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Am I the Asshole for being upset that my stepdaughter came on our anniversary camping trip and ended up ruining the weekend?

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Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 18:27

I want to start by saying that I’m a stepmum, and I’ve been in my stepdaughter’s life for nearly 11 years. She was three years old when I met her, and she’ll be turning 14 in November.

I have a very good relationship with her mum, and I do a lot for my stepdaughter. I take her to and from school twice a week, cook for her, do her washing, clean her bedroom, look after her when she’s ill, and generally do all the things a parent would do. I also have an 18-year-old son. My stepdaughter comes everywhere with us—shopping trips, the cinema, family days out. We rarely get weekends to ourselves because she’s usually with us, and I’ve never had a problem with that because I genuinely love her.

Every year, my husband and I celebrate our anniversary with a trip to the Lake District. This year was supposed to be no different. However, earlier this year we found out we were going to be made homeless, so we had to cancel both a planned family holiday. All of our money had to go towards moving costs, deposits, rent, and setting up a new home.

We still have a couples holiday booked for September to celebrate ten years together and two years of marriage, but our usual anniversary trip to the Lake District had to be cancelled. Instead, we decided on a simple two-night camping trip. The plan was for it to be just me and my husband.

As soon as my stepdaughter found out, she was furious. She felt it was unfair that we were going away when she hadn’t had a holiday herself and insisted she should come too. (Despite her already going away with her mom twice this year, and another break planned in August) Honestly, I didn’t want her to come….. and we didn’t invite my son.

There is one day out of the entire year that I feel should just be for me and my husband. However, my husband thought it wouldn’t be a big deal and said we should take her.

So we did.

That meant buying an extra airbed, packing more food, and accommodating her gluten-free diet. On the day we left, I gave her a backpack and asked her to pack a couple of days’ worth of clothes, plus essentials like deodorant, a toothbrush, and a hairbrush.

She came downstairs with three overstuffed bags full of clothes that had simply been thrown in. I ended up unpacking everything, folding it properly, and repacking it all into one bag myself…… with her being argumentative and rude as I didn’t it, trying to explain it would all fit. I also had to remind her multiple times to get her toiletries…. Which she didn’t do, so had to use all of mine….. (which meant her diving into bags that were not hers, moving and loosing things whilst we were there, and generally making a mess with the bags)

Fifteen minutes into the journey, she announced she was hungry….. this is despite her eating before we left and her having snacks for the journey……. She got rude and argumentative, until we said she had to wait an hour. We stopped at services for food and to walk the dog, where she decided she needed to empty the car to find the hairbrush she didn’t bring.

When we arrived at the campsite, she refused to help put up the tent or unload the car, and when she was wanted to do was explore…… all fine…..but there’s no need for the attitude. All she wanted to do was wander around with the dog. There were sheep in nearby fields, so I specifically told her not to take the dog up there and not to wander off.

For the first two days, the dog was perfect. He was off-lead the entire time, ignored the sheep completely, and stayed close to us. He is well trained and has specific commands, all of which he immediately responds to.

The first night, she complained about sleeping alone in the tent, despite us explaining before we left, and when we initially invited her; that she and the dog would be in the tent while my husband and I slept in the car.

She complained about the food (BBQ), the ants, the spiders, the sheep poo, the midges….. everything that I had warned her about BEFORE WE LEFT.

The next morning, instead of getting dressed and helping us get ready for the day, she disappeared to the lake with the dog because she wanted to go swimming….. she didn’t ask and for a few mins we didn’t know where she or the dog was! We were literally trying to detach the tent, get dressed and leave for the day, and she simply ignored what we’d asked her to do….. and when she came back it was “oh sorry, I didn’t know” (and I’m like YEA YOU DID!)

She was fine in the local town and beach because it’s what SHE wanted to do. Usually we would have just hiked with the dog all day, but she complained about us wanting to do that too, so we didn’t.

The second night cooler and was windy and rainy. She was perfectly safe in the tent but decided she no longer wanted to sleep there at about 3 am, screaming (instead of just knocking the rear window of the car) and waking up the whole campsite…..she wanted to sleep in the car with us instead. So all three of us ended up squeezed into a Volkswagen Passat on an airbed.

Nobody could move. It was hot and she spent the next hour complaining that she was too hot and didn’t have enough room, that she was uncomfortable…….Eventually I completely lost my patience, got up, and tried to leave to sleep in the tent with the dog instead. Only then did my husband offer to move.

By the final morning, everyone was exhausted. I was trying not to loose my temper, but everything I asked her to do was “why can’t you? or “I’m not doing that”….. when I specifically to help us pack up her things and put everything in one area ready to load into the car, she again complained she didn’t have room for everything in her one bag abs threw it on the floor saying “well you do it then”……..

Instead, she wandered off again with the dog, whilst we were distracted.

The dog followed her towards the area where the sheep were. This time, he decided to chase them. The moment I shouted for him, he stopped immediately and came running back to me and i immediately put him in the car.

My stepdaughter came back saying she didn’t understand why he’d done it and that she’d been telling him to stop but he wasn’t listening.

At that point, I completely lost my temper and I really, REALLY shouted at her. I told her that farmers are legally entitled to protect their livestock and that the dog could have been shot dead because she ignored my repeated instructions. I had specifically told her not to go up that part of the camp. She kept blaming the dog and saying it wasn’t her fault.

The dog had behaved perfectly for two days. He had not been on a lead the entire time and if I saw his focus drifting, he was recalled and refocused on his ball or food or something else It was only when she wandered off up near the sheep because SHE wanted to “catch” one, that there was a problem.

The entire drive home, I barely spoke. I was upset, frustrated, and honestly resentful. My husband has told me I’m being too harsh and that I need to let it go and she understands.

My husband DID tell her off each with each incident (so did I in my interactions with her), so we arnt letting her get away with it.

My view is that she shouldn’t have been on the trip in the first place, that the whole point was for my husband and me to spend some time together, and that her behaviour throughout the weekend made what was supposed to be our anniversary trip stressful and unenjoyable and the incident with the dog just was the icing on the cake. She’s nearly 14. Big enough to follow instructions.

Safe to say she won’t be coming with me again. I’d rather not go than take her again. My husband thinks I’m being silly.

OP posts:
ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 20:12

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 18:46

Too long.
Teenagers can be very stroppy.
If she was your daughter she wouldn’t be in a separate tent.

It was the only tent available and OP and her DH were sleeping in the car to accommodate her. She invited herself on a holiday meant for just OP and her DH.

AluckyEllie · Yesterday 20:12

Okay ignoring the whole dog bit - she was being a brat. It’s also a bit weird, why on earth would she want to come on a two night camping trip with you both! I wouldn’t have thought of anything worse at 14🤣.

She sounds a bit entitled, which I mean we probably all were at this age but I’d just be careful it doesn’t go too far. Does she get away with too much/does your husband feel guilty that she goes between the two houses?

I definitely get why you are annoyed though. She gatecrashed a trip that wasn’t meant for her, was whiny and irritating and meant you wasted your time doing things you didn’t want to do.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 20:14

almostfalling · Yesterday 19:47

If she was away with her mum and step dad I doubt the step dad would want to share a bed with her. I’m guessing it’s a 2 man tent

I’m sure her mother would share with her. This sounds like a nightmare trip from the off, OP clearly wound up before they left, screaming at the child, radio silence, fuming on the journey home.
At least step DD has an excuse for her behaviour as a teenager.
What’s your excuse for helping ruin the trip OP?
Does she live with you FT? Hopefully not.

Girlsjustwannahavefunno1 · Yesterday 20:15

Think she needed to be told in the first place by you and your husband that she wasn't coming.
DH is being lazy by the sounds of it , sorry OP.
What do you mean by "made homeless" ...rarely could people afford 2 or 3 holidays if so...do you mean your landlord sold the property out from under you at short notice or something as this information would really help? I've not rtwt yet.

RudolphTheReindeer · Yesterday 20:16

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 19:57

I never said a thing about the lead. He was off the lead for the whole time we were there. She wandered off and he followed her. She was specifically told not to go up that end of the camp…. And did.

You didn't. I don't know where I got that from apologies. I'm still confused though as you say there were sheep in nearby fields, ddog ignored the sheep all weekend and stayed close, yet when you mention dsd and the dog chasing the sheep you say the sheep were a 10 min walk away.

Beachtastic · Yesterday 20:16

Some people are really shit at camping. Why on earth did she want to come with you???

AtIusvue · Yesterday 20:17

A 14 yr old girl should NOT have been in the tent by herself. She should have had the car that can lock from the inside.

The rest is boring teenage antics. The OP was looking for an excuse to be pissed off that she was coming ….thats pretty easy to do when it’s a 14yr old involved! They’re annoying. So you got your wish OP.

Girlsjustwannahavefunno1 · Yesterday 20:18

openended · Yesterday 19:25

He didn't parent effectively though did he? At 14 she is old enough to know that she doesn't have to go on every holiday with you. I would have gone over her head, spoken to her mum and said that this wasn't a family getaway but to celebrate your anniversary and your itinerary might not be something she would be interested in. Instead he just gave in to her demands and took her. He could and should have told her to stop behaving so rudely and that her behaviour was unacceptable. As soon as she decided she wasn't sleeping in the tent he should have gone back with the dog and slept there. Instead he let you all be cramped until he offered to go. Now he is telling you that you are being harsh. Fact is he isn't harsh enough. She is at an age where she is old enough to appreciate her behaviour has consequences but you do actually have to demonstrate that. He isn't doing that so her behaviour will just go unchecked.

On a side note I very much agree that I would not have left a child of her age to sleep alone in the tent, instead I would have expected her to stay in the car with one of you.

Edited

This^

Girlsjustwannahavefunno1 · Yesterday 20:19

corkscissorschalk · Yesterday 19:24

@Lollylucyclark101
I’m not a step mum, so I can’t fully appreciate the dynamic.
It sounds as if she behaved on the holiday as she is day in day out, only that it probably bothered you more because you didn’t want her camping with you and she made the experience less enjoyable.

In future, saying no to someone is kinder than saying yes, them not fulfilling expectations for whatever reason( in your case because she is a 14 year old teen) , and then you getting really pissed of at them.

I think this is common for people who really try hard at things, and always want to do their best. I’ve learnt that it’s best to say no before my patience runs out, otherwise I end up getting upset and frustrated.

And this^

pickalillyspooon · Yesterday 20:21

NewPinkJacket · Yesterday 18:31

That was a little long even with the AI help.

But what I've mostly taken from it is that your husband is one lazy fucker when it comes to parenting and doing things for his own child.

Stop being a doormat.

What do you mean by AI help, please?

MabelAnderson · Yesterday 20:22

Having had a scare years ago with my own dog, who normally walked calmly through fields of sheep, I would never have any dog loose around sheep again, ever. Apart from anything else the farmer doesn’t know that your dog is well trained, and a tourist with a loose dog is very stressful .
But anyway, re your step daughter. It all sounds fairly typical for 13. The mistake was letting her dictate what you do by allowing her to come on your anniversary trip. It was only two nights, camping. It’s not very different from you having an anniversary meal out together, or a day trip. I assume you would not have felt that you had to take your dc along if you went out for Valentines Day ?
It would have been better to go and tell her after the event.
As you did take her, I would have suggested that she brought a friend along. it would have helped shift the dynamic slightly.
I don’t really understand why your DH didn’t explain to her that it was a romantic walking trip for the two of you, and that couples sometimes want to do things just the two of them.
At 12 or 13 I got really upset with my parents who were going out to the theatre, I wanted to go as well, and they said no. I had a strop and my Dad sat me down and explained that sometimes he and Mum wanted to do special things just the two of them. They were having a stressful time with my Dad’s job, and he felt my Mum needed a treat and a nice night out.
Your DH needed to talk to her. He needs to sit her down now and explain that sometimes you might want a child free evening and that it’s normal for couples to want to be without their children for a night or two every now and again.

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 20:22

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 19:57

13/14 yo girls are knobs though. Would it have been ruined if it had been your son?

Yep. He’s ruined a couple of things in the past.

OP posts:
Solaitt · Yesterday 20:25

pinkyredrose · Yesterday 18:42

What a spoilt little bitch! She's a teenager ffs not 3! If she can't behave i wouldn't take her anywhere ever again.

Your husband needs to parent effectively not pander and make excuses.

Calling a child a “bitch” is absolutely dreadful.

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 20:28

RudolphTheReindeer · Yesterday 20:16

You didn't. I don't know where I got that from apologies. I'm still confused though as you say there were sheep in nearby fields, ddog ignored the sheep all weekend and stayed close, yet when you mention dsd and the dog chasing the sheep you say the sheep were a 10 min walk away.

I never said they were in a nearby field?

we were in a field. There were 4 sheep at the far end that wandered in from a neighbouring field. The field was massive. We were down the opposite end and if you had wanted to walk to the other end it would have taken 10 minutes. The dog was down in our little corner off lead with no issues for 2 days.

the dog didn’t wander off the daughter did and he followed her . We told her NOT TO WANDER OFF as there were sheep in the field and she ignored our instructions.
She wandered off literature as we were unhooking the tent off the back of the car and by that point t she was halfway up the field with the dog and he obviously went from there. I shouted his command and he came straight back at a run and she came back about 5 minutes later.

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Isittimeformynapyet · Yesterday 20:30

YourPoliteTurtle · Yesterday 19:38

I wouldn't leave a 14 yo girl sleeping alone in a tent (even a boy to be honest) even if she wasn't my kid, that's awful!

It wasn't a separate tent! How many times does the OP need to say it?!

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 20:30

AtIusvue · Yesterday 20:17

A 14 yr old girl should NOT have been in the tent by herself. She should have had the car that can lock from the inside.

The rest is boring teenage antics. The OP was looking for an excuse to be pissed off that she was coming ….thats pretty easy to do when it’s a 14yr old involved! They’re annoying. So you got your wish OP.

It was a CAR TENT. Attached to the rear of the vehicle with the boot lid open. No one was alone. If I shuck my hand out of the car it would have been on her head.

there was NOONE ELSE in the field.

OP posts:
C152 · Yesterday 20:31

No, you are definitely NOT the arsehole!

You knew it would be a shitshow (I suspect), your DH wanted to pretend everything would be fine and, what do you know, your stepdaughter behaved like a selfish, moody, stroppy teenager, as expected. (I imagine most teens are like that at least sometimes. I know I was! I wouldn't have been so careless around farm animals though.) And yes, she did totally ruin your anniversary trip, which I agree she should not have been invited on to begin with.

It's done now though, so try not to dwell on it. It was just a bad weekend, and particularly unlucky that it was meant to be an anniversary celebration. It's a lesson to go with your gut next time, and not to be guilted into believing children have to do absolutely everything with their parents. I do think it's worth your DH having a chat with her now you're all back, and explaining the impact her continued behaviour had on what was supposed to be a celebration. Also, when you're settled in a new home and have the spare cash, it would be worth it to have another weekend away, just you and your DH.

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 20:31

Beachtastic · Yesterday 20:16

Some people are really shit at camping. Why on earth did she want to come with you???

We have been camping for many years. I have no idea why she wanted to come.

OP posts:
Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 20:33

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 20:14

I’m sure her mother would share with her. This sounds like a nightmare trip from the off, OP clearly wound up before they left, screaming at the child, radio silence, fuming on the journey home.
At least step DD has an excuse for her behaviour as a teenager.
What’s your excuse for helping ruin the trip OP?
Does she live with you FT? Hopefully not.

It was a car tent attached to the rear of the vehicle so no one was alone.

i never ruined anything 🤣🤦🏻‍♀️

been camping plenty of times without either child and had a lovely time. Yes I shouted at her. That’s what you’re supposed to do as a parent.

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WeAreNotOk · Yesterday 20:35

If it was your own child, it wouldn't have happened. They wouldn't have been there and there would be no problems. You have a DH problem, he needs to put his foot down.

Makingmusicinmy50s · Yesterday 20:35

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · Yesterday 18:33

Thank god you didn't go for a week, I've got a hair appointment on Friday

😆😆😆

faithfultoGeorgeMichael · Yesterday 20:35

@Lollylucyclark101 I am a sheep farmer. You can NEVER take a dog in a field with sheep. It was not the dofs fault. DSD had already shown her mood and attitude so it was on YOU to keep the dog on a lead and safe. You are very very lucky your dog did not harm lambs at this time of year.

Regarding DSD she sounds like an entitled brat and she will be won't she, with 3 adults running around obeying her every word. Tidying her bedroom? Packing her bag? Moving in the night because she had a tantrum? You have made a rod for your own back here.

Ewock · Yesterday 20:35

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 19:57

I never said a thing about the lead. He was off the lead for the whole time we were there. She wandered off and he followed her. She was specifically told not to go up that end of the camp…. And did.

I have never been to a campsite where a dog can be off lead. And any we've looked always highlight dogs are to stay on leads. Some have specific dog areas which are fenced for dogs to be off lead.
I understand she didnt listen but you were unreasonable to have a dog off lead with sheep in the vicinity

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 20:35

THisbackwithavengeance · Yesterday 19:21

i think it’s wrong for you to say you’ll never take her away again. But equally I don’t understand why you and your DH didn’t say to her no you’re not coming with us on this occasion and have done with it.

I’m never taking her camping again 🤣🤦🏻‍♀️

we will have other family holidays.

OP posts:
Girlsjustwannahavefunno1 · Yesterday 20:36

You seem to want us to justify your actions because the whole thing was a disappointment.

I know nothing about dogs so I will skip that part.
Natural consequences, OP. The next time she doesn't pack...let her.
Let her stuff not fit in the car.
Let your DH tell you you should do it and tell him "well you know what to do then, she's your daughter". Walk off.
The next time she throws a fit because her stuff won't fit in the car say "ok then don't come if you won't talk to me in an acceptable way or pack you are nearly an adult ....so act like one "
& walk away. Calm , cold, firm.
Every time she pitches a fit, unless she is literally dying or hurting herself ...tell her to not speak to you like that please or I'm not speaking to you.
Tell her , no.
Praise the good , ignore her.
She will learn.
You have been trying to parent as you always have and teenagers are tw**s, it is in the JD.
Tell her no more often and tell your DH in no uncertain terms , that you , from now on , will be stepping back because of the way she has acted and him not respecting and minimising your needs (I suspect because you are a caring woman) & feelings. And you expect an apology for it from both of them . You might not get it from her. But I'd expect it from him.
All of this is said kindly .
Only you can justify your actions or have insight into what happened .
My view...communicate with them. Not us. Sky write it if you have to. This too shall pass like a storm in a teacup and she will become a less stroppy adult in about 10 years. Gods speed op.