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2 Tier Britain and Policing - Digwa

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Wellwhatnowbellaboo · Yesterday 09:12

Just heard Nigel talk about this on LBC following Digwa sentencing. Also saw the video... I'm shocked and so saddened. Not sure what my aibu is but I think we need to ban all religious weapons for a start . What do u think ? Are you in police ? Are you treating people differently?

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LuckyHazelFox · Today 18:33

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 18:28

Yup! It’s all so one sided and they have no logical explanation for the points you have mentioned above. It’s like it’s scripted and they get it from some leftie textbook.
See the post above. Was trying to have a sensible debate until they started with the “racist” shit! 🙄

Don't waste anymore time on them. Think about what kind of people, some being mothers, are goading on threads about an innocent white boy being murdered. It's outside their comfort zone as to who the victim is. They are also in the minority x

BIossomtoes · Today 18:34

Twisterlollies · Today 18:33

The fact that’s the only thing you’re zooming in on though makes you look pretty awful

Surely that’s the most important thing, isn’t it? Mark Nowak couldn’t have been much clearer.

CaesarAugusta · Today 18:34

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 09:42

So go back and read the news rather than quoting me! Ffs
Again just because you didn’t hear it, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen! Evidence suggests it did!

No, the evidence doesn't suggest that that was precisely the course of events. It would appear that you didn't check your facts before posting.

This is social media. People are allowed to ask reasonable questions. If you can't cope with that, perhaps MN is not for you.

TopPocketFind · Today 18:35

Twisterlollies · Today 18:33

The fact that’s the only thing you’re zooming in on though makes you look pretty awful

Ah well, I can live with that from you

At least I am not exploitng his death.

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 18:35

LuckyHazelFox · Today 18:33

Don't waste anymore time on them. Think about what kind of people, some being mothers, are goading on threads about an innocent white boy being murdered. It's outside their comfort zone as to who the victim is. They are also in the minority x

I agree. They are a disgrace. I can’t put into works how disgusting I find some of the posters, not just on this thread but on many others too.

ChunkyMonkey36 · Today 18:36

TopPocketFind · Today 18:16

Racists were rioting in Southampton yesterday, what do you suggest we should call neo nazis and white supremacists? Or anyone who uses far right rethoric?

People throwing stones, wheely binsand whatever else are thugs.

Concerned citizens, aren’t they?

Worried parents?

Average people with legitimate concerns?

Or….. racist thugs!

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 18:37

CaesarAugusta · Today 18:34

No, the evidence doesn't suggest that that was precisely the course of events. It would appear that you didn't check your facts before posting.

This is social media. People are allowed to ask reasonable questions. If you can't cope with that, perhaps MN is not for you.

Not sure what you don’t get. I have posted a link for you to read this morning. A link directly from the gov website. You obviously didn’t check any facts at all if you had to ask me about it. Not sure why you chose to ask me specifically but there you go….

MyLimeGuide · Today 18:37

TopPocketFind · Today 18:27

As if that excuses the far right jumping on this and ignoring Henry Nowak's family wishes

But does it excuse you with your 'this is an excuse for everyone to be racist lefty BS?' Evidently you think so!

MyLimeGuide · Today 18:40

TopPocketFind · Today 18:35

Ah well, I can live with that from you

At least I am not exploitng his death.

Neither is anyone else?! FFS people are saddened by this boy being murdered!

BackToLurk · Today 18:41

LuckyHazelFox · Today 18:33

Don't waste anymore time on them. Think about what kind of people, some being mothers, are goading on threads about an innocent white boy being murdered. It's outside their comfort zone as to who the victim is. They are also in the minority x

Think about what kind of people repeatedly ignore the wishes of the family of that innocent white boy. “We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension.” Surprised they haven't been accused of being 'woke'.

JasmineMac · Today 18:41

The focus on Nigel Farage is mere deflection, designed to suggest that a sizeable section (a majority, if polls are anything to go by) of the populace are actually in the minority in their malaise at the state of this country, and it's entirely ineffectual governance.

Here we all are, talking about Farage, instead of the disequilibrium that led to an innocent young man being presumed a liar. To a situation whereupon the police displayed a disbelief that it was even possible he'd been fatally wounded.

It doesn't matter what Farage says, or how he says it, the accusation against him will always be the same boring rhetoric, from the same bores, that hes this or that. Heaven forbid he might actually have a valid point.

CaesarAugusta · Today 18:43

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 09:43

So far we have had you quote me and claim you heard nothing of the sort on the video you watched. Okay!

Then you claimed you didn’t say something you said.

Then you quoted me on a response to you with a 2 line sentence and then after I responded to that you edited your post to add more detail, then claimed you had already edited it before I responded

Then I get the words “I’m making things up”

Again just fuck off with your gaslighting! I’m not getting sucked into it and you’re making yourself look silly at this point

Again, you are misrepresenting me. I did not say that I heard "nothing of the sort" on the video I watched. I said I did to hear that at the point you claimed it happened, and it would appear that you now acknowledge that it wasn't in fact said at that point.

I didn't "claim" that I edited my post before you responded. It was a stone cold fact, as demonstrated by the fact that the finalised version of my post appeared with your response.

You do indeed keep making things up. I don't know why. I asked a straightforward question, and subsequently made a general comment, and for some reason you have chosen to take both incredibly personally, and become seriously offensive about them. And the only response you can muster when hard facts are pointed out is to keep repeating your inaccuracies, make totally unfounded allegations of gaslighting, and swear. In a long time on MN, I have never come across such a concerted attempt to target a person and bully them off a thread and/or a topic. I have politely asked you to stop but you are plainly unable or unwilling to, despite the fact that you've already had some of your posts deleted. At the very least, please go away and read MN's rules.

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 18:44

JasmineMac · Today 18:41

The focus on Nigel Farage is mere deflection, designed to suggest that a sizeable section (a majority, if polls are anything to go by) of the populace are actually in the minority in their malaise at the state of this country, and it's entirely ineffectual governance.

Here we all are, talking about Farage, instead of the disequilibrium that led to an innocent young man being presumed a liar. To a situation whereupon the police displayed a disbelief that it was even possible he'd been fatally wounded.

It doesn't matter what Farage says, or how he says it, the accusation against him will always be the same boring rhetoric, from the same bores, that hes this or that. Heaven forbid he might actually have a valid point.

It’s those on the left who constantly quote Farage. And if it’s not farage it’s Tommy Robinson, along with a bit of the good old racist card thrown in. Someone making a random comment about reform being full of hatred and skin colour…. on a thread about the death of this poor young man. You couldn’t make it up

OneStarAwake · Today 18:48

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 18:44

It’s those on the left who constantly quote Farage. And if it’s not farage it’s Tommy Robinson, along with a bit of the good old racist card thrown in. Someone making a random comment about reform being full of hatred and skin colour…. on a thread about the death of this poor young man. You couldn’t make it up

It is perfectly legitimate to discuss Farage and Robinson. Both have used Henry Nowack's murder to further their agendas.

CaesarAugusta · Today 18:48

Whysnothingsimple · Today 13:36

Oh don’t be ridiculous- I’m afraid of the way people like my son are treated and portrayed. Do you only get a voice when your child is dead?

You font give a toss about the parents, you are just trying to emotionally manipulate people because the protests don’t fit your world view, so maybe you stop exploiting the parents.

Your world view is no longer accepted by the majority, people can protest to protect their children to ensure they don’t die in similar circumstances. Show some respect for the concerns many parents have

How precisely do last night's protests protect anyone's children? My white Anglo-Saxon sons certainly don't feel any safer as a result.

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 18:49

CaesarAugusta · Today 18:43

Again, you are misrepresenting me. I did not say that I heard "nothing of the sort" on the video I watched. I said I did to hear that at the point you claimed it happened, and it would appear that you now acknowledge that it wasn't in fact said at that point.

I didn't "claim" that I edited my post before you responded. It was a stone cold fact, as demonstrated by the fact that the finalised version of my post appeared with your response.

You do indeed keep making things up. I don't know why. I asked a straightforward question, and subsequently made a general comment, and for some reason you have chosen to take both incredibly personally, and become seriously offensive about them. And the only response you can muster when hard facts are pointed out is to keep repeating your inaccuracies, make totally unfounded allegations of gaslighting, and swear. In a long time on MN, I have never come across such a concerted attempt to target a person and bully them off a thread and/or a topic. I have politely asked you to stop but you are plainly unable or unwilling to, despite the fact that you've already had some of your posts deleted. At the very least, please go away and read MN's rules.

You have politely asked me to stop yet keep coming back to argue with me? Okay! I haven’t even read the rest of what you have writren because you are becoming boring now. You decided to quote me last night, I responded! Don’t quote people and try to make out that they are lying then you won’t get that sort of response. That’s all I’m saying on the matter.

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 18:51

OneStarAwake · Today 18:48

It is perfectly legitimate to discuss Farage and Robinson. Both have used Henry Nowack's murder to further their agendas.

Nah you lefties take it to the extreme and quote him, Tommy Robinson and the word ‘racist’ on every single thread about similar topics…. To the point it’s lost its effectiveness and we are sick of it. Nobody can take your “legitimate” discussions seriously anymore!

NovemberMorn · Today 18:51

JasmineMac · Today 18:41

The focus on Nigel Farage is mere deflection, designed to suggest that a sizeable section (a majority, if polls are anything to go by) of the populace are actually in the minority in their malaise at the state of this country, and it's entirely ineffectual governance.

Here we all are, talking about Farage, instead of the disequilibrium that led to an innocent young man being presumed a liar. To a situation whereupon the police displayed a disbelief that it was even possible he'd been fatally wounded.

It doesn't matter what Farage says, or how he says it, the accusation against him will always be the same boring rhetoric, from the same bores, that hes this or that. Heaven forbid he might actually have a valid point.

I don't think I have ever mentioned Farage previously, on any thread.

For me, it's the fact that he pompously 'Addressed the Nation', to use the horrendous event of this boys murder, into a party political broadcast for Reform.
Whether you agree with his policies or not....that was unforgivable.

Twisterlollies · Today 18:53

TopPocketFind · Today 18:32

That is still no excuse for the violence in Southampton

People seem to think Palestine march violence and criminal damage is acceptable though and just part and parcel of lively processions?

MyLimeGuide · Today 18:54

OneStarAwake · Today 18:48

It is perfectly legitimate to discuss Farage and Robinson. Both have used Henry Nowack's murder to further their agendas.

Politians are renowned for using current affairs and news to promote their viewpoints. Its called politics. Its not a new thing ALL politicians do it.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 18:55

BackToLurk · Today 18:41

Think about what kind of people repeatedly ignore the wishes of the family of that innocent white boy. “We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension.” Surprised they haven't been accused of being 'woke'.

Think about the coincidence that Lee Rigby's parents said the same thing. You think that the wider community is first and foremost in their minds when their sons have been savagely murdered. Police liason officers and police media take their instructions from hierarchy in such controversial high profile cases. Also, this repeated reference to Henry's parents wishes when so many posters have shown zero respect for this case, including addressing Henry by his surname. Downplaying his murder and instead being hellbent in saying this is nothing to do with race. All starmer's tactics today as well.Lazy, emotional blackmail guilt tripping bollocks.

Gloriia · Today 18:55

BackToLurk · Today 18:41

Think about what kind of people repeatedly ignore the wishes of the family of that innocent white boy. “We do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension.” Surprised they haven't been accused of being 'woke'.

Protesting about the actions or inactions of some useless police officers is not creating division and hate. Without a doubt procedure needs to change if as soon as an alleged 'racial attack' is reported the plods go in ignoring all signs of catastrophic injury to the alleged perpetrator.

BackToLurk · Today 18:55

MyLimeGuide · Today 18:54

Politians are renowned for using current affairs and news to promote their viewpoints. Its called politics. Its not a new thing ALL politicians do it.

And when they do people are entitled to comment on it. Or is Farage somehow beyond criticism?

Seend · Today 18:56

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 17:35

No you’re just gaslighting reform supporters and I’m not accepting this shit! The racist card being pulled by idiots like you is losing its effect because you’ve all used it to death. Nobody cares about this meaningless gaslighting shit anymore as a way to try and silence them! Maybe you should provide evidence that reform is about all skin colour! Especially when they have people like Zia Yusuf and Suella Braverman as members!

When people turn a thread about a victim of a crime into a Nigel Farage/ far right/ racist fest and accuse innocent people of being racist and constantly mention about a party they support hating people of a certain skin colour then it does make wonder if the people spewing this bullshit are in fact closet racists themselves! It’s a bit like when cheaters accuse their spouse of cheating because they’re guilty themselves, like they are projecting their own thoughts and behaviour onto others. I can’t think of any other explanation for this pathetic lunacy and constant attempts at gaslighting people.

How would you feel if reform voters started calling all Labour voters far left, racist against white people thugs every time you created a thread about a crime?? It’s pathetic!

You do love an exclamation mark, don’t you!!!!

Btw, I am yet to meet someone who uses the term ‘race card’ who isn’t racist. I think it’s a qualifying characteristic.

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 18:56

Twisterlollies · Today 18:53

People seem to think Palestine march violence and criminal damage is acceptable though and just part and parcel of lively processions?

Oh no that’s all ok, because it suits a certain one sided agenda. Didn’t you realise it’s only far right racist violent thugs who do this and violent racist thugs of other extremes don’t exist anywhere else.
Your point is far too logical for them to comprehend

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