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Is it unreasonable to be frustrated by a guest who says they eat anything when they actually don’t?

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funinthesun22 · Yesterday 09:24

My MIL is staying with us over the bank holiday. When I asked in advance what she’d like to eat, she said she eats anything and was happy to have whatever we usually have.

Friday dinner was a vegetable and chickpea but apparently she hates chickpeas and dried fruit in savoury food. Saturday breakfast (yogurt, granola, fruit) didn’t go down well either. I took her to M&S so she could pick things she’d enjoy, but she kept insisting she was fine and didn’t add anything to the basket until I said we’d planned tacos for dinner she said she didn’t know what that was and didn’t sound keen, so we bought an alternative dinner for her.

At lunch I made a salad with homemade dressing. She didn’t like the sound of the dressing and asked for salad cream which we didn’t have. I offered vinaigrette, olive oil, or mayo as alternatives but she turned them all down and had a plain salad. She also asked for a few additions we didn’t have, despite us having been in M&S two hours earlier offering to buy food. We’ve got a BBQ planned today and I’m hopeful now that I know more of her dislikes but still not entirely sure.

AIBU to find this frustrating? I genuinely don’t mind catering to a picky eater. I just need to know what she actually likes. But every time I ask, I get “I’ll eat whatever you’re having” when that’s clearly not the case.

OP posts:
Neurodiversitydoctor · Today 03:16

AlcoholicAntibiotic · Today 03:02

I think the difference is you’re veggie. I personally like chickpeas, but have only really started eating them (other than in hummus) in the last few years. They certainly weren’t a staple in any non-veggie households when I grew up (don’t know about veggie households as I only had one friend who was vegetarian and food at hers was usually a cheese sandwich!).

It’s still something I wouldn’t necessarily expect to be standard in a non-vegetarian / non-vegan household.

We weren't vegetarian growing up. Actually I am not vegetarian now but DH is so we don't have meat at home. I thought the wide use of pulses dated from the 1970s hippie movement, so 50 years ago.

AlcoholicAntibiotic · Today 03:23

Neurodiversitydoctor · Today 03:16

We weren't vegetarian growing up. Actually I am not vegetarian now but DH is so we don't have meat at home. I thought the wide use of pulses dated from the 1970s hippie movement, so 50 years ago.

I suppose it depends on if you or your parents moved in / were influenced by the 1970s hippie movement!

Pulses were really not widespread where I grew up in the 80s / 90s, and still aren’t particularly common with most of the non-vegetarians I know. Lentils perhaps more widely used than chickpeas.

MoodyMargaret11 · Today 03:37

Stillreadingalot · Yesterday 09:47

How old is your MIL ? Some previous posts are terribly ageist . I'm in my 60s and yes I grew up with Vesta dried curries and Bernie steakhouse regarded as exotic but regularly cook and eat a wide variety of ingredients (including fajitas but not tacos).

This idea that anyone over 60 only wants to eat "traditional" food is nonsense.The huge increase in variety of food consumed in the UK was driven by "old" people back in the late 70's and 80's.

This!
I have hosted several relatives of 60+ (some in their 80s), coming from abroad at that. I like being adventurous with cooking, so have served them mostly food they'd never eaten before.
They happily tried (and ate) everything - British, Indian, Mexican, you name it... plates clean, never heard a complaint. They had fun learning about new cuisines.

Blondeshavemorefun · Today 05:15

I’m not a fussy eater minus mushrooms - and love humous - but chickpea and veg doesn’t sound thrilling and wouldn’t be my first choice

breakie - croissants - toast - cereal or fry up /bacon/sausage sarnie

we seem to be living off good chicken - new pots - ceasear salad - coleslaw at the moment. My 9ys loves it so have a couple times a week

bbq /jackets /salad hopefully she will enjoy

think of basic food

im more shocked you have no salad cream 🙀🙀🙀🙀

CurlewKate · Today 05:25

Doesn’t your DH know what his mother likes to eat?

NoGarlic · Today 05:49

Nottopanic · Yesterday 10:18

I’ve lived abroad in a variety of countries but I have never had tacos. I don’t regard them as standard fare at all. They also just look really unappealing. I’m 60.

I've had loads of tacos and will avoid them if at all possible 😂 Just a load of mush with overly hot sauce to make it sound interesting, and the bloody things squidge all over the place unless you're a wizard at strategic napkin deployment.

If I'm having a hand-held flatbread with meat, salad and sauce in it, I want a kebab with some body! I spent months in Mexico, and that was a nightmare. Not only handheld squidge as mandatory, but filled with refried beans (boring mush I can't digest).

I would not be OP's ideal guest! I am over 60, though, so she could blame it all on my imaginary Oxo-family upbringing.

GhostOrchid · Today 05:50

Class, wealth, education, life experience all play in to this stuff as much as taste preferences, I agree that age is a bit of red herring. We all live in our micro food cultures, I think, as this thread has shown.

My PILS were pretty adventurous eaters. Well travelled with a couple of stints living outside the UK. But they were also quite formal and reserved. I once took them to a (very good) street food market thinking they’d be really into it, but they were bewildered and were clearly horrified by the idea of wandering round outside eating. So we found a cafe instead,

Some people are weirded out by “build your own” meals like tacos and eating with their fingers, unless it’s a sandwich.

Whether you’re used to meals plated up in the kitchen by the cook or self serve from dishes at the table (or sideboard!) is also a bit of a tell, I think.

Goinggonegone · Today 05:50

funinthesun22 · Yesterday 10:10

It turns out that anything with garlic, and onions were out, but they’re the basis on most foods I cook. I’m happy to find alternatives but most recipes I make at least start with some variation of onion and/or garlic. And my similar aged parents will eat food with onion and garlic in them, so it’s not like it’s a known rule not to offer onions and garlic to anyone over the state pension age.

It's not always an age thing. I cant tolerate that sort of thing due to GERD, and I'm not state pension age.
My mother in her eighties had a cast iron stomach and could eat anything 🤣

Neurodiversitydoctor · Today 05:53

GhostOrchid · Today 05:50

Class, wealth, education, life experience all play in to this stuff as much as taste preferences, I agree that age is a bit of red herring. We all live in our micro food cultures, I think, as this thread has shown.

My PILS were pretty adventurous eaters. Well travelled with a couple of stints living outside the UK. But they were also quite formal and reserved. I once took them to a (very good) street food market thinking they’d be really into it, but they were bewildered and were clearly horrified by the idea of wandering round outside eating. So we found a cafe instead,

Some people are weirded out by “build your own” meals like tacos and eating with their fingers, unless it’s a sandwich.

Whether you’re used to meals plated up in the kitchen by the cook or self serve from dishes at the table (or sideboard!) is also a bit of a tell, I think.

Ohhh I love this- please explain the tell

GhostOrchid · Today 05:58

Crudely:

plated up = working class
everything in serving dishes = middle class

How people eat is as interesting as what they eat and is maybe playing out a bit in OP’s dilemma. Tacos!

RampantIvy · Today 06:49

Malinia · Today 01:42

OP, yanbu because she really needed to say in the shop what she wanted, but also yabu because tagine and tacos are not really standard UK food (and salad is rubbish regardless).

I eat a lot of pulses but hate fruit in savoury food, and I don't think that's uncommon.

You really need to think asking the lines of pub grub for her - meat and veg, cottage pie, meat stew, normal pie, she might maybe eat a lasagne (my pils will), soup and bread, fish and chips, that kind of thing.

I wouldn't ever think to serve older people tacos, that's pretty out there for that generation.

Another ageist comment. The MIL is late 60s, as am I, not late 80s. I would eat tajine and tacos.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · Today 06:49

AlcoholicAntibiotic · Today 03:23

I suppose it depends on if you or your parents moved in / were influenced by the 1970s hippie movement!

Pulses were really not widespread where I grew up in the 80s / 90s, and still aren’t particularly common with most of the non-vegetarians I know. Lentils perhaps more widely used than chickpeas.

Baked beans. Lentil soup. Chilli con carne. Hummus. All pretty common for decades now. I grew up in Scotland and have always loved pulses and barley in soup. No hippy influence involved!

onlyoneoftheregimentinstep · Today 06:50

curiouscat1987 · Yesterday 09:27

Sometimes i find if people arent used to eating a certain thing or style of food, they may not even really have it on their radar. People tend to assume everyone is the same as them! So that being the case she probably considers herself not to be fussy, within the realm of what shes familiar with/aware of if that makes sense?

Doesnt make it less annoying for you! Keep offering alternatives as you get to know her preferences, you're being a great host :)

This. Lots of people tend to stick to what they know and like. I can’t think of anything I actively dislike but there’s probably a whole world of foods out there that I’d prefer not to eat.

BuckChuckets · Today 07:02

CurlewKate · Today 05:25

Doesn’t your DH know what his mother likes to eat?

This is a very good point! For example, I know my dad is adventurous, loves super spicy food, and will genuinely eat most things. My mum, on the other hand, likes plainer foods, isn't adventurous, hates spice, and prefers potatoes over rice or pasta.

When my dad visits he enjoy whatever we eat, but with my mum I plan more carefully.

EnterQueene · Today 07:35

onlyoneoftheregimentinstep · Today 06:50

This. Lots of people tend to stick to what they know and like. I can’t think of anything I actively dislike but there’s probably a whole world of foods out there that I’d prefer not to eat.

So you'd tell your hosts you eat anything, then refuse to eat what they served? And if they took you to the supermarket to buy food you recognised, you wouldn't buy anything, so you could continue to turn your nose up at the food they served?

It it not about MIL likes and dislikes when it comes to food, it is about her being a pass agg nightmare guest.

RampantIvy · Today 07:42

EnterQueene · Today 07:35

So you'd tell your hosts you eat anything, then refuse to eat what they served? And if they took you to the supermarket to buy food you recognised, you wouldn't buy anything, so you could continue to turn your nose up at the food they served?

It it not about MIL likes and dislikes when it comes to food, it is about her being a pass agg nightmare guest.

This is spot on.

godmum56 · Today 07:48

Allmarbleslost · Yesterday 20:33

This!! Since I hit perimenopause there is now an ever increasing list of foods which give me dreadful stomach cramps and diarrhoea. I've also developed a few random allergies.

its also a generational thing I think. My DPs are mid 70s and they wouldn't know what a taco is.

not generational, I too am in my 70's

Laurmolonlabe · Today 07:51

PinkTonic · Yesterday 12:28

I was born in 1957 and my mother was influenced by Elizabeth David and then Jane Grigson. Being a picky eater or having limited tastes, ignorance of variety and inability to cook are not a generational thing.

Personally North African flavours, especially including dried fruit are probably my least favourite. My menu this week includes a Niçoise salad with asparagus instead of beans, pink roast sirloin with jersey royals in a mustardy dressing with charred tenderstem and a shaved fennel salad, souvlaki with flatbreads and a Greek salad, cowboy butter roasted cod loins with peppers, tomatoes and giant butter beans…despite being over state pension age.

Well that really depends on what sort of family you come from- I was born in 1961 my mother scarcely cooked and her mother scarcely cooked- they came from a Northern industrial town and women were expected to work full time from leaving school- cooking did not feature in the plan. My great grandmother cooked because she had 9 children and was therefore not expected to work.
Not cooking , under these circumstances and having a limited taste palate absolutely is a generational thing.
In my mother's family it was cold meat from the roast and chips on Monday, sausage and mash on Tuesday, chops on Wednesday, egg and chips on Thursday and fish and chips from the chip shop on Friday, frying steak or chops Saturday and roast on Sunday, every week, no cooking as such involved except on Sunday.
I learnt the basics at school and taught myself the rest, but many from my background won't cook much and those younger will cook even less.
My food choices cover most of the world- but I was not brought up with that sort of variety.

TheyGrewUp · Today 07:56

AlcoholicAntibiotic · Today 03:23

I suppose it depends on if you or your parents moved in / were influenced by the 1970s hippie movement!

Pulses were really not widespread where I grew up in the 80s / 90s, and still aren’t particularly common with most of the non-vegetarians I know. Lentils perhaps more widely used than chickpeas.

Goodness. I was born in 1960 and there was an abundance of pearl barley, haricot, broad and butter beans. There was also a vile concoction called Pease Pudding. Then others arrived but I've never been a fan of lentils.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · Today 08:05

Oh yes, mushy peas! Wonderful accompaniment to fish and chips.

SwatTheTwit · Today 08:27

DP is like this and it drives me up the walls. It’s actually probably the one thing I dislike about him.

“Oh yeah I’ll eat anything” - yeah… anything frozen, wrapped or fried, that is.

Doesn't like bread, doesn’t like pasta, doesn’t like chickpeas, doesn’t like most beans, doesn’t like fish or seafood except for fish & chips or calamari, doesn’t like raw tomatoes, a salad that’s only lettuce is not a salad. There’s probably more I’m forgetting 😭

echt · Today 09:07

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · Today 08:05

Oh yes, mushy peas! Wonderful accompaniment to fish and chips.

Having bought some frozen battered fish on the back of an MN thread about fish fingers, I had to buy a tin of Batchelor's mushy peas from the International section of Woolies.

It would be wrong not to.

funinthesun22 · Today 09:18

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · Today 00:23

OMG eating yoghurt and granola is 'showing off' now 😆

This thread is so much fun, I am learning a lot about people and food.

That’s what I thought. Not everyone has to like it or want to eat it, but it’s a totally standard breakfast. I think every hotel buffet I’ve ever been to has some variation of yogurt and granola. We did also have other options, but MIL settled on the same as us.

OP posts:
aliceinawonderland · Today 09:21

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · Today 06:49

Baked beans. Lentil soup. Chilli con carne. Hummus. All pretty common for decades now. I grew up in Scotland and have always loved pulses and barley in soup. No hippy influence involved!

Yes but often pulses were seen as part of the meal… so pearl barley in a meat stew. Not on their own.

TinyMouseTheatre · Today 09:26

funinthesun22 · Today 09:18

That’s what I thought. Not everyone has to like it or want to eat it, but it’s a totally standard breakfast. I think every hotel buffet I’ve ever been to has some variation of yogurt and granola. We did also have other options, but MIL settled on the same as us.

I wouldn’t eat granola and yogurt but that’s because I’m allergic to dairy, which had I been your guest I would have made clear and made some suggestions of things I could eat. Probably would have brought my own breakfast with me Wink