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AIBU to think Nicola Sturgeon is deflecting criticism with sexism claims?

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Dawnintheageofaquariams · 31/05/2026 18:53

Nicola Sturgeon is cosplaying the victim, claiming that her being questioned over her ex husband's criminality is anti-women.
Is she seriously playing the woman card, when she actively deflected any criticism or investigation into SNP finances?

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CurdinHenry · 31/05/2026 20:46

AnonymityAnonymity · 31/05/2026 20:15

So you are saying that the Criminal Justice System in Scotland is corrupt?
That is some accusation.

Sounds like you are a believer in Conspiracy Theories.

Sounds like you don't understand about basic philosophical principles.

It is not sufficient that justice is done - it must be seen to be done.

Zebrah · 31/05/2026 20:47

PropertyD · 31/05/2026 20:33

So why didn’t she do anything? The red flags were flapping unless she thought she was untouchable?

Everything anyone connected with the Indy movement does you have to see through the lens of Weesht for Indy.

Think sNHS is throwing unaffordable pay rises around? Weesht for Indy.

Terrible ferry service ruining tourism on the isles? Weesht for Indy.

Dont want rapists like Isla Bryson in your single sex spaces? Weesht for Indy.

Soaring violence in Scottish schools? Weesht for Indy.

No one whatsoever is allowed to voice the many failings of the SNP as it harms the Indy cause. Weesht for Indy. Cover up the many glaring disasters and pretend we’re running this country well and we’ll get Indy.

Theres no way anyone within the SNP would raise their voices to suggest the SNP were embezzling funds unless it was so obvious they couldn’t not, which is when Jo Cherry and Douglas Chapman stood down.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 31/05/2026 20:47

CoraLdn · 31/05/2026 20:43

Just going on what I saw today on bbc. I don’t know, but what she was saying there made sense to me. If there was a motorhome not on my MIL’s drive, but somewhere between her and a neighbour’s house, I’d also think it’s not hers and doubt I’d ask.
My radar is telling me she was genuine but could be totally wrong.

I have a bridge to sell you. 😂😂

FaceIt · 31/05/2026 20:48

YANBU
She was a politician, of course she’s deflecting, it’s a very crucial skill.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 31/05/2026 20:50

AnonymityAnonymity · 31/05/2026 20:15

So you are saying that the Criminal Justice System in Scotland is corrupt?
That is some accusation.

Sounds like you are a believer in Conspiracy Theories.

Funny isn’t it how Murrell’s trial was originally scheduled for before put was back until after the election…

EmeraldShamrock000 · 31/05/2026 20:50

It’s bad enough that she fooled the police with her alibi but now she’s dragging it out trying to gaslight and convince the public. The chances of her not knowing the truth is very slim.

AnonymityAnonymity · 31/05/2026 20:50

CurdinHenry · 31/05/2026 20:46

Sounds like you don't understand about basic philosophical principles.

It is not sufficient that justice is done - it must be seen to be done.

So you mean Nicola should have been charged with something and put on trial regardless of whether there was any evidence or not just to satisfy the people who are now baying for her blood?

I don't think the justice system is supposed to work like that.

And what a waste of public money as well.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 31/05/2026 20:52

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 31/05/2026 20:50

Funny isn’t it how Murrell’s trial was originally scheduled for before put was back until after the election…

Quite. It’s certainly not fit for purpose (I work in it).

CurdinHenry · 31/05/2026 20:52

AnonymityAnonymity · 31/05/2026 20:50

So you mean Nicola should have been charged with something and put on trial regardless of whether there was any evidence or not just to satisfy the people who are now baying for her blood?

I don't think the justice system is supposed to work like that.

And what a waste of public money as well.

I mean that it seems very likely that Nicola got away with something that nobody else would have. And now she needs to spend the rest of her life under that cloud.

Naunet · 31/05/2026 21:00

AnonymityAnonymity · 31/05/2026 20:15

So you are saying that the Criminal Justice System in Scotland is corrupt?
That is some accusation.

Sounds like you are a believer in Conspiracy Theories.

Oh totally, the police have never been known to turn a blind eye to the criminal actions of the rich and powerful, have they?

AnonymityAnonymity · 31/05/2026 21:01

I would be really interested to know whether the vitriol spouting pp on this thread are actually residents in Scotland . You know, those people who actually vote for the politicians here .

It's absolutely amazing me the level of hatred being levelled at Nicola and I can't help but feel the majority of it is coming from pp who are enjoying just getting stuck into her for the sake of it rather than those who are part of the actual Scottish electorate.

I would also be interested as whether some pp are Scottish Labour supporters because Scottish Labour's pathological hatred of the SNP is well known and I'm sure they are taking great delight in Nicola's current situation.

LaliqueSaltGrinder · 31/05/2026 21:02

AnonymityAnonymity · 31/05/2026 19:05

What is this with all the Nicola bashing?

She was investigated thoroughly, and very publicly, by the police. No charges have been brought against her. The focus should be on Murrell, not on his ex wife.

As has been pointed out the first minister for the first 5 years of Murrell's tenure if the job was Salmond. Why isn't he being pilloried in relation to Murrell's criminality?

Salmond is dead.

Sturgeon is being "bashed" because she is up to her neck in it and her explanations don't hold water.

Jamesblonde2 · 31/05/2026 21:03

AnonymityAnonymity · 31/05/2026 19:05

What is this with all the Nicola bashing?

She was investigated thoroughly, and very publicly, by the police. No charges have been brought against her. The focus should be on Murrell, not on his ex wife.

As has been pointed out the first minister for the first 5 years of Murrell's tenure if the job was Salmond. Why isn't he being pilloried in relation to Murrell's criminality?

And how often do the Police get it right……or can’t find the evidence……?

Zebrah · 31/05/2026 21:03

CurdinHenry · 31/05/2026 20:52

I mean that it seems very likely that Nicola got away with something that nobody else would have. And now she needs to spend the rest of her life under that cloud.

I can see the likes of Sean Clerkin bringing a civil case against all three of them (Murrell, Sturgeon and Beattie) to get the money back that he donated and being successful. In civil cases the balance of probabilities is considered rather than ‘beyond reasonable doubt’.

LaliqueSaltGrinder · 31/05/2026 21:06

PillsBox · 31/05/2026 19:17

So many MNetters making her responsible for this man’s crimes.

She’s right, it’s bloody sexist.

No you don't understand. It's not JUST that she was married to him and apparently did not question the new Jag and the £100k motorhome on the MIL's driveway.

It's ALSO that she was First Minister and signed off the accounts. She either turned a blind eye to the fact the figures didn't add up, or just ignored the matter. There is footage of her telling other party members not to ask questions. Leaving aside the fact that it was her husband embezzling the funds, she was incompetent and negligent by signing off accounts she didn't understand and was not asking basic questions like "hang on, why is there a motorhome on the balance sheet"?

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 31/05/2026 21:08

AnonymityAnonymity · 31/05/2026 21:01

I would be really interested to know whether the vitriol spouting pp on this thread are actually residents in Scotland . You know, those people who actually vote for the politicians here .

It's absolutely amazing me the level of hatred being levelled at Nicola and I can't help but feel the majority of it is coming from pp who are enjoying just getting stuck into her for the sake of it rather than those who are part of the actual Scottish electorate.

I would also be interested as whether some pp are Scottish Labour supporters because Scottish Labour's pathological hatred of the SNP is well known and I'm sure they are taking great delight in Nicola's current situation.

Yes I’m Scottish. I was born here and lived here all my life. I’m just not a gullible mug.

Choux · 31/05/2026 21:08

So he bought the motorhome using public funds and then put it on his mother’s drive. Nicola apparently never went in it or saw it. Presumably if she ever visited her 92 year old MIL she thought it belonged to the next door neighbour.

But WHY did Murrell want or need a £125k motorhome at his mother’s house which he never used with his wife? Where did he take it? And who with? I did see a suggestion it was a lavender marriage and that it was his ‘entertaining space’ and that many of the other items bought with SNP funds were not for his home but were gifts. If that is true then that might explain why she knew so little. They were basically living separate lives and she was not aware of the spending.

AIBU to think Nicola Sturgeon is deflecting criticism with sexism claims?
Zebrah · 31/05/2026 21:09

AnonymityAnonymity · 31/05/2026 21:01

I would be really interested to know whether the vitriol spouting pp on this thread are actually residents in Scotland . You know, those people who actually vote for the politicians here .

It's absolutely amazing me the level of hatred being levelled at Nicola and I can't help but feel the majority of it is coming from pp who are enjoying just getting stuck into her for the sake of it rather than those who are part of the actual Scottish electorate.

I would also be interested as whether some pp are Scottish Labour supporters because Scottish Labour's pathological hatred of the SNP is well known and I'm sure they are taking great delight in Nicola's current situation.

The majority of people in Scotland aren’t SNP voters though are they? The majority of people in Scotland didn’t even vote for Indy supporting parties in the latest election. The majority of people in Scotland are heartily sick of the SNP handing out benefits to all and sundry, and all and sundry loyally voting for the SNP and nothing EVER gets better here.

Schools and the SNHS are so much worse than rUK. Ferries are an embarrassment. The Scottish government seems to openly loathe any form of business. The quality of SNP politicians are DIRE and yet the hard of thinking keep voting for them. We’re so sick of them. So sick. They get £2k extra for every inhabitant of Scotland than they raise in taxes and it’s all just pissed up the wall. With that cash they could run a successful government, impress people with their competence. Win people over to Indy. But no, they’re just too clueless.

Election time. The needle returns to the start of the song and we all sing along like before.

LaliqueSaltGrinder · 31/05/2026 21:10

I'm Scottish, lived here 54 years. It's a very SNP-like cop out to suggest that anyone criticising the Dear Leader is either English, or a "Toary", or both.

Zebrah · 31/05/2026 21:12

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 31/05/2026 21:08

Yes I’m Scottish. I was born here and lived here all my life. I’m just not a gullible mug.

I do think there’s a lot of ‘Nicola Bashing’ because the standard of intelligence of your average Mumsnet contributor means that they’re way too clever to fall for her shite. You have to take that into consideration. We’re not idiots, and she’s so patronising thinking we’ll believe her obvious shite!

YellingAway · 31/05/2026 21:13

I am quite angry that she is trying to use sexism as a deflection. She ruled the SNP with an iron fist, dissent was not tolerated which perhaps led to her ignoring the massive red flags raised by her own party.

This is the woman who did not include misogyny as a hate crime when she had opportunity to do so and now she is no longer in a protected position of power is feeling the full force of it.

This is the woman who stated, “Just because Alex Salmond was acquitted by a jury doesn’t mean the behaviour he was accused of didn’t happen”

And now she is on the receiving end of similar sentiment.

She had a position of power to really help feminism but in reality did as much to put protections in place as Margaret Thatcher did - for those who doubt this, remember she couldn’t even admit that the rapist, Isla Bryson was a man.

Barrello · 31/05/2026 21:14

The police investigated, the only charged one person with wrongdoing. End of story as far as I’m concerned.

If they thought she was in on it they’d have charged her too.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 31/05/2026 21:15

Barrello · 31/05/2026 21:14

The police investigated, the only charged one person with wrongdoing. End of story as far as I’m concerned.

If they thought she was in on it they’d have charged her too.

They tried to. They sent a report to the crown office. Nicola’s pal decided not to charge her.

ByGraptharsHammer · 31/05/2026 21:16

She is nauseating. What kind of treatment did she meet out to women when she was in charge? Her decisions damaged the safety of women in Scotland.

Sexism is a thing when it hurts her. Contemptible

LaliqueSaltGrinder · 31/05/2026 21:16

Barrello · 31/05/2026 21:14

The police investigated, the only charged one person with wrongdoing. End of story as far as I’m concerned.

If they thought she was in on it they’d have charged her too.

Does that mean we're not allowed to question her version of events then? Just because the PF has decided there is not enough evidence for a prosecution?