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Am I the Asshole for being upset that my stepdaughter came on our anniversary camping trip and ended up ruining the weekend?

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Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 18:27

I want to start by saying that I’m a stepmum, and I’ve been in my stepdaughter’s life for nearly 11 years. She was three years old when I met her, and she’ll be turning 14 in November.

I have a very good relationship with her mum, and I do a lot for my stepdaughter. I take her to and from school twice a week, cook for her, do her washing, clean her bedroom, look after her when she’s ill, and generally do all the things a parent would do. I also have an 18-year-old son. My stepdaughter comes everywhere with us—shopping trips, the cinema, family days out. We rarely get weekends to ourselves because she’s usually with us, and I’ve never had a problem with that because I genuinely love her.

Every year, my husband and I celebrate our anniversary with a trip to the Lake District. This year was supposed to be no different. However, earlier this year we found out we were going to be made homeless, so we had to cancel both a planned family holiday. All of our money had to go towards moving costs, deposits, rent, and setting up a new home.

We still have a couples holiday booked for September to celebrate ten years together and two years of marriage, but our usual anniversary trip to the Lake District had to be cancelled. Instead, we decided on a simple two-night camping trip. The plan was for it to be just me and my husband.

As soon as my stepdaughter found out, she was furious. She felt it was unfair that we were going away when she hadn’t had a holiday herself and insisted she should come too. (Despite her already going away with her mom twice this year, and another break planned in August) Honestly, I didn’t want her to come….. and we didn’t invite my son.

There is one day out of the entire year that I feel should just be for me and my husband. However, my husband thought it wouldn’t be a big deal and said we should take her.

So we did.

That meant buying an extra airbed, packing more food, and accommodating her gluten-free diet. On the day we left, I gave her a backpack and asked her to pack a couple of days’ worth of clothes, plus essentials like deodorant, a toothbrush, and a hairbrush.

She came downstairs with three overstuffed bags full of clothes that had simply been thrown in. I ended up unpacking everything, folding it properly, and repacking it all into one bag myself…… with her being argumentative and rude as I didn’t it, trying to explain it would all fit. I also had to remind her multiple times to get her toiletries…. Which she didn’t do, so had to use all of mine….. (which meant her diving into bags that were not hers, moving and loosing things whilst we were there, and generally making a mess with the bags)

Fifteen minutes into the journey, she announced she was hungry….. this is despite her eating before we left and her having snacks for the journey……. She got rude and argumentative, until we said she had to wait an hour. We stopped at services for food and to walk the dog, where she decided she needed to empty the car to find the hairbrush she didn’t bring.

When we arrived at the campsite, she refused to help put up the tent or unload the car, and when she was wanted to do was explore…… all fine…..but there’s no need for the attitude. All she wanted to do was wander around with the dog. There were sheep in nearby fields, so I specifically told her not to take the dog up there and not to wander off.

For the first two days, the dog was perfect. He was off-lead the entire time, ignored the sheep completely, and stayed close to us. He is well trained and has specific commands, all of which he immediately responds to.

The first night, she complained about sleeping alone in the tent, despite us explaining before we left, and when we initially invited her; that she and the dog would be in the tent while my husband and I slept in the car.

She complained about the food (BBQ), the ants, the spiders, the sheep poo, the midges….. everything that I had warned her about BEFORE WE LEFT.

The next morning, instead of getting dressed and helping us get ready for the day, she disappeared to the lake with the dog because she wanted to go swimming….. she didn’t ask and for a few mins we didn’t know where she or the dog was! We were literally trying to detach the tent, get dressed and leave for the day, and she simply ignored what we’d asked her to do….. and when she came back it was “oh sorry, I didn’t know” (and I’m like YEA YOU DID!)

She was fine in the local town and beach because it’s what SHE wanted to do. Usually we would have just hiked with the dog all day, but she complained about us wanting to do that too, so we didn’t.

The second night cooler and was windy and rainy. She was perfectly safe in the tent but decided she no longer wanted to sleep there at about 3 am, screaming (instead of just knocking the rear window of the car) and waking up the whole campsite…..she wanted to sleep in the car with us instead. So all three of us ended up squeezed into a Volkswagen Passat on an airbed.

Nobody could move. It was hot and she spent the next hour complaining that she was too hot and didn’t have enough room, that she was uncomfortable…….Eventually I completely lost my patience, got up, and tried to leave to sleep in the tent with the dog instead. Only then did my husband offer to move.

By the final morning, everyone was exhausted. I was trying not to loose my temper, but everything I asked her to do was “why can’t you? or “I’m not doing that”….. when I specifically to help us pack up her things and put everything in one area ready to load into the car, she again complained she didn’t have room for everything in her one bag abs threw it on the floor saying “well you do it then”……..

Instead, she wandered off again with the dog, whilst we were distracted.

The dog followed her towards the area where the sheep were. This time, he decided to chase them. The moment I shouted for him, he stopped immediately and came running back to me and i immediately put him in the car.

My stepdaughter came back saying she didn’t understand why he’d done it and that she’d been telling him to stop but he wasn’t listening.

At that point, I completely lost my temper and I really, REALLY shouted at her. I told her that farmers are legally entitled to protect their livestock and that the dog could have been shot dead because she ignored my repeated instructions. I had specifically told her not to go up that part of the camp. She kept blaming the dog and saying it wasn’t her fault.

The dog had behaved perfectly for two days. He had not been on a lead the entire time and if I saw his focus drifting, he was recalled and refocused on his ball or food or something else It was only when she wandered off up near the sheep because SHE wanted to “catch” one, that there was a problem.

The entire drive home, I barely spoke. I was upset, frustrated, and honestly resentful. My husband has told me I’m being too harsh and that I need to let it go and she understands.

My husband DID tell her off each with each incident (so did I in my interactions with her), so we arnt letting her get away with it.

My view is that she shouldn’t have been on the trip in the first place, that the whole point was for my husband and me to spend some time together, and that her behaviour throughout the weekend made what was supposed to be our anniversary trip stressful and unenjoyable and the incident with the dog just was the icing on the cake. She’s nearly 14. Big enough to follow instructions.

Safe to say she won’t be coming with me again. I’d rather not go than take her again. My husband thinks I’m being silly.

OP posts:
WonderingAndOverthinking · Yesterday 19:33

Teenager or not, throwing her bag at my feet and telling me to “do it then” would have been given very short shrift and that bag would have ended up in the woods. Rude litttle madam.

Bloodorangekangaroo · Yesterday 19:33

Your dh should have put his foot down and insisted it was an adult only get away for a start. He owes you another get away with no children! You have a dh issue here. Can you outline what parenting he is doing? I ask as you have outlined a lot and far too much parenting of a child that is not yours. Have strong words with him. He has a lot of making it up to you! Adults only means adults only no matter how big her tantrum is.

BippidyBoppety · Yesterday 19:33

RudolphTheReindeer · Yesterday 18:49

It sounds like she was a pain but I think you gave mixed messages re the dog insisting she keep him on a lead but you let him roam without one.

Agree. It's all "oh, the dog is well behaved for me" and absolutely no thought that the sheep will be anxious around a bloody dog. If you can see sheep the dog should be on a lead. Full stop. Doesn't matter if the dog behaves usually. Doesn't matter that a young teen didn't follow your instructions. You knew it could present a danger but you let her do it anyway. Dog <-> sheep = lead. = Yes you are the aresehole.

Taking, again, a young teenager - on a camping trip was bound to be hell on wheels. Expecting a young teenage girl to sleep on her own in a tent while adults sleep in the car is unreasonable. Expecting a teenager not to be expecting snacks and attention is unreasonable.

Your reaction is your gut reaction but it's to so many things that honestly, with thought, you could have anticipated.

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 19:34

Shodan · Yesterday 19:32

You said you still have a couples holiday booked for September though? So you'd have 7 nights alone together, I assume?

I can see her point to a degree- you get 2 holidays with her Dad, she gets none.

The rest of it though- no, you shouldn't have your dog off lead near sheep, no matter how good their recall. Yes, her father should have stepped up more. And yes, teenagers are quite often stroppy and difficult.

A 7 night holiday is different to a 2 night weekend away.
She had 2 holidays with us last year and the year before and the year before. We had no choice but to cancel the family one. We ended up moving the week we were meant to be away.

OP posts:
Blades2 · Yesterday 19:34

Why does your husband allow his child to be so awful?

missymousey · Yesterday 19:36

Unbelievable. Dog shouldn't have been off lead around sheep at all, you were totally irresponsible there and obviously DSD was too. Thank god it's past lambing time, if they'd been in lamb they'd have miscarried from the stress.

openended · Yesterday 19:36

I'd actually consider posting on the stepparenting section op. You might get some useful advice on how to get your dh to see that he needs to manage his child's behaviour better. I dont think yabu.

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 19:38

BippidyBoppety · Yesterday 19:33

Agree. It's all "oh, the dog is well behaved for me" and absolutely no thought that the sheep will be anxious around a bloody dog. If you can see sheep the dog should be on a lead. Full stop. Doesn't matter if the dog behaves usually. Doesn't matter that a young teen didn't follow your instructions. You knew it could present a danger but you let her do it anyway. Dog <-> sheep = lead. = Yes you are the aresehole.

Taking, again, a young teenager - on a camping trip was bound to be hell on wheels. Expecting a young teenage girl to sleep on her own in a tent while adults sleep in the car is unreasonable. Expecting a teenager not to be expecting snacks and attention is unreasonable.

Your reaction is your gut reaction but it's to so many things that honestly, with thought, you could have anticipated.

I disagree. The sheep were on the other end of the camp a good 10 minutes walk so you couldn’t really see them. SHE wandered off. She didn’t listen to. and SHE caused the issue with the sheep. He was there for 2 days and was the correct dog.

The sheep didn’t even know he was there. So your points moot.

She had snacks in the car? Or didn’t you read that bit.

the tens was attached to the back of the car and the boot was open. I could have touched her if I put my hand out, so she wasn’t alone 🙄

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YourPoliteTurtle · Yesterday 19:38

I wouldn't leave a 14 yo girl sleeping alone in a tent (even a boy to be honest) even if she wasn't my kid, that's awful!

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 19:40

BippityBopper · Yesterday 19:18

Stand your ground OP. Youre not being silly. Your step daughter was being bratty. If your DH can't see that, he's in for bigger problems ahead.

At best, I'd put her behaviour down to adjusting to you in her life, but that's not even relevant seeing as you've known her for yours and seem to have a close relationship with her. Some teenagers do go through this awful stage (awful to be around) but I wouldn't be backing down to your DH, especially seeing as she just didn't need to be there.

Adjusting to me in her life?

we have been together for 10 years nearly 11. How much more adjusting does she need?

OP posts:
JacknDiane · Yesterday 19:41

NewPinkJacket · Yesterday 18:31

That was a little long even with the AI help.

But what I've mostly taken from it is that your husband is one lazy fucker when it comes to parenting and doing things for his own child.

Stop being a doormat.

First post nails it as usual

CherryBlossom321 · Yesterday 19:41

It was an anniversary celebration - why didn’t you and your other half say no to her?

hourspassed · Yesterday 19:41

She sounds like hard work! Obviously, you've now realised that it wasn't a good idea to take her and your DH should have said no in the first place. She sounds very spoilt from what you have detailed in your post doing things that she wants to do and insisting on going with you even though she had already had holidays. Is she often like this and does your DH usually give in to her?

Not sure what you're hoping to 'get' from your post, perhaps you just needed to vent!

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 19:43

FiveGoMadInDorset · Yesterday 19:19

My take away from this is that you need to put your dog on a lead within sniffing distance of sheep, your dog does not have perfect recall if you need to use a ball to distract him, a bit sad no one reported you and you didn’t end up with a huge fine

The sheep were up at the other end of camp. You couldn’t see them. He was absolutely fine for 2 days until she didn’t listen and wandered off. He does have perfect recall…. He just doesn’t listen to her 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️ he listens to me because I’ve trained him.

she would have paid the fine out of her birthday and Christmas money.

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MyEasterBonnet · Yesterday 19:44

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 19:38

I disagree. The sheep were on the other end of the camp a good 10 minutes walk so you couldn’t really see them. SHE wandered off. She didn’t listen to. and SHE caused the issue with the sheep. He was there for 2 days and was the correct dog.

The sheep didn’t even know he was there. So your points moot.

She had snacks in the car? Or didn’t you read that bit.

the tens was attached to the back of the car and the boot was open. I could have touched her if I put my hand out, so she wasn’t alone 🙄

Well if the point is moot that the sheep didn’t know the dog was there, your whole point about the dog is moot as nothing happened and it didn’t get shot, so why are you mad at her for something that could have happened when you won’t accept responsibility yourself for something that could have happened?

Zoonosis · Yesterday 19:44

Blades2 · Yesterday 19:34

Why does your husband allow his child to be so awful?

Do you really think all you need to do to stop teenagers being annoying is to just "not allow them"? Have you ever met a teenager?

Barrenfieldoffucks · Yesterday 19:45

Tbh, I think 2 holidays to celebrate one anniversary was a bit OTT, but your call.

I think all of those little camping episodes sound like fairly normal teen behaviour, but you're detailing every slight because you didn't want her there.

You should have had your dog on a lead. I'm surprised the campsite didn't have a rule around it.

"Being made homeless" makes me feel you may be a little dramatic generally. Why did the family holiday get cancelled and not the adult only one?

MyAutumnCrow · Yesterday 19:45

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 19:33

I agree and this was my point to her. He spent 2 days not caring about the sheep and being the perfect dog until she didn’t listen and wander offs she’s not a toddler SO knew better.

She is 13.

You were irresponsible. You had spent two days setting the example to her of having a dog off-lead in the countryside in the proximity of sheep. As a consequence, your dog worried sheep.

Shouting at the child afterwards doesn’t rectify your own culpability in this, or your husband’s.

Barrenfieldoffucks · Yesterday 19:46

Where would you have slept if she wasn't there? I'd have expected the adults in the tent and the child in the car tbh.

almostfalling · Yesterday 19:47

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 18:46

Too long.
Teenagers can be very stroppy.
If she was your daughter she wouldn’t be in a separate tent.

If she was away with her mum and step dad I doubt the step dad would want to share a bed with her. I’m guessing it’s a 2 man tent

KTheGrey · Yesterday 19:48

At least you have evidence for next time that she should definitely go to her mother’s while you have your trip.

CaptainMyCaptain · Yesterday 19:49

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · Yesterday 18:33

Thank god you didn't go for a week, I've got a hair appointment on Friday

🤣
I couldn't read all that either.

LindorDoubleChoc · Yesterday 19:50

My thoughts:

  1. This isn't Reddit and your question, OP, should start with Am I Being Unreasonable as you have somehow found your way to Mumsnet which is wholly devoted to AIBU questions and 70%+ of everything ever discussed on here is put on the AIBU topic.
  2. Who the fuck has time to sit and read these great wall of text posts?
OnMidnightsLikeThis · Yesterday 19:50

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 19:43

The sheep were up at the other end of camp. You couldn’t see them. He was absolutely fine for 2 days until she didn’t listen and wandered off. He does have perfect recall…. He just doesn’t listen to her 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️ he listens to me because I’ve trained him.

she would have paid the fine out of her birthday and Christmas money.

OP you shouldn’t have mentioned the dog being off lead- posters will just jump on that and ignore anything else you post!! 🤣

Vaguelyclassical · Yesterday 19:51

No, not an asshole. But everybody seems to have been an arsehole.in various ways.