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AIBU to think Nicola Sturgeon is deflecting criticism with sexism claims?

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Dawnintheageofaquariams · 31/05/2026 18:53

Nicola Sturgeon is cosplaying the victim, claiming that her being questioned over her ex husband's criminality is anti-women.
Is she seriously playing the woman card, when she actively deflected any criticism or investigation into SNP finances?

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SayWhatty · 31/05/2026 19:48

AnonymityAnonymity · 31/05/2026 19:05

What is this with all the Nicola bashing?

She was investigated thoroughly, and very publicly, by the police. No charges have been brought against her. The focus should be on Murrell, not on his ex wife.

As has been pointed out the first minister for the first 5 years of Murrell's tenure if the job was Salmond. Why isn't he being pilloried in relation to Murrell's criminality?

I think the concern is more whether she adequately ensured finances etc were transparent. Also how she responded when concerns were raised. The spectrum of wrongdoing isn't limited to criminality.

Zebrah · 31/05/2026 19:52

She was a dire politician who has run Scotland into the ground. If you think the ‘tax middle earners til the pips squeak and give all of the money away in lax benefits while public services fail’ is a UK thing, it’s like that on steroids here. I loathe the way she’s lauded by idiots like Alistair Campbell who conveniently live in England and don’t have to suffer the after affects of her shite government.

truffleruffle · 31/05/2026 19:54

AnonymityAnonymity · 31/05/2026 19:05

What is this with all the Nicola bashing?

She was investigated thoroughly, and very publicly, by the police. No charges have been brought against her. The focus should be on Murrell, not on his ex wife.

As has been pointed out the first minister for the first 5 years of Murrell's tenure if the job was Salmond. Why isn't he being pilloried in relation to Murrell's criminality?

I agree I have a friend who suffered because of her husband’s condition actions. She trusted him and on hindsight shouldn’t have.
Also would the other party leaders know everything about the finance donations to their parties. Peoples purchases are not always delivered to their homes ie could the hairdryers been delivered to another address. Burrell stored the motor home at his mother’s home.

truffleruffle · 31/05/2026 19:55

Zebrah · 31/05/2026 19:52

She was a dire politician who has run Scotland into the ground. If you think the ‘tax middle earners til the pips squeak and give all of the money away in lax benefits while public services fail’ is a UK thing, it’s like that on steroids here. I loathe the way she’s lauded by idiots like Alistair Campbell who conveniently live in England and don’t have to suffer the after affects of her shite government.

They’re all shite. Look at the mess the UK is in.

darksideofthetoon · 31/05/2026 19:59

WhatAMarvelousTune · 31/05/2026 19:28

He’s dead, and wasn’t married to him?

I don’t think it’s sexism that drives it. I think that if Victoria Starmer was found to have embezzled Labour Party funds (I’m aware she doesn’t work for the Labour Party), people would have the same attitude towards KS as they do to NS.

Murell’s financial deception started in 2013 and Salmond resigned in 2014 after the Yes campaign defeat. So about a 1 year overlap. With Sturgeon it was 7 years plus she was literally married to and living with the man.

It’s well documented that Salmond told Sturgeon to get rid of Murrell as CEO due to a conflict of interest but Sturgeon didn’t listen. And now she says, ‘Aye, mibbie it wisnae such a guid idea after a’’

Yeah, no shit!

Naunet · 31/05/2026 20:01

Oh well Nic, just say you're a man and it'll all be ok, because that's how it works, isn't it love?

CurdinHenry · 31/05/2026 20:01

AnonymityAnonymity · 31/05/2026 19:05

What is this with all the Nicola bashing?

She was investigated thoroughly, and very publicly, by the police. No charges have been brought against her. The focus should be on Murrell, not on his ex wife.

As has been pointed out the first minister for the first 5 years of Murrell's tenure if the job was Salmond. Why isn't he being pilloried in relation to Murrell's criminality?

She was investigated by a criminal justice system that is headed up by her pal, Dorothy Bain, whom she appointed to the job.

Zebrah · 31/05/2026 20:01

truffleruffle · 31/05/2026 19:55

They’re all shite. Look at the mess the UK is in.

Agreed, there are a lot of shite politicians in the UK. In Scotland they seem especially bad. Things that piss me off:

The claim that the average worker is taxed less than in the rUK. They are. By £40 a year maximum. Anyone that earns over £43k is taxed at 42% though as they’re so rich.

Stamp duty (an incredibly economically damaging tax - kills growth) is double the rest of the UK. Such a stupid thing to do.

Indy Scotland would be an economic basket case for years. The SNP know it. Everyone else knows it. The SNP will never admit to it, will never give an economic estimate of Indy even in the vaguest of terms and so they let their knuckledragging Indy supporters think it will be sweetness and light when it would be fairly apocalyptical, esp to those on benefits. It’s so deceitful.

Dawnintheageofaquariams · 31/05/2026 20:08

tilypu · 31/05/2026 19:14

I'm going to go with the results of the police investigation over the machinations of people with a chip on their shoulder for whatever reason.

Plenty of women discover their husbands have been up to things they shouldn't have been, long after the fact. Plenty of women that weren't working as long hours as she had to in order to keep a country running.

Did she know? No idea, but I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, especially given that she faced an investigation and was cleared.

The question is: why do you doubt the police?

David Carrick?

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darksideofthetoon · 31/05/2026 20:10

PillsBox · 31/05/2026 19:17

So many MNetters making her responsible for this man’s crimes.

She’s right, it’s bloody sexist.

Nobody is disputing her husband’s guilt and wrongdoing. But at the very least, Sturgeon has some serious questions to answer. She is deflecting as always to paint herself as a victim.

This was not a wee house wife whose husband was up to no good. She was his boss and had ultimate responsibility for the SNPs finances and accounts. She literally has training in this as a solicitor.

How could she not notice 600K going missing?

Why did she not notice the campervan on the books?

Where is the other 200K?

Why did she front a campaign for money to be ring fenced but didn’t question why it just vanished? Does she not understand what ring fenced means?

Why did she not think something was wrong when other finance people in the party resigned as they felt the books were off?

The police are not perfect and there’s a lot more to come out in the wash here. Only an imbecile could believe Sturgeon’s version of events.

She needs to face trial on the charge of reset.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 31/05/2026 20:11

PropertyD · 31/05/2026 19:46

I don’t necessarily agree. She should have had it pointed out to her as an area that needed looking at. As her husband had put the figures together she might have felt she could just sign them off. What the excuses were from the others is another matter.

You don’t work in finance do you? The NEC WERE raising questions about the accounts. The treasurer refused to sign them off. There were plenty of red flags that something was wrong. Year she viciously shut them down.

Dawnintheageofaquariams · 31/05/2026 20:12

If she were an innocent woman, wronged by a man, fair play.
But she was the leader of a country that couldn't control her own staff.
That's not sexist that is just incompetent management.

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UniquePinkSwan · 31/05/2026 20:13

I don't believe a word that comes out her mouth. I despise her. She has ruined Scotland

AnonymityAnonymity · 31/05/2026 20:15

CurdinHenry · 31/05/2026 20:01

She was investigated by a criminal justice system that is headed up by her pal, Dorothy Bain, whom she appointed to the job.

So you are saying that the Criminal Justice System in Scotland is corrupt?
That is some accusation.

Sounds like you are a believer in Conspiracy Theories.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 31/05/2026 20:16

Triskellion75 · 31/05/2026 19:46

She wasn't just 'the wife' though, she was leader of the party he was embezzling. People resigned because she refused to accept there was something dodgy going on, despite multiple complaints. She's on camera belligerently shutting down any notion of the party's finances being anything but healthy.

Frankly, after trying to put an actual rapist in a women's prison she can fuck off with the 'I'm a victim of sexism' shit. And I say all this as someone who used to really admire her.

All of this. Apart from the last sentence.

TunnocksOrDeath · 31/05/2026 20:17

On the SNP side she should bear some responsibility over the failure of governance, but appears to have brushed off the accusations of impropriety as political pot-shots, which was very poor judgement on her part.
I believe her that she didn't know about his spending though - the marital home was bought for just £228k in 2005 and they were both being paid over 100k per annum, and have no children, so we can safely assume each of them had a very large disposable income, compared with most people's.
Other than the motorhome (which he said was his mothers) his embezzlement averaged around 29k per annum. This is a lot of money, but not so much that he couldn't have explained it away in the context of his having a large disposable income, and physically concealing some of the small items like the pen, lying about how much he paid for others, and lying how he was paying for them - e.g. monthly finance on the jaguar would have been very affordable on his salary, but he actually stole 57k to buy it outright.
I don't google DH's purchases and check his bank statements to check he's not lying to me; perhaps I ought to, but most of us just take it on trust that our partners are telling us the truth.

GloiredeDijon · 31/05/2026 20:22

Triskellion75 · 31/05/2026 19:46

She wasn't just 'the wife' though, she was leader of the party he was embezzling. People resigned because she refused to accept there was something dodgy going on, despite multiple complaints. She's on camera belligerently shutting down any notion of the party's finances being anything but healthy.

Frankly, after trying to put an actual rapist in a women's prison she can fuck off with the 'I'm a victim of sexism' shit. And I say all this as someone who used to really admire her.

Completely agree.

Also, I found her excuses about the motorhome laughable.

She has zero credibility left.

Either she is incredibly stupid, or she is a liar.

I am inclined towards the second option.

fiveturds · 31/05/2026 20:22

I don’t think it would be any different if the roles were
reversed. Him being SNP leader and her embezzling. People would still be asking why he didn’t notice all the weirdly expensive shite.

Triskellion75 · 31/05/2026 20:23

@AccidentallyWesAnderson in my defence my admiration evaporated a long time ago, especially as until recently she was my MSP!

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 31/05/2026 20:29

Triskellion75 · 31/05/2026 20:23

@AccidentallyWesAnderson in my defence my admiration evaporated a long time ago, especially as until recently she was my MSP!

Fair enough!

tigger1001 · 31/05/2026 20:33

She is just confirming that she and her government were and still are incompetent. Not just her in fairness.

the buck stopped with her. She was party leader. Questions were being asked about the party's finances and she tried to shut them down. Why?

the two of them should never have both had the jobs they did. One of them needed to step away. Anyone could see it was a massive conflict of interest.

given how much women's rights have been trampled on by sturgeons government she really does have a hard neck pleading sexism.

PropertyD · 31/05/2026 20:33

So why didn’t she do anything? The red flags were flapping unless she thought she was untouchable?

PropertyD · 31/05/2026 20:37

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 31/05/2026 20:16

All of this. Apart from the last sentence.

That’s the word - belligerent!

DisforDarkChocolate · 31/05/2026 20:42

She's right but I'm astounded by out of touch she was with their finances. I just cannot imagine ever being in that position or being a politician and thinking it was acceptable either.

CoraLdn · 31/05/2026 20:43

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 31/05/2026 19:44

LMAO. She claimed to never be in the kitchen of her home. She claimed not to have noticed the big fuck off motorhome on her MIL’s drive.She claimed to not have shut down questions on the finances despite being in video doing so. Believable my ass.

Just going on what I saw today on bbc. I don’t know, but what she was saying there made sense to me. If there was a motorhome not on my MIL’s drive, but somewhere between her and a neighbour’s house, I’d also think it’s not hers and doubt I’d ask.
My radar is telling me she was genuine but could be totally wrong.