Does the ground floor flat have the sole right to the front garden or is it shared?

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In a victorian house converted into flats, which are all rented from one landlord?

The rear garden belongs to the GF I know that, but what about the front garden?

Photo for example included, not my home

Yabu - belongs to the gf flat only
Yanbu - belongs to all the flats as they all have to pass by it to get home

Nc as outing

The Gf flat’s shed?

Conservation area
Owned by a housing association so will have to ask re the front garden

I dont want my stuff there if its theirs solely and will happily move it but it will be a hassle

Plus, I have packages stored in the front garden

The gf neighbour has been difficult before, asking that I not store a bag of clothes (I was clearing out the car) there because it will attract tramps (his words). I caved then but refused to with this latest noise complaint about children coming and going past his door

Yeah its like a mini storage shed, it lifts from the top

I would happily give them money for the storage shed, or just move our stuff from the shed. The main thing is contacting the ha and asking about the rights to the front garden I suppose

Have you been given permission to use the storage box? Can't imagine much else will fit in that with your buggy and other stuff in it

You'd need to check the deeds. I had a ground floor flat - old tenement building. In our case, the two ground floor flats each owned a small garden space immediately in front of them. The rear garden was communal.

It depends.

I lived in a Victorian conversion, I owned the ground floor flat along with the back garden. The front garden belonged to the upstairs flat, so he was responsible for all the maintenance of that garden. I would have had no right to store anything in the front garden.

Yeah they told me they wanted to put the bike and scooter in there

They store two big bikes in the front garden, along with chairs and fake grass

Have emailed the HA but dont expect to hear back for at least a week 🙄🙄

We rent with a HA and have a similar setup. The front garden is considered communal

The deeds vary.

I once owned a ground flat with one above and the huge back garden and front garden were solely owned by me. The upstairs flat could only use the main entrance and hall way to go upstairs. Sometimes they are communal and sometimes shared or different. Only the deeds would tell you.

Thank you, fingers crossed it is here too

My neighbour is awful honestly but I am alone with dc and he seems unstable so need to have ducks in a row

Threatening me over my dc making noise whilst passing the door when coming in and out

Check the deeds. I cannot imagine you want to hang our peering through people's front window or blocking their sunlight drinking coffee when they are about their daily lives. Could you just adopt a little greenspace somewhere around?

Sorry to hear that. It doesn’t sound like you’re doing anything wrong but that the neighbour has been treating the front garden like it’s his only. That would be unusual for a housing association property where all tenants usually have joint responsibility for communal areas. It would be considered similarly to a hallway.

(The back garden might also be communal because ours is, even though it seems like it should belong to the garden flat)

Yes, you definitely need to speak to the HA. It will belong to one flat on the deeds but all the other residents will have ROA over it. It's a very pretty frontage, if I were the owner I would object to stuff being stored there.

Oh, just realised it is an example photo. I thought "bloody hell, I would like to have a tenancy with your HA",

Ask the landlord. Where i used to live, 6 flats, 1 owned the back garden but front plus car park anyone could use. Used to have bbqs and partie's out there.

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If i had better neighbours, this place could be beautiful!

Thank you, i hoped as noone owns the flats that could be case

We have massive communal gardens but I never felt comfortable to just hang out there. I feel the eyes from behind curtains. So I found a private road with a big grass bank and played there with my children when they were growing up, they were noisy believe me. But!!! the next summer someone has put a whole picnic table-bench for us!!! and I cannot tell you how thankful I was

Thank you - he very much thinks he is in charge of it

Ive been here a year and have been so accommodating to his never ending conversations where he tells me about his health problems, but the other day I just had ENOUGH

'Tell your dc not to make noise whilst passing the door, I have headaches' fucking psycho

To be clear, I have no desire to hang out there! Just wondering about storage and being able to have my packages delivered there

What time are you going past their window making noise?

It's nice of them to let you use their storage shed, so I'm not sure why you are saying they are difficult?

So going past his flat door to get in and out of the main door

During daytime hours

I thought so too, and was very appreciative, bringing cakes, christmas cards and chocolates - even got his dc a birthday gift

But there have been a few situations that have made me uncomfortable, but this complaint telling me to tell dc to be quiet when walking past his door had me finally standing up for us

If the kids are shouting excitably, crashing into the flat, then perhaps they could quieten down and be considerate as they walk past his. If they're in and out playing all day especially. But ordinary noise of using the front door, the neighbour is being unreasonable. Nobody in shared places like this can expect total quiet all day long, but there's a middle ground where others respect their peace.

Ugh op he sounds draining. Feel for you 💐I hope you get an answer quickly so you can back yourself.