Does the ground floor flat have the sole right to the front garden or is it shared?

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In a victorian house converted into flats, which are all rented from one landlord?

The rear garden belongs to the GF I know that, but what about the front garden?

Photo for example included, not my home

Yabu - belongs to the gf flat only
Yanbu - belongs to all the flats as they all have to pass by it to get home

Nc as outing

No way - just going in and out. I have to come down two flights of stairs so theyre there for a max time of 2 or 3 minutes. They do make noise, I agree, but nothing crazy, no screaming or shouting

Lets say we go out to go to sainsburys, and come back in, its the noise of coming in and out

He feels that he has a headache and noone should make noise

Thank you - he honestly is draining

Cornering me in endless conversations about his health

Looking at the picture and renting from an HA as well, the front area is probably communal for access but can't usually be used for playing in etc - as that can cause a nuisance to the ground floor.

If bins are stored there, it's already going to look bad. Is that allowed in a conservation area? Adding bikes, scooters, packages, bags of clothes etc would tip it over into something I couldn't look out onto. I can see why the neighbour isn't thrilled with that view.

They've got some massive bikes out there, a storage shed, plants and then the bins

I have one child bike, one child scooter there, and a buggy

The packages would be stored behind the bins so that I can collect them when I get home

There is no hanging out there, I dont want to do that

Very much depends. We were in the ground floor flat of a Victorian conversion and the gardens front and back were split between the flats which was an absolute pain.

Many many many years ago I lived in a property like that. I owned the ground floor flat and had the back garden, my neighbour owned the first floor flat and the front garden.

We never discussed the dustbins but they were both kept in the front garden, in a corner.
I only ever walked up / down the front path. As did she.
She def didn't have the front garden looking as lovely as the one in the photo.

If my neighbour had wanted she could have applied for planning permission to turn her front garden into a driveway - which in 2026 I think would be done now as the road is now residents parking with permits.

Report the threats. That is unacceptable.

Check your deeds as it maybe it does thouhh unlikely if its communal entrance but also a shed placed there may breach the deeds

Yes..so contact them!

Unwritten rule in my area is the ground floor gets the back garden and the upstairs the front bit. But it’s been established over generations through utility / social housing provision - not private renting

Ugh they took in a parcel for me and were weird about it as I was coming downstairs to let the cat out

I will need to sort out this front garden thing, relocate the bike and scooter and then make my complaint about the threatening voice notes

Thank you - I am social renting so hoping i can use the front garden

Yes... thats what i did

His name wouldn’t be Simon would it? Had a very similar downstairs neighbour a couple of years ago (we owned, he was the downstairs owner’s temporary housesitter). Total arsehole.

means nothing. You could have right of way over the path but not be allowed to use the garden.

edited to add: Sorry for some reason, my iPad has decided to quote another poster. My post is in response to the OP saying she leaves her DC’s things in the front garden, and her DC play there.

I’d be irritated if a fellow tenant were using shared communal space to store things. Your neighbours also use the front garden to enter/ exit their homes. You shouldn’t be leaving anything there.

And your DC probably are noisy to someone not their doting parent or relative! Particularly if they’re playing right outside his window. It’s shared space, and it sounds like you’re taking advantage, frankly.

😄😄 no its not, hes lived here for ages and rents from the HA like me

Nowhere in this thread have I said :

Dc play in the front garden. They dont. He is complaining about the noise as we pass his flat door to exit the main door

The front garden is used by him. He has bikes and other stuff out there. I have one small buggy, and one bike and scooter which he insisted in putting in his storage box shed

I disagree that noise from a child going past his door twice a day, entering and exiting - or waiting there while i bring the bins down, qualifies as more than typical neighbour noise

Totally unreasonable then! Hope you can get yourself somewhere else to live that is a bit more chilled...

This is my dream flat

I'm going nowhere 😫

Ask the agents…….only they will have the legal facts on this. No point in contesting right to access merely from opinions on SM.

How does he expect you to leave the property then? Levitation? Helicopter? Gags?!

But l would check with the HA. This kind of stuff is usually awry out in deeds as it does vary by property

I'm gonna trot down there now and thrust mumsnet in his whinging face before camping in the front garden 😄

Landlords should make this exceedingly clear as obviously everyone in the flat would probably like to know if they had a little bit of outside space!

I live in a similar setup except the house is only converted into 2 properties. Our properties were clearly divided where I have one side of the driveway and the outdoor shed, and neighbour has the other car port. Obviously we both have to share the stairs and immediate porch outside of our front door, so I would avoid putting anything obstructive there, but I've always had my kids little scooters and often the buggy right near the shared door with no problems.

It's much more likely to be a grumpy neighbour issue than an actual issue, but it will come down to how much of a jobsworth they end up being about it.