AIBU to ask tenants to move before or after new baby?

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We are landlords and have a property that our son would like to move into at some point in the next year. Our current tenants have a toddler and have just told me that they are expecting another baby in November.

If you were the tenant, would you prefer to have to move out whilst pregnant or with a young baby. I know it’s not great timing for them either way, but which would you say would be easier? We can wait a while as long as my son is moved in this time next year, but then they would have a toddler and six month old baby, so it may be easier to do it sooner with just a toddler?

They’ve been good tenants so I would like to cause them the least stress possible.

Sorry forgot to make boring make sense

YABU - Get them to move before the new baby arrives

YANBU - Get them to move after the new baby arrives

I've given a tenant 3 1/2 months notice to leave by July 25th. They have 2 under 4 and are expecting twins in October and have a dog. I figured it would be much harder to move with a 4 year old 2 1/2 year old and newborn twin and a dog. Plus even though they are supposed to leave by July 25th they have not found anywhere to move to yet, despite a good reference, which is worrying and probably means they won't be able to move out and I'll have to go to court to get a repossession order.

This.

Plus you feel lucky to have been able to have rented a nice place with nice landlords for a short time and not have to worry about the boiler repairs and what-not. Renting is what it is.

Anyone thinking they have a permanent claim on the place is 1) ironic given how banks can foreclose when people own and 2) well, the entitlement is off the scale. Excellent way to put off decent landlords too.

She is still risking a young family becoming homeless.

I mean, I don't have children and I can't afford a 400k house.
I am fortunate to have a mortgage, but I live in a relatively cheap northern house and even here the rent prices prevent many from being able to afford to save a deposit, and that cheapest starter homes would be 200k. Which, given the wages in this area are typically low, would still be out of reach for many.

This is meant kindly, but I strongly advise that you ask your son to pay rent. It doesn't have to be market rates, but he should pay a certain amount, and he should be responsible for utilities too.

Cushioning young adults from life's financial realities does them no favours.

I do hope the OP isn’t moving her son in for six months just so she can let it out again afterwards at a much higher rent than before.

I mean, she wouldn’t do that, would she?

That is the downside of stopping the 12 months fixed term contract.

They don’t have permanent claim however they shouldn’t be in fear of being evicted because someone kid wants a free houses

if a house is well looked after, is paid for on time then really there is no reason to make people homeless.

Moving while pregnant will feel like a piece of cake compared to once the baby's born. All that baby stuff they'll have to move, as well as the actual baby.

This is why I never wanted to rent.

Except they're planning how to do it without making them homeless. You seem to have missed the point of the thread entirely.

This LL is QUITE LITERALLY showing she cares about the people who are occupying her home.

Usual terrible behavior from a small landlord.
No wonder they are vilified.
This doesn’t happen with corporates.

I'd have my son living with me before I'd evict a family with a newborn and a toddler into a broken housing market. You could be sending them into homelessness. I just couldn't do that to someone.

Oh mate, give it up.

there is a still a chance they will be.
the market is really bad at the moment and their is not a lot of choice. If the tenents are looking while the mother is on mat pay this could mean that she will not meet the criteria at that time which will lower their chances.

You really haven't rented from an actual terrible landlord, have you?

I’m glad it’s not just me.

i’m honestly worried that morals and kindness has gone out the window.

I am glad people are not over-reacting and being over-dramatic on this thread, it's a such a relief to read common sense 😂

Bet all these people don't have the same attitude about their own business and income source! There they won't consider to become a charity for a second, but it's easier to be generous with someone else's money.

If the LL allows them flexibility to move that's very unlikely. The difficult thing in a hot rental market is being able to take on a tenancy as soon as it's available, landlords don't want voids. That would give them the edge over a lot of potential tenants. Plus if income is borderline most agencies these days will accept with a guarantor, and there are companies who will provide this, a bit like buying insurance.
I'm not suggesting its better than the current tenant being able to stay but it is the reality of renting and this LL is at least trying to make it easier for the tenant
I'm under no illusion how bad LLs can be; one sold the house I was living in to a company and 'forgot' to tell me or give me notice, I found out about it when someone I know mentioned about 'that new X opening up on Y street' and I realised the building they were talking about was my home...

OP I’d tell them now that you’ll need the house back in a years time but if they want to leave earlier /find the right property beforehand, you are happy to go with that.

That makes the decision of before or after baby to be their choice not yours.

I agree with this. We did the same for our tenants.

Not everyone can get a guarantor.

maybe I am more emotive about this but I don’t think people realise how difficult it is at the moment to find a house to rent. Even for people with decent earnings and good references there is still a chnace you are gonna to be competing with another 4 or 5 family’s for that one property: to chuck a family out just so a child can leave in house a for free just seems wrong.

Its good that op will give them as much notice as possible then so they have a decent chance at getting somewhere before her mat leave starts

Yeah hopefully
and even better if she lets them stay longer if they are really struggling.

What a stupid thing to write! Are you aware that some people literally cannot afford to buy a home?