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AIBU to want to move after neighbour noise and threats?

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User48236 · Yesterday 06:46

I’ve had about an hours sleep as I’m still feeling so wired and upset, our lovely forever home has turned into a nightmare after less than a year and I just want to move 😢

Relocated several hours away to where I’m from as all my family plus grown up children are here due to an inheritance we were able to buy a house outright and become mortgage free..my teen dd still lives at home .

it’s a semi detached bungalow on what seemed a quiet estate with wonderful views . The vendor informed us neighbours were lovely both sides and that she had a great relationship with the couple who lived to the left , they walked her dog and generally treated her like family (she was an older lady )

On moving in they seemed initially quite friendly , one husband seemed quieter and we didn’t see him much the other seemed chattier but not falling over himself to be friendly, more just being nosey and wanted to find out a few things., neighbour the other side is rarely there.

Our bungalows are staggered on a slope and each has an integral garage meaning one neighbours garage is quite close to the wall of each house we were rudely woken up one Saturday at nine am by what sounded like hard house music pumping through our walls and the sound of weightlifting weights being slapped back into their holder or dropped on the floor which literally make the house shake .

it transpired that next doors garage was the guy we saw more of’s gym and he was working out , to make matters worse he opens his garage doors so it’s full volume too , we can hear it everywhere on the house and worse if we open the front door as that faces the garage wall of next door (door is at the side of the house )

Its been a regular thing for eight months every other day we have up to an hour a day of this and always first thing Saturday and I noticed that despite having only lived there a couple of years the neighbour on the other side of them has put her house on the market, it could be co-incidental but who knows .

on top of that we’ve now discovered that they like to socialise a lot (they hadn’t owned their house long when we moved In Last autumn and had been still doing it up ) obviously I have no
pfoblem with that it just seems to be very loud 😕
They are regularly in their garden at all hours playing very basey music. Not particularly loud but very basey .. which comes through poor dds bedroom wall and also they are very noisy in general , until late at night .. they are mid forties I’d say but appear to work from home .
they also have two large dogs which are in the garden all the time and bark at their own Shadow

for context we moved from a house with awful noise nuisance and I was looking forward to leaving that behind (rented)

last night I’d had enough . I’d casually mentioned the gym workouts once in conversation previously (once) thinking he might be considerate and instead he’d doubled down straight away saying “I’m not In There long” and has.actually not spoken to us since
last night We headed to bed at 10.30 and just as we are drifting off .. suddenly thump thump thump ! My daughter knocked on my door and said it sounded awful in her bedroom. You could hear several people chatting loudly (ok fair enough everyone’s entitled to use their garden )
but the music was so basey …. We could hear it in our room too .
as it got to 11 we decided it might be an idea to politely let them know it was audible In our house so we popped round . Once near the back garden you could hear it was loud .. The usual guy came to the door and I asked if they were having a party . He said no quite defensively.. So we explained the base was a little loud and asked him to maybe turn it down a bit . He went beserk , effing and jeffing and said “sorry you saddos don’t want to live but normal people like to sit in their gardens and listen to music , you’ve already complained about my music once “
we didn’t want a confrontation and explained it was just the music was a bit too loud and could they be considerate .. nope . He had no intention of it . “Fuck off and get a life” was the response , then told me if we came round again he’d set “the dogs on us “ As we walked away I heard him say “stupid bitch, I’m not fucking having that “

when we got home I just cried my eyes out as I realised we can’t stay here , because now I can probably expect them to be worse. I love this house, we poured so much money into doing it up as it needed modernising and dd is in the middle of her GCSE’s but I suddenly feel like I want to just pack up and leave . Am I being unreasonable?

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User48236 · Yesterday 16:17

I’m going to delete this as I’m now just getting back lash because people clearly aren’t reading my original post !
it’s not just on a Saturday ! Oh my god I wish it bloody was . It’s nearly every day of the sodding week and not just the occasional “party”
move lived for ten years with racket where I previously lived and just accepted it ..,,I don’t expect to live in silence ..
🙄 I am stressed and upset to the max but it seems I should expect to put up with loud thumping music every day as people have the right to do it . It’s a detached house in a quiet (not any more ) area

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User48236 · Yesterday 16:20

ts been a regular thing for eight months every other day we have up to an hour a day of this and always first thing Saturday and I noticed that despite having only lived there a couple of years the neighbour on the other side of them has put her house on the market, it could be co-incidental but who knows .

from my op .. I’ve clearly said it’s every other day for up to an hour and always Saturday

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BuckChuckets · Yesterday 16:22

Is it 9am on weekday mornings as well? I take it you either don't work or work from home? I work from home and could deal with noise for an hour in the morning, and the occasional party. I couldn't cope with regular loud music and noise into the early hours, though. I can understand you being sensitive of you've moved from somewhere that was happening.

UncannyFanny · Yesterday 16:22

Of course the problem you now have is you will have to declare this to perspective buyers if you take it further. One thing worth noting although it’s a bit too late now, when you’ve come from a situation of noise nuisance it can make you hypersensitive to any level of noise and less able to tolerate what many would consider normal household noise. It may well be possible that initially it may not have actually been that terrible but if you become more focused on it starts to invade your every thought to a point of distraction. The problem is you can’t keep moving every time you discover that other people don’t all tip toe around and some are just loud people in general. Obviously the relationship is screwed now and there’s no going back. If you ever do complain about noise nuisance going forward he’s going to know exactly who complained. I mean I get it, I once lived in that situation and became so sensitive to any noise that it turned out it was me who just wasn’t living a normal life. Realistically you’re never going to find a place with neighbours that live in complete silence . Thinking back, is it possible this became a fixation earlier on because of previous experiences and that perhaps it wasn’t actually that terrible to begin with? I mean I have a big dog that does bark and I immediately bring him in when he does, but other than cheering aloud, I can’t really do much about my neighbours screaming multiple orgasms every Sunday morning. People just make noise unfortunately.

Itsnouse · Yesterday 16:26

Just do it right back at them. Play your music at the same time as theirs at the same volume so they can’t hear their own properly. Perhaps then they will agree that it’s annoying.

ElectricSnail · Yesterday 16:33

You have my total sympathy. I had 2 years of hell from a neighbour. The worst, particularly with outdoor socialising, is never knowing when it’s coming. The local council will do nothing about noise. What i learned is that the bar for what constitutes noise nuisance is ridiculously high. If it’s not after eleven o clock, they won’t care. If it’s keeping the entire residents of a small block of flats awake, they don’t care then either. I think the level of noise considered unlawful was set for parties in parks with sound systems, that sort of thing. Someone at the local council told me she’d been to court for cases they thought were watertight, and generally they rule in favour of the noisy neighbour. Unless the neighbour is engaging in criminal behaviour, the police will direct you back to the local council noise team, who do nothing.

Something should be done about this in terms of changing the law to make it much harder for people to ruin their neighbour’s peace,, but in the meantime, don’t complain to the council. You’ll achieve nothing apart from making your house unsaleable. I know the market is bad right now, but maybe what you’ve done to it will hopefully, ultimately, add value. Honestly, I’d move, if their response was hostile and to ramp things up, they won’t change. It makes me furious people get away with this.

Boomer55 · Yesterday 16:42

daffodilandtulip · Yesterday 15:15

I’m sick of “everyone is entitled to use their gardens”, used to mean that people think they can play music, use power tools, scream and screech and generally submit everyone to hell. The quiet ones who are “entitled to use their gardens” don’t seem to have a leg to stand on.

They are entitled to use their gardens, to use power tools, and play music. 🤷‍♀️

Jeez.

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · Yesterday 17:03

Tuxedomaddness · Yesterday 16:04

Enjoying music in your garden is not entitled. Its not like it's all the time. We are shut indoors for 9 months of the year. Using and enjoying your garden is not a crime!

Im sorry, I have to disagree. There is nothing worse than being forced to listen to music you don’t want to listen to. My neighbour has shocking taste in music and whenever I try to enjoy my garden, I can’t because her music is on full blast. Why can’t she just wear headphones? I use my AirPods when I’m in and out of my garden. I wouldn’t dream of forcing other people to listen to what I’m listening to. She is the most inconsiderate neighbour I’ve ever had. From the second she gets home the music is on full blast. All year round. I have to turn my TV up so I can actually hear it over the noise.

I don’t mind if people have one-off parties and I don’t mind the noise of power tools and children playing, but non-stop music really is torture.

Lilmisskayos86 · Yesterday 17:07

I'm going through the same issue and just put a thread up. Yesterday I was met with my neighbour threatening to kill me. It's awful and we have just moved to our forever home as well.

BMW58 · Yesterday 17:13

I'd play loud classical music at him but I'm a confrontational bugger

Delatron · Yesterday 17:16

User48236 · Yesterday 16:14

I don’t think people are reading my op properly ..
it’s almost every day ! Literally 4 times a week but always on Saturdays as well

I am. But it is 9am and not 6am! There’s a lot of noise in general at 9am. And worse than music. Roadworks, building works, traffic.

I do have sympathy but your expectations are too high for complete peace and quiet. The neighbour sounds awful but he’s not actually doing anything wrong.

And I always find with neighbours if you’re tolerant and get on then they would be more likely to listen to you.

boundtobe · Yesterday 17:24

The interesting point is that you (and other commentators) are all reluctant to report as you'd have to declare a falling out with your neighbour to potential buyers. I fully understand why but isn't it awful that someone else will be in the same position x number of months down the line?

There should be a blanket no noise above x decibels at any time of the day or night to keep the rest of us sane.

fundamentallyauthentic · Yesterday 17:50

boundtobe · Yesterday 17:24

The interesting point is that you (and other commentators) are all reluctant to report as you'd have to declare a falling out with your neighbour to potential buyers. I fully understand why but isn't it awful that someone else will be in the same position x number of months down the line?

There should be a blanket no noise above x decibels at any time of the day or night to keep the rest of us sane.

It would have to be a very daft person who would move into the house not being aware of the scuzzy neighbours. Any potential buyer with any common sense views a property several times of day and in the week and at the weekend, before deciding to offer or not.

User48236 · Yesterday 18:01

Delatron · Yesterday 17:16

I am. But it is 9am and not 6am! There’s a lot of noise in general at 9am. And worse than music. Roadworks, building works, traffic.

I do have sympathy but your expectations are too high for complete peace and quiet. The neighbour sounds awful but he’s not actually doing anything wrong.

And I always find with neighbours if you’re tolerant and get on then they would be more likely to listen to you.

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@Delatron it’s not just music .. it’s thumping bass and also the repeated sound of weight lifting weights being dropped. Our house literally shakes . Of course no one should live in silence .. it’s 9 am weekends and can be any time weekdays ….normal level music fine but in the garage with doors open blasting on full volume so I can’t hear myself think. Really? I work from home and find it stressful trying to conduct calls except that going on.

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User48236 · Yesterday 18:08

@UncannyFanny no I wouldn’t say I’m especially sensitive.. the evri delivery driver commented on it once !
Of course I don’t expect silence . And we are in a detached house but I knew I’d still hear garden noise etc . But I wasn’t expecting my walls to shake on a regular basis !
I didn’t think it was unreasonable to casually ask if the base could be turned down a bit . It’s not like I flew round demanding an instant stop to their fun., Just done consideration. If that were me which it wouldn’t be as I’m a considerate person . I’d have apologised and just turned the bass off or turned it down a notch .. their back patio is virtually alongside dds window ..

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User48236 · Yesterday 18:20

BuckChuckets · Yesterday 16:22

Is it 9am on weekday mornings as well? I take it you either don't work or work from home? I work from home and could deal with noise for an hour in the morning, and the occasional party. I couldn't cope with regular loud music and noise into the early hours, though. I can understand you being sensitive of you've moved from somewhere that was happening.

@Delatron if you read my op you’ll see we’ve been very tolerant . We’ve had it for months . It’s not just nine am the odd day it’s any time of day in the week and first thing Saturday . It may “only be a. Hour “ each time but it’s floods my house and it’s the bass that’s the issue .. if it was just music it would be fine but it sounds like a rave nearly every day . It’s also not the occasional party . They are out in the garden with bass thumping music constantly .. that I can hear clearly in the house ..
we were friendly when we first moved in and only really mentioned the gym workouts casually literally in conversation .. I think I joked and asked if he got a mega sound system for Christmas as tried to be lighthearted about it
I don’t really feel a polite request to consider their neighbours warranted the abuse and threats …and I’m pretty convinced that the neighbour the other side is selling because of them

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User48236 · Yesterday 18:24

@ElectricSnail I’m really sorry you’ve had to put up with that 😢

we just aren’t going to engage further with them anymore ever and have no intention of escalating .

Tbh I get the impression they didn’t like us from the get go and seemed annoyed the other neighbour moved

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WhatYouWearing · Yesterday 18:29

@User48236 anyone who has experienced noisy aggressive neighbours knows exactly what you are going through and you’re not being sensitive.

Ordinarily I would say log this with police as it seems to be that the person who gets in first is believed. My friend was in a similar situation and the neighbours reported her for being ‘homophobic’.

But if you intend to move I’d say do not interact at all with them and get out quick. Keep a log and record any noise etc so they can’t say you made it up later.

Zanatdy · Yesterday 18:30

That’s awful. I don’t know what’s wrong with people who are so blooming inconsiderate. I had to go out into the corridor of my block of flats last weekend and help the neighbours calm down her very drunken husband who it seems had flipped after 5yrs of noisy neighbours about them. It could have been a lot worse than it was and I felt for the teenage sons who were holding their dad back.

I am so conscious of noise, and wouldn’t dream of making that kind of noise at such early or late hours. I am buying my own house after 25yrs renting and glad I stretched myself and gone for detached, though of course that doesn’t mean you won’t have issues. These people are selfish A holes.

User48236 · Yesterday 18:34

@WhatYouWearing I get a horrible feeling this isn’t the end of it - I actually work in the entertainment industry and have organised drag queen events and have many gay friends .as well as a gay son ... I had hoped they were going to be lovely neighbours ..his husband seems really nice but you rarely see him .. this would be our first summer in the house and now it feels like it’s ruined 😕

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Btp · Yesterday 18:36

We had this for 3 years, parties on Monday evenings(they worked weekends) but noisy every day, drug dealing, threats of violence aimed at me, we believe he was a police informer, hence police and council were useless , he moved out , we found a noise app online and we finally proved the noise that was coming from next door and she finally moved out

User48236 · Yesterday 18:36

@Zanatdy Good luck with your house move x
we bought detached too thinking it would be peaceful 😔

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mumofthemonsters808 · Yesterday 18:40

You have my utter sympathy we had similar neighbours and we put up with it for years there was just no reasoning with them too.We sold up and it was one of the best decisions we ever made.We should of done it sooner.I remember coming home once and my vases from the mantelpiece were on the floor smashed the walls literally vibrated due to their pounding music.It was all times of the day and night, the sunny days were always the worse.Your home is your castle and you need to live in peace,

Zanatdy · Yesterday 18:48

User48236 · Yesterday 18:36

@Zanatdy Good luck with your house move x
we bought detached too thinking it would be peaceful 😔

Thanks. Yeah guess there’s no guarantee is there.

WhatYouWearing · Yesterday 18:51

User48236 · Yesterday 18:34

@WhatYouWearing I get a horrible feeling this isn’t the end of it - I actually work in the entertainment industry and have organised drag queen events and have many gay friends .as well as a gay son ... I had hoped they were going to be lovely neighbours ..his husband seems really nice but you rarely see him .. this would be our first summer in the house and now it feels like it’s ruined 😕

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You should have a huge party and invite all your friends! Sounds like he’s decided he doesn’t like you before he’s even tried. He probably didn’t like the previous neighbour, just wanted to control them to endure it.

Did anyone else overhear the threat he made to you?