AIBU to ask tenants to move before or after new baby?

[CatWithAPetDog]

We are landlords and have a property that our son would like to move into at some point in the next year. Our current tenants have a toddler and have just told me that they are expecting another baby in November.

If you were the tenant, would you prefer to have to move out whilst pregnant or with a young baby. I know it’s not great timing for them either way, but which would you say would be easier? We can wait a while as long as my son is moved in this time next year, but then they would have a toddler and six month old baby, so it may be easier to do it sooner with just a toddler?

They’ve been good tenants so I would like to cause them the least stress possible.

Sorry forgot to make boring make sense

YABU - Get them to move before the new baby arrives

YANBU - Get them to move after the new baby arrives

Then this is the price they pay
But actually its bull shit.
Two adults on minimum wage could secure a mortgage for £200,000

If that were the case, Landlords would never get their properties back, and they would have no rights!

If they had a dispute and legal fees to buy the property. Which some people don’t.

The OP is making money from the tenants though, they are paying rent. Her son won't be. No-one is asking her to give up income.

£26,000 a year x 2 x 3.5/4 is £200,000 even without a deposit
Locally we have 2 bedroom terraces for £100,000 up north

You would choose the comfort of some random family over your own son?

Pull the other one.

I do understand how difficult it is to rent, the area where I work rents have increased massively and my younger colleagues are signing contracts without even viewing them to get somewhere. And in my town people are turning to buddying up as housemates whereas 5 years ago it was still affordable for a couple on minimum wage to get a basic house (many here are 2 bed terraces with a yard or shared garden, basic starter homes) Having a LL who is aware of that and willing to help the tenant is a massive bonus. Presumably their son is also affected by the limited housing market and it is reasonable for them to help him get somewhere to live. Why is he less deserving of a home because he doesn't have children? It would actually be harder for him to find somewhere then the family, no one wants to rent to single people especially single men.

It used to be difficult to get a guarantor - it ruled me out in the past when it was typically dependent on having parents who could pay for you - but the fact that renting is so tricky means it's actually far easier now. Instead of needing a rich family you pay a fee to a company who act as the guarantor for you. It's an extra cost but it is accessible, as I said it's basically buying an insurance policy.

I would not chuck a family out so my son could live rent free no.

I would prefer if you warned me now, informing me you are happy to wait a few months until we save for next rental deposit/find somewhere else

Have you forgotten the bit where people need to live off their income rather than save it for a deposit?
Im in a little town up north. The 200,000 house you refer to here would rent for £950 a month. How much do you think a couple on minimum wage would have spare to save a 20k deposit + legal fees whilst renting?

Tell them now so they have time to look, the rental market is very difficult for renters right now could take them 6-9 months to find somewhere! You could return their deposit back early too so they have the funds to move also, since your clearly not desperate if your allowing your son to move in rent free.

Those companies are quite expensive. We looked at it and as I am currently on long time sick it was not affordable for us. Unless we were just looking at be wrong ones

Be honest with them and tell them you need the house back by X and let them decide which is best for them and find something suitable . Don't just give them a couple of months notice and tell them they have to leave

you are looking at it the wrong way, the family was able to rent until the son would move into HIS property. (or his parents property)

No one is "chucking out" anyone.

why are you so angry about the "rent free"? are you also angry when a family has a place in a convenient city (like central London) and the kids can stay there when they go to uni and start working? As opposed to people who chose to live in the sticks so kids had to move to find education and a job?

Where does it stop. People have different opportunities and help, that's life.

Why not just let them know your plans now and let them take the lead if you're not in a huge rush? Give them an end date and take it from there.

that's why so many of us had to flat share and live very cheaply, and that's not recent. You have to be very privileged if you can afford the rent of a medium size flat/ house AND save for a deposit and have a life.

Hence you secure your housing before having children.
It can only get worse afterwards

Everyone I know took 2nd jobs, lived like church mice for 12-18 months before buying a house

@CatWithAPetDog Neither!

Go speak to them as human beings and ask what would be easier for them. Let them know you appreciate the timing isn't great with a baby due so want to do what is best for them.

The landlords son wants to move in THIS year not in a year

Not true: We are landlords and have a property that our son would like to move into at some point in the next year.

At some point in the next year.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? It's not affordable for many before having children.

Because it is creates entitled, privileged people.

there is one things helping a child out (deposit etc) and there is another thing giving your child a house they didn’t have to work at all for and teaching them
it is ok to get that even at the expense of another family.

Keep us posted

I agree with most of your post but where I live in the South East, we have the opposite problem re renting demographic.

The market is so competitive that landlords can and frequently do rent out properties to single people. Many houses are listed as "professionals only" which has become code for childless applicants.

These smaller, younger families are competing for the same properties (small 2 beds) as these people who are saving lots of money by renting outside of but very close to London. Many family sized homes here have also been turned into HMOs for local workers and for London commuters.

I know it's not like this everywhere, but it really hurts to see people (not you! other posters on this thread) be so oblivious to how hard it is in some areas of the UK. And asking everyone to move to cheaper areas isn't realistic as people rely on family ties for support, and demand would shift elsewhere anyway.