2 Tier Britain and Policing - Digwa

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Just heard Nigel talk about this on LBC following Digwa sentencing. Also saw the video... I'm shocked and so saddened. Not sure what my aibu is but I think we need to ban all religious weapons for a start . What do u think ? Are you in police ? Are you treating people differently?

They ignored him and did not do anything to attend to him - whether or not it would have made a difference medically isn't the point, they should have done everything in their power to assist and they did not. In my view it is negligence. Minimising their failure isn't helpful in my view because we shouldn't do anything that helps this into a culture war situation (which it already has, that horse has already bolted out the door)
Those who compare this to George Floyd should also take another look at what happened back then: the cop sat on him for 8 long minutes and deliberately choked him to death. That was murder.
Here it's negligence. Still awful though.

Perhaps Henry would have likely died anyway, but the officers actions meant he died in great distress. He must have been terrified.

Come on now, he was hardly upright having a fluent conversation. He was gasping whilst begging for help. The colour of his hands indicated massive blood loss and they obviously could see his face colour too which i bet was equally cyanotic. They should've called for immediate medical help not faffed on cuffing a completely incapacitated individual.

The first comment... Just about sums up what is wrong with the UK. What a fool you are.

But it's not a weapon and Sikhs have clearly stated that it's not to be used as a weapon. Digwa tried to use this wrongly in his defence.

The issue with this case is the police not doing their jobs. Why on earth did they feel the need to handcuff a dying man who was not about to run!

Let's not make this about religion when it should be about inadequate policing.

When young kids in our schools are being tought that black people cannot be racist towards white people, but the reverse can be true....what can you expect?

The killer and his family made it about religion.

“As the KC for the prosecution summed up in court: This is not a case about Sikhism. This is not a case about racism. This is a case about murder.”Henry's dad.

The likes of Farage will use this case to create further divisions. This is about murder of a young man (who happened to be white) by another young man (who happened to be Sikh).

It’s very much about the last moments for an 18 year old student who was stabbed, handcuffed, dragged along the ground, dismissed and accused.

The law now needs to be changed say that carrying weapons for religious purposes is illegal. I’m surprised there’s not been more on this - a two tier law for everyone to see. It’s all very well saying Sikh religion is peaceful etc however don’t all religions say that but it seems we have a lot of problems, many of which are due to religion.

I don’t give a shit what the Sikhs have stated. Nobody is above the law and should be permitted to carry a blade which can potentially be used as a weapon.

No, Nigel is making a big fuss because the perpetrator is the wrong skin colour. He said fuck all about the 3 boys who escaped a custodial sentence for raping 2 young girls - in the same county as this crime too!

He's very picky about what he gets outraged about.

He wouldn’t have been stabbed if Digwa hadn’t had a knife though so this is about the UKs (misguided) tolerance of these medieval religions.

I agree.
The Sikh religion is peaceful but doesn’t means that individuals all are.

I don't believe you would normally agree with the PP. You called him "Nigel" like he was your mate when he's the greatest threat to our democracy since WW2.

FFS this is only yet another example of male violence!

Nothing really to do with race, religion or anything else.

Just male violence - because they WANT TO

They aren’t (currently) above the law in carrying one. It’s legal.
Digwa carried a second blade (which I don’t think is legal)under the name of religion but he was actually just a violent thug obsessed with knives.
In haven’t heard of a practicing Skih using the legal version to harm someone.

He would have probably had an axe, or other lethal weapons he has been charged with (today) that he carried around in public places.
I don't think religion had anything to do with this murder.

It’s more than that, it’s the lack of dignity and treatment of Henry in his last moments.

Sikhs are allowed to carry a kirpan (a ceremonial sword or dagger) as part of their religious faith.

As I have said (multiple times). Nobody should be permitted to carry a weapon - we should all be treated equally. Women can’t even carry pepper spray.

I know - I said that.

Henry Nowak’s family have asked for his son’s murder not to be used to create division, hatred and tension. Farage should be ashamed.

This is a terrible thing to happen and honestly I’m not sure how all this helps. Tell your MP if you want the law changed.

I don’t think anyone here is creating hatred. There are plenty of non white posters who seem to have a better grasp of the crux of the issue than the white ones. It cannot be that any attempt to curtail certain cultures or groups having exemptions from the law is ‘hatred’. There is zero reason for any person to be carrying a blade unless for a demonstrated legal purpose.

He is making a big fuss! I should think so. This case affects every single person in this country. The obsession with Farage is so unfathomable. He's made more popular by the very people who despise him.

We are way beyond that. The rise of Reform is stop the rot that's set in our criminal justice system.