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Nicola Sturgeon didn't know her husband stole £400,000

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Imdunfer · 25/05/2026 21:03

Really? She lived with this guy and didn't know? She had a camper van parked on the drive and didn't know he stole the money to buy it?

I don't buy it.

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Matildatoldsuchdreadfullies · Yesterday 05:41

I do find myself wondering whether the salt and pepper grinders last. All mine stop grinding after a couple of refills. I’ve given up on them and just buy the disposable ones. But maybe Lalique is the answer?

LoisGriffinskitchen · Yesterday 05:54

I voted YABU due to personal experience of this. Not that amount though. My late father embezzled a huge amount of money from the company he worked for. It was explained away as bonuses, overtime etc etc. Very little went on my Mum or the family but there were occasional splurges on us.

My Mum had no idea until the police arrived one morning looking for him. He wasn’t there, he was elsewhere as he often was.

So it’s possible (but only just) that Nicola had no idea. Especially as she earned well herself. In fact because she earned so well you could argue it have been even less obvious. You could also argue that it should have been more obvious to someone like my Mum who had very little and relied on my Dad while she coped with three small children. Splashes of cash were noticeable …as was the fact he often didn’t come home.

He went to prison, Mum finally got a divorce and remarried later on to a man who did the whole Dad thing that my biological Dad did not.

Wearenotborg · Yesterday 05:58

Humblepieman · 25/05/2026 21:13

Nicola not being able to see something as plain as the nose on her face…..never. I think this time Nicola’s willful blindness will be her full undoing.

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She was too busy being a feminist to her fingertips innit?

Twinandatwoyearold · Yesterday 05:58

Why did it take so long to realise?

I read it had been happening since 2010 - surely it was being audited regularly.

As for Nicola Sturgeon - awful woman.

JustMyView13 · Yesterday 06:20

I don’t think you’re being unreasonable. I cannot fathom how she had absolutely no idea nor suspicion.

The only defence I can see, is we see enough times on here people going with the flow, and not seeing the obvious red flags that outsiders do. But if she really misjudged his character so catastrophically, that surely brings into question her suitability as a politician. Either way, not a great look for her.

Imdunfer · Yesterday 06:21

AInightingale · 25/05/2026 22:45

How do we know their marriage wasn't a total sham for the sake of her political career? Isn't she now living with a woman? They may have been leading entirely separate lives.

In the same house, though. The journalists would have spotted if she wasn't living where she said she was.

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Imdunfer · Yesterday 06:23

JustMyView13 · Yesterday 06:20

I don’t think you’re being unreasonable. I cannot fathom how she had absolutely no idea nor suspicion.

The only defence I can see, is we see enough times on here people going with the flow, and not seeing the obvious red flags that outsiders do. But if she really misjudged his character so catastrophically, that surely brings into question her suitability as a politician. Either way, not a great look for her.

This is about where I am. I think it's possible as both a wife and a party leader she closed her eyes to what was happening in her home and in her party. Culpable either way, is my feeling.

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Imdunfer · Yesterday 06:25

LoisGriffinskitchen · Yesterday 05:54

I voted YABU due to personal experience of this. Not that amount though. My late father embezzled a huge amount of money from the company he worked for. It was explained away as bonuses, overtime etc etc. Very little went on my Mum or the family but there were occasional splurges on us.

My Mum had no idea until the police arrived one morning looking for him. He wasn’t there, he was elsewhere as he often was.

So it’s possible (but only just) that Nicola had no idea. Especially as she earned well herself. In fact because she earned so well you could argue it have been even less obvious. You could also argue that it should have been more obvious to someone like my Mum who had very little and relied on my Dad while she coped with three small children. Splashes of cash were noticeable …as was the fact he often didn’t come home.

He went to prison, Mum finally got a divorce and remarried later on to a man who did the whole Dad thing that my biological Dad did not.

She was his boss, though, he effectively worked for her. She was leader of the party he was keeping the accounts for.

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Imdunfer · Yesterday 06:25

Matildatoldsuchdreadfullies · Yesterday 05:41

I do find myself wondering whether the salt and pepper grinders last. All mine stop grinding after a couple of refills. I’ve given up on them and just buy the disposable ones. But maybe Lalique is the answer?

🤣🤣🤣

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guinnessguzzler · Yesterday 06:25

And these guys want to run an independent Scotland?!

RanyaJerodung · Yesterday 06:30

Imdunfer · Yesterday 06:23

This is about where I am. I think it's possible as both a wife and a party leader she closed her eyes to what was happening in her home and in her party. Culpable either way, is my feeling.

I agree with you. She's a politician, hardly naive. She must have known, or at least been suspicious.

craftycowbag · Yesterday 06:33

Funny how the trial and the guilty plea was just a few days after the election.

Ilovegolf · Yesterday 06:38

I don’t know. DH and I are both high earners but I would certainly notice if random, massively expensive shite started appearing in my house? DH couldn’t buy/lease a car without me being aware of how we were paying for it, but then again we share all money and always have. If they had totally separate accounts and lived totally seperate lives, then maybe?

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 06:38

MissBattleaxe · 25/05/2026 21:56

I was listening to this on the radio with DH and I said "if you'd spent four grand on a bloody pen, I'd want to know where you getting the bloody money from!"

No way was Jimmy Krankie that oblivious.

Such feminism.

Imdunfer · Yesterday 06:41

Goatsarebest · Yesterday 01:25

You have an Audit Committee to prevent the exact thing that has happened here. That is one person in power being able to use funds for their own means without being found out. That's why you have this committee. So she restricted their access to the information they required to such an extent that 3 prominent, experienced and financially literate members of the Committe resigned. This was her doing. Why as leader of a Party that relied on funding for a very clear ideological objective would you close down your Audit Committee. There is only one reason. You didn't want them to find something out.
There was a business in Co. Clare, where I live run, for the benefit of Irish Republican causes, particularly supporting families of IRA prisoners. A manager stole 200k from it. The Provisional IRA 'Audit Committe' weren't stopped by the leadership from 'doing their job' in this case.

It's pretty damning, isn't it?

But of course, not sufficient to prosecute. I don't think it's fair to criticise MNers for believing that she's guilty when stuff like that happened, as one or two posters have.

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AmazingGreatAunt · Yesterday 06:41

This news is so old it must almost be antediluvian.
Why is it being resurrected now?

CrocsNotDocs · Yesterday 06:41

She was the boss of an organisation that lost £400k through embezzlement. Auditors raised red flags and resigned en masse. She did nothing.

She is either grossly incompetent or complicit in a crime.

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 06:49

sweetgingercat · 25/05/2026 22:57

Thing is... years ago, in about 2015, I was visiting a Scottish friend and he told me that Ian Murray was very corrupt and there were lots of questions about big amounts of SNP money disappearing into the Murray coffers. So if I, an ordinary Gingercat from London, who only spent a couple of days purring in Scotland, had heard about it, I don't believe she hadn't. Someone would have warned her...

Ian Murray? The Labour MP?

Imdunfer · Yesterday 06:52

AmazingGreatAunt · Yesterday 06:41

This news is so old it must almost be antediluvian.
Why is it being resurrected now?

We can tell you don't follow the news.

He pleaded guilty yesterday at the court case.

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ChapmanFarm · Yesterday 07:04

mrshoho · 25/05/2026 23:21

Was thinking the same. It's possible he squirrelled the money into hidden bank accounts. He could have spun a yarn about the camper van too? I'm no fan of her so not sticking up for her.

This might fly if she were merely the wife but she was also in charge of the organisation he stole it from.

So what about her professional responsibility? How did she not know when auditors and those in charge of the accounts were resigning because they were denied access?

And if she didn't know, why isn't that negligence?

Motheranddaughter · Yesterday 07:09

ChapmanFarm · Yesterday 07:04

This might fly if she were merely the wife but she was also in charge of the organisation he stole it from.

So what about her professional responsibility? How did she not know when auditors and those in charge of the accounts were resigning because they were denied access?

And if she didn't know, why isn't that negligence?

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ChapmanFarm · Yesterday 07:12

catcurl · Yesterday 00:05

I feel its believable too.

Its £400k but over 12 years- and in a context where Nicola was earning £200k a year, her husband at the time around £100k a year.

Its very different from a family earning say £60k collectively a year, to wonder where money for buying things like that is coming from, and watching the pennies till pay day.

It is strange that it is mundane things they could likely afford from their own salaries.

One partner does tbe majority of the financial admin (I know thats how we work it), someone has a personal account to muddy the waters a bit- I can see how this could happen, women have found out they have been deceived by their partners on here very regularly.

Again, how do you account for her professional culpability then?

Not knowing what your husband does is one thing. Not knowing what the chief executive of the party you lead does? Downright scandalous.

They should never have been allowed to hold both posts. That's corrupt in itself.

Imdunfer · Yesterday 07:18

ChapmanFarm · Yesterday 07:12

Again, how do you account for her professional culpability then?

Not knowing what your husband does is one thing. Not knowing what the chief executive of the party you lead does? Downright scandalous.

They should never have been allowed to hold both posts. That's corrupt in itself.

That's a good point and it wouldn't be allowed in business unless they owned the business.

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YellingAway · Yesterday 07:22

For those trying to defend her, she angrily defended the finances, telling colleagues to stop asking questions about the finances, didn’t seem perturbed when colleagues resigned from the audit committee due to lack of financial transparency and signed off on the accounts when their auditor refused to do so.

Anyone with a modicum of intelligence would have started to ask questions long ago rather than continuing to ignore the big red flags.

Further, this money has been stolen from the party faithful, most of whom are not the typical rich benefactors but ordinary people, however she did not even mention them in her woe is me statement yesterday. She is rotten to the core.

Freud2 · Yesterday 07:30

TaraRhu · 25/05/2026 23:31

Where did all jewellery and other more female items go? If it wasn't to Nicola then who? What did he do with his actual salary? shocking

I would love to beleive that Nicola just has no awareness of luxury items and how much the cost. She's not very into fashion or things... but I think that's a long shot. You could not ignore some of this stuff.

Nicola is such a disappointment. I thought she was better than Johnson and Farage. Whilst this wasn't her fault she clearly was blind here as she was with salmond. She could have been one of the great politicians. She handled covid like a pro.

She didn't do well with covid - there were far more deaths in Scotland.