AIBU to resent the mess and antisocial behaviour from bank holiday visitors?

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I know I am going to get flamed for this thread, but I have had enough.

I live in a beautiful area, with a lot of tourism, and as such on good weather bank holiday weekends it becomes packed with people from outside of town. No problem with that, I knew when we were buying it was a popular place, and it's good for local business's.

But with it comes rubbish, mess and anti social behavior;

Does anybody else have to put up with this?

I was at our local David Lloyd yesterday and was still sitting outside when the families were all kicked out of the outdoor pool and the life guard was finishing up before they stopped providing a life guard outside....

I was HORRIFIED at the mess. The lifeguard spent about 20 minutes going around taking all the rubbish people had left behind and throwing it away. ditto, most people get towels from David Lloyd and just leave them lying around, notwithstanding the multiple bins for used towels. I asked him if this was normal and he said yes, it's shocking how people just wonder off.

Having money, not having money is irrelevant. People are just twats, selfish and lazy.

statistically 80% of the uk population earns below £50k a year. Therefore it’s likely that 80% of the visitors have that income. So the OP is correct in that the majority of the mess is left by people earning £50k or less.

Does anybody else have to put up with this

Everyday as a Londoner

Leaving a mess and antisocial behaviour is not acceptable.

Have you thought of doing something that might prompt change - discussing with your local council or MP to come up with possible solutions - extra bins, possibly a police presence/wardens etc. Petition for change. If your area makes money from tourism some of that money should be reinvested into solutions for these issues.

I agree you shouldn’t have to put up with the anti social behaviour etc and if I lived there I wouldn’t like it either, however and I’m sure it’s right in some cases, but to say people come to visit who can’t afford to live there is quite judgmental.

Massssssive stretch there 🤣

As if the OP calculated all this carefully in her brain before claiming the louts couldn't afford to live there.

Mind you if it wasn't for her husband, the OP couldn't afford to live there either, if all her other threads are anything to go by 🤷‍♂️

So OP - if you go somewhere you wouldn't be able to afford to live, do you chuck rubbish about? By your logic you would ....

Yes of course, that's exactly what I am saying!

Come on OP, say what you really mean! Also, have you considered that not everyone who visits your town wants to live there?

It's antisocial parking that is the big issue where I live, and if the vehicles that are involved are an indicator, it is most definitely not restricted to lower income families. In fact if anything it is a middle class issue. It gets ridiculous, with people double parked down narrow roads so that they become virtually impassable.
That said, I do have sympathy with visitors. If I had driven for ages to get somewhere and found the car parks full I probably wouldn't want to turn straight round and sit in another queue on the M6 either. There is a degree of nimbyism but actually quite a lot of the locals acknowledge that the local economy is highly reliant on visitors and would like to see some more carparks developed to make life easier for everyone. But it's very hard to get that approved in a national park, though there's a feeling locally that often the people who are most against developments don't even live here. Don't get me wrong,nobody wants to see multi storey carparks springing up, but there is potential for compromise. During Covid a local farmer turned a field into a carpark. Everyone was happy as it got cars off the roads and honestly, it did not blight the landscape. But he was refused planning permission to make it permanant, despite a lot of local support, and now the field is empty and cars are back on the verges. 🤷‍♀️
Yes, there are some visitors who behave appallingly, but actually I don't think most do, or at least they don't want to, but sometimes lack of facilities and/or lack of knowledge means they cause problems. Most are just regular people who want to enjoy the countryside though, and whilst it is annoying at times, visitors do go with the territory if you live somewhere beautiful. I can't deny that I prefer where I live out of season when it's quieter, but those of us who live here don't own (most of!) it and lots rely on visitors for their income. There's room for improvement on all sides and I am absolutely not advocating unfettered development or excusing anti social behaviour, but if you have some of the most beautiful countryside in the country and parking, toilet facilities and public transport range from inadequate to non existent then there is a certain inevitability to what we saw this weekend and every other hot spell since anyone can remember.

Plenty of the residents will fall into that bracket too though unless the OP lives in Monaco?

Ah well - you need to work harder and move somewhere SO exclusive that louts aren't allowed. Private beach ect.

You sound like such a lovely person! I'm sure the fellow residents will welcome you with open arms.

So many people are vile and leave their rubbish everywhere. They genuinely seem to believe it's someone else's job to clean it up. I'm a teacher and had a student once who dropped litter on a beach field trip, he point blank refused to pick it up because it was someone else's job and why do they have beach cleaners then. I gave him a detention for the next day and his Mum rang up to get it removed. It makes me furious. So many people have no pride or decency any more.

I live in London. Tourists around the central areas all day, every day. Just as well or certain industries would collapse in my opinion. There's often litter and rubbish around as a result of lots of people being in certain places. Think that some of it is down to there not being enough bins and some of it down to people (Londoners included) not caring.

Some people do make a mess whatever, but I remember a few years ago in the pandemic local authorities emptying the bins far less and then wondering why it looked a mess. With an influx of people you need bins to be emptied quicker/more frequently. Also local restaurants with takeout need to do their bit, locally McDonalds do litter picking duty. So I think it's a bit of both, local authorities and individuals taking action.

Have not RTFT but I agree with you, OP. I live in an outer London suburb next to and surrounded by forest. Bank Holidays (and half terms) are a time when I avoid the forest unless I can slip in via some lesser known paths and have a walk that excludes the better known and accessible by car bits. Covid year was hell there once people were allowed out with distancing in the hot summer days. They flooded the forest nearby (multiple groups of shouting, loud music playing picnickers clustered on all grassy areas, a few feet apart, particularly near ponds, lighting fires and barbecues -both banned by the forest authority - and abusive when this was pointed out. The fallow deer, who are quite shy here, stopped coming to our part of the forest until the madness was all over. The locals were left with mountains of discarded rubbish all over acres of the open forest closest to public transport termini and, unfortunately, quite a bit of human faeces. It took a lot of time from volunteers (and the local harriers) to clean up after weekends (and my dog rolled in human poo!). It has not been that bad again but there are still a fair few litterers on public holidays and weekends (just bag it and take it home or to a wastebin on your way to the station or bus) and always there are some barbecues, not to mention loud music and shouting. I expect they wonder why they don't see any wildlife. They would probably complain if they arrived and the forest was full of rubbish - lucky for them we locals do their dirty work for them. At other non-school holiday times, we seem to get more visitors who really want to visit the forest for its own sake and enjoy exercising in it and watching and respecting wildlife. This is not a class thing, it is a matter of treating others and their home area as how you would like you and your area to be treated.

Out of interest, what are your thoughts on the 15 people arrested at Henley Regatta last year due to drunken behaviour? Or are those OK as they are likely the right "sort"?

Yes, that's obviously exactly what I am saying!

Thoughtless behaviour. Many of those visiting will be coming from built up areas and perhaps they don’t care to look after their own surroundings, so why would they yours. Sad really. If you have a lovely garden you take care of and an area you enjoy and look after; you are more likely to do that for others. This isn’t everyone but a small minority have no care for anyone else and show it, daily. Picking up your rubbish as an adult should be a given. The pottying at the side of the road and leaving it is ridiculous.

That's deeply depressing, I don't understand why people are so vile

Feel completely the same, you’re not in West Yorkshire are you?

No, down south.

And sorry to hear that.

So the behaviour stinks because the people who come where you live ??? who come for the nature and not to look at your house!!! - so their behaviour stinks. What a highly intelligent cohesive brain you've got with all your money

I certainly can't resist chucking rubbish about whenever I am passing through Hampstead or Chelsea...

Can you try again, but in English please?