incident with the dog just was the icing on the cake. She’s nearly 14. Big enough to follow instructions.

Safe to say she won’t be coming with me again. I’d rather not go than take her again. My husband thinks I’m being silly.

OP posts:
allthewayaround · Yesterday 19:52

In your OP you describe how TWICE your dog wandered off and you didn’t notice because you were distracted.

This is why your dog should have been on a lead - because you didn’t have it under control.

Don’t blame the juvenile party in this scenario just be a realisable dog owner and admit you screwed up, commit to not letting it happen again.

BippityBopper · Yesterday 19:52

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 19:40

Adjusting to me in her life?

we have been together for 10 years nearly 11. How much more adjusting does she need?

I did actually say needing to adjust isn't relevant in your case.

YourPoliteTurtle · Yesterday 19:52

almostfalling · Yesterday 19:47

If she was away with her mum and step dad I doubt the step dad would want to share a bed with her. I’m guessing it’s a 2 man tent

the usual solution is that one adult stays with the kid, (the mum when it's a daughter) not that the 2 adults leave the kid alone.

Harriet36 · Yesterday 19:52

I'm sorry but you were on a campsite, your dog should have been on a lead all the time, regardless of the sheep. How antisocial of you to allow the dog to roam freely.

Why did neither of you put your foot down and tell this child she wasn't welcome on your 2 day trip? She's manipulating both of you.

On a personal level, I don't know any 14yo girls who would choose to go camping with their stepmum and dad over spending quality time with their friends.

Sassylovesbooks · Yesterday 19:53

I agree with others, you have a husband problem. His daughter has had 2 holidays with her Mum and another pending, so to say she hasn't been away, is a complete lie. Your husband should have never agreed to his daughter coming in the first place, it was an anniversary break, not a family holiday. So what if his daughter was furious! He's the bloody adult, not his daughter!

Your step-daughter's behaviour is dreadful, she's 14, not 4. She's perfectly capable of helping to pack/unpack. She did nothing but moan, whinge and complain for 2 days. Only happy when she was doing the activities she wanted.

What does your husband do for his daughter? I ask because it appears to me that you are doing everything for her. You should be an extra adult there to help and support your husband, whilst he parents his daughter. I'm not saying you shouldn't be involved, because to a degree you should.

Your husband isn't parenting his daughter. She's being allowed to rule the roost, because he's not putting in firm boundaries. She's rude and disrespectful towards you (and probably her Dad). Not acceptable.

JumpingPumpkin · Yesterday 19:53

She's at an awkward age, and will be for several years. I've noticed a lot of step mums find it harder to parent teens. Add to that you all having to move house and cancel a holiday, she's probably feeling a bit unsettled.

Having said that, I think it's fine for you and your husband to do occasional events just as a couple to keep your relationship strong. I'd suggest a conversation with your husband about how to manage expectations in future. He needs to manage giving his daughter and wife attention separately.

MyAutumnCrow · Yesterday 19:54

OnMidnightsLikeThis · Yesterday 19:50

OP you shouldn’t have mentioned the dog being off lead- posters will just jump on that and ignore anything else you post!! 🤣

Goes to OP’s state of mind, your honour.

In the case, arsehole (since she asked).

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · Yesterday 19:55

allthewayaround · Yesterday 19:52

In your OP you describe how TWICE your dog wandered off and you didn’t notice because you were distracted.

This is why your dog should have been on a lead - because you didn’t have it under control.

Don’t blame the juvenile party in this scenario just be a realisable dog owner and admit you screwed up, commit to not letting it happen again.

Absolutely- the dog was off lead and no adult eyes were on it. Totally irresponsible.

Your or your husbands eyes should have been on the dog at any time he wasn’t secured.

Everybodysinthehousetonight · Yesterday 19:55

Can you summarise?

tryandbepositive · Yesterday 19:56

Did you really write all of that?

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 19:57

13/14 yo girls are knobs though. Would it have been ruined if it had been your son?

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 19:57

RudolphTheReindeer · Yesterday 18:49

It sounds like she was a pain but I think you gave mixed messages re the dog insisting she keep him on a lead but you let him roam without one.

I never said a thing about the lead. He was off the lead for the whole time we were there. She wandered off and he followed her. She was specifically told not to go up that end of the camp…. And did.

OP posts:
Ooodelally · Yesterday 19:58

She is a brat and he is a Pratt. Don’t take her again, the whole thing sounds a nightmare.

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 19:59

takealettermsjones · Yesterday 18:54

You're skating over the massive (to a teenager) bit where you had to cancel the family holiday because of money, but you still kept the two holidays you're going on with just your husband and you. I think that was selfish, as was your decision to make her sleep alone in the tent with the dog while you both slept in the car. If you'd agreed to her coming I don't think you can legitimately moan about having to pack extra food for her or cater for her diet, as you'd be doing that at home anyway, surely. Yes she behaved badly but so did you, and given that you're the adults, I think on the whole YABU.

The family holiday was the week we moved house so had to be cancelled.

I would hardly call 2 nights camping at £30 a “holiday” 🤣🤣🤦🏻‍♀️

OP posts:
Cosyblankets · Yesterday 20:02

Your dog should never be off lead anywhere near sheep.
If he comes back for you but not her he does not have perfect recall
If you have to distract him with food he food not have perfect recall
If you have to distract him with a ball he does not have perfect recall
Lead by example and put him on the lead.
My dog has great recall but not a chance am I putting him at risk. It only takes once

Weedingtodo · Yesterday 20:02

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 19:38

I disagree. The sheep were on the other end of the camp a good 10 minutes walk so you couldn’t really see them. SHE wandered off. She didn’t listen to. and SHE caused the issue with the sheep. He was there for 2 days and was the correct dog.

The sheep didn’t even know he was there. So your points moot.

She had snacks in the car? Or didn’t you read that bit.

the tens was attached to the back of the car and the boot was open. I could have touched her if I put my hand out, so she wasn’t alone 🙄

You described it differently in your op.

You didn’t mention it was a car tent and you also questioned why DSD hadn’t just knocked on the rear window to alert you rather than screaming?

Why would she have needed to knock if the boot was open and she could reach over and touch you. I don’t get that.

Besafeeatcake · Yesterday 20:03

OP you were mad before you left and she wound you up. You were over bothered as you didn’t want her there. Pressure cooker waiting to happen.

And your fairly aggressive responses to anyone who doesn’t agree with you does lend iIt self to you not being perfect here either.

And for goodness sakes when there are sheep around put your dog on a lead. You were wrong here despite protestations that your dog has good recall because it still ran after the sheep.

80smonster · Yesterday 20:03

Urgh. This is a very long cautionary tale about putting your foot down, no means no. OP does come off as passive aggressive, not exactly surprising that a teenager ruined an anniversary weekend. You didn’t want her there, her father should have held firm: it’s him you’ve got beef with in my view. If the dog had been shot, then you could rightly be very angry with the teenager, but it didn’t.

ILoveMyCaravan · Yesterday 20:06

Apart from saying NO to her in the first place, the only thing that stands out is that your dog should have been on a LEAD the whole time it was near the sheep! Doesn’t matter how good its recall is, a dog off lead near sheep is asking to be shot. And that’s on you, the owners.

takealettermsjones · Yesterday 20:06

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 19:59

The family holiday was the week we moved house so had to be cancelled.

I would hardly call 2 nights camping at £30 a “holiday” 🤣🤣🤦🏻‍♀️

Yes, but the optics of it to a child are that the holiday she gets to go on was cancelled while the two that she doesn't get to go on were still going ahead.

I would hardly call 2 nights camping at £30 a “holiday”

Straighten your face about it then 🤣🤣🤦🏻‍♀️

30mins · Yesterday 20:07

Yabnu but the dog should be on lead. It is ridiculous to think your dog should just wander. Dogs are annoying to other people and sheep! Keep it on a lead.

PantaloonMad · Yesterday 20:08

pinkyredrose · Yesterday 18:42

What a spoilt little bitch! She's a teenager ffs not 3! If she can't behave i wouldn't take her anywhere ever again.

Your husband needs to parent effectively not pander and make excuses.

Gross language to use for a child. Check yourself

Becuriousnotjudgemental1980 · Yesterday 20:09

Nah you’re right to be pissed. If my daughter behaved like that I’d have gone ballistic too. I’d be cancelling her coming on the next holiday as well. No excuse for being a bratty little fecker in my opinion. Sounds like you’re a lovely step mum and she’s lucky to have you. 13 year old girls can be a mare but also should know how to behave.

JillThePlantKiller · Yesterday 20:09

Are you and dh on the same page or does he just placate the most difficult female of the moment?

pinkyredrose · Yesterday 20:11

PantaloonMad · Yesterday 20:08

Gross language to use for a child. Check yourself

I don't need to check myself, an almost 14yr is well aware of how they're behaving.