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AIBU to feel life in the UK has worsened since Covid?

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MerryAmberViper · 22/05/2026 22:39

feel everything is just getting worse since covid

Im on a good salary of 32k live alone entitled to no benefits and lucky enough I can afford to put heating on in winter but have to be careful

crime everywhere with lenient punishment or sometimes no punishment at all
everyone seems entitled angry or depressed and no one seems to care about following the law
clear resentment and disagreement in country people on social media saying vote green or vote reform and if you dont you are terrible
divided country especially with brexit when inflation being caused by covid and the war brexit hasnt changed much
stagnant salaries if you can even get a job at all
everything expensive
people on great salaries of 100k+ moaning about the tax they pay because they are bad with managing their money even though they are on over double average salary when people like myself manage on much less
massive wealth inequality
NHS and public services run down
terrible government both tories and labour

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WTAFIsWrongWithPeople · Yesterday 09:19

MerryAmberViper · 22/05/2026 23:04

wonder if the NHS or UK as a whole will ever improve

just seems to keep going downhill

Funny you should ask that.

Here’s just one of the impacts of Brexit on the NHS. I bet this isn’t what you thought you were voting for, but it decimated the NHS Trust I worked for. And then we had a second wave of exits after the appalling handling of Covid by the government - we lost loads of British staff, either to non-NHS jobs or they moved abroad where conditions are better.

Slow clap for you and your “£350m for the NHS” cronies who couldn’t spot a lie if it sat on your nose.

www.surrey.ac.uk/news/brexit-has-caused-1485-additional-deaths-year-due-eu-nurses-leaving-uk

GoodkneeBadKnee · Yesterday 09:24

ChristPleaseJustStop · 22/05/2026 23:03

Of course things have got more expensive for you. They've got more expensive for everyone.

The NHS is still poor.

We've got and had terrible governments across the whole country.

You don't need to lie to try and pretend you're somehow better than everyone else so these things that affect everyone don't affect you! If you really think you are better than everyone else and don't get touched by plebeian things like pricing or the NHS, then prove it.

Things being more expensive haven't affected me because I live within my means. I don't buy things I can't afford. Water bill has gone up, annoyingly, but like all bills, you find a way, right?Luckily. I haven't needed to use the NHS since Covid. I never said I'm better than anyone, so not sure where you got that from? Also, plebian? Are you OK??

dreamreal · Yesterday 09:26

So you voted Brexit OP and are now living the reality of what you voted for.

WTAFIsWrongWithPeople · Yesterday 09:35

dreamreal · Yesterday 09:26

So you voted Brexit OP and are now living the reality of what you voted for.

Indeed. I love the concept that you can just ignore the impact of such a monumental -clusterfuck- change to our constitution and blame all the troubles on other things.

But then quite a large proportion of people expected sunshine and rainbows and ignored/couldn’t understand any of the serious messages being shared on the downsides.

Friendlygingercat · Yesterday 09:55

I can understand the higher earners of around £100,000 and the amount they lose to the grubby hands of the tax man because of cliff edges. They are probably people (like myself) who studied for many years to qualify in their profession. Each salary rise is worth far less becaue the system is corrupt and unfair. At my GP all the doctors work part time - and probaby pay large sums into their pension fund rather than having it filched from them.There is a temptation to drop your hours and find a cash in hand side hustle to beat the system. As a single pensioner I have put my share into the community and am still being exonomically raped to pay for services I do now want and cannot use.

FoulBlister · Yesterday 11:11

Your Original Post is 100% negative and sounds like it's been 90% driven by social media and the constant drip, drip of negative articles in the media.

Get out in the world - travel by train, meet real people, see a million acts of kindness and generosity happen every day. Watch people move around London on efficient public transport - helping mums with prams on and off buses and standing up so older folk can sit down on the tube. See hundreds of thousands of people stand back to let people off first.

So many millions of people abiding the law, enjoying the free museums, safely having picnics with their families in parks, working to make our streets clean/safe/efficient, volunteering to put flowers in parks, donating to charity, litter picking, paying taxes and thinking that's the price you pay for society.

I've just traveled Britain extensively by public transport for six months. I have witnessed no crime, been taken everywhere by efficient buses and trains operated by polite, knowledgeable, kind, helpful staff. I've eaten fantastic local food and met thousands of interesting, fun, gentle people from overseas tourists to Indian waiters here to learn the language to policemen to old ladies on benches.

Not everyone is resentful, angry, entitled, lawbreaking or depressed and, if the people you meet in your day to day life are then change the people you meet.

Yes the economy is taking a nose dive for lots of reasons VERY MUCH INCLUDING BREXIT, yes some people will always be greedy, but there is SO MUCH GOOD.

Anyone who says Broken Britain is missing a lot of really good stuff that goes on right under their nose a million times every single day.

Judellie · Yesterday 16:37

ColdAsAWitches · 22/05/2026 23:20

Every other European country had COVID, energy cost increases and austerity. They are not falling apart the way the UK is. Saying Brexit is only a tiny part of the problem is sticking your fingers in your ears because you don't want to hear the truth.

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Not certain about that; was in Arnhem in the Netherlands last week and the place was filthy; I don't think they ever clean their 'intercity' trains tho the local ones weren't as bad. Basically the UK is a LOT cleaner then it was there and I'm grateful for that.

ByPinkOP · Yesterday 16:42

MerryAmberViper · 22/05/2026 22:49

@Huckleberries oh dont be redicilous I just tried that and you still have over double what I earn after tax

So you pay childcare and living costs for two/three other people on that?

Oasisinthearea · Yesterday 16:47

Yeh it’s all shit. 2012 was the last decent year

JLou08 · Yesterday 16:52

You can't blame Labour really. They're trying to fix the mess after 14 years of a Conservative government, Covid and Brexit, all of which led to declines in physical and mental health, a huge growth in the wealth gap, decline in education provision and the growth of racism and misogyny.

ByPinkOP · Yesterday 16:58

GoodkneeBadKnee · Yesterday 09:24

Things being more expensive haven't affected me because I live within my means. I don't buy things I can't afford. Water bill has gone up, annoyingly, but like all bills, you find a way, right?Luckily. I haven't needed to use the NHS since Covid. I never said I'm better than anyone, so not sure where you got that from? Also, plebian? Are you OK??

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So you don’t mind your water bills (a basic necessity) going up (exploited) to pay dividends to already very wealthy people (who aren’t even working to earn that money) and making you poorer?

JohnTheRevelator · Yesterday 17:05

I agree with a lot of what you've said. One thing I've noticed since Covid is a distinct decline in the services that you phone. You are lucky if you get to speak to an actual person nowadays. You just get directed to their website and FAQ (which NEVER has the answer to your question) or their chat service,which is run by robots who never understand what you are asking. A couple of days ago I asked a chatbot on Uber Eats 'How do I change the delivery address on my app?'. It came back 'Sorry,I don't understand the question'. FFS. How much plainer can I make it?! Bring back human beings!

Lahsania · Yesterday 17:06

I think things are much worse in the past five years, yes. I loathe that shoplifters have made it that you can’t get out of some supermarkets without a receipt and a turnstile, and there a big signs everywhere about shoplifting. I also loathe that there are barely any staff in supermarkets, it’s all self service. The human elenment to life feels massively compromised. Cyclists now cycle through red lights and on the pavement, being a pedestrian is less e joyanle and safe, an elderly lady killed on a crossing near me, she wasn’t fast enough, a car just mowed her down and didn’t stop. It’s horrible, even the park is full of Entitled groups playing their music loudly so that it’s not a peaceful retreat. Quality of life has plummeted.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · Yesterday 17:06

I’m not on £100k plus but the cliff edge including no tax free childcare would put me working over that. It’s is very poor policy stopping people working more.

FrangipaniBlue · Yesterday 17:10

MerryAmberViper · 22/05/2026 22:59

I dont get why though, living on the uk on 6k a month after tax is easy
if you cant your bad at managing your money

It’s not about being bad with money.

it’s about begrudging paying over 50% of my wages in tax and NI every month.

Why don’t you try handing over 50% of your earnings to the government and see how that makes you feel?

Lahsania · Yesterday 17:11

FoulBlister · Yesterday 11:11

Your Original Post is 100% negative and sounds like it's been 90% driven by social media and the constant drip, drip of negative articles in the media.

Get out in the world - travel by train, meet real people, see a million acts of kindness and generosity happen every day. Watch people move around London on efficient public transport - helping mums with prams on and off buses and standing up so older folk can sit down on the tube. See hundreds of thousands of people stand back to let people off first.

So many millions of people abiding the law, enjoying the free museums, safely having picnics with their families in parks, working to make our streets clean/safe/efficient, volunteering to put flowers in parks, donating to charity, litter picking, paying taxes and thinking that's the price you pay for society.

I've just traveled Britain extensively by public transport for six months. I have witnessed no crime, been taken everywhere by efficient buses and trains operated by polite, knowledgeable, kind, helpful staff. I've eaten fantastic local food and met thousands of interesting, fun, gentle people from overseas tourists to Indian waiters here to learn the language to policemen to old ladies on benches.

Not everyone is resentful, angry, entitled, lawbreaking or depressed and, if the people you meet in your day to day life are then change the people you meet.

Yes the economy is taking a nose dive for lots of reasons VERY MUCH INCLUDING BREXIT, yes some people will always be greedy, but there is SO MUCH GOOD.

Anyone who says Broken Britain is missing a lot of really good stuff that goes on right under their nose a million times every single day.

I don’t believe you. You will also have had many many many many many cancelled trains, rude elbowing louts, been unable to find staff to ask questions of, and had to listen to blaring crap music on tinny phone speakers. I travel around Britain all the time for work, and in london à huge amount. It’s taken a nose dive. Fact.

MerryAmberViper · Yesterday 20:17

ByPinkOP · Yesterday 16:42

So you pay childcare and living costs for two/three other people on that?

@ByPinkOP having children is your decision
your responsibility

i chose not to have children

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MerryAmberViper · Yesterday 20:18

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FoulBlister · Yesterday 20:19

Lahsania · Yesterday 17:11

I don’t believe you. You will also have had many many many many many cancelled trains, rude elbowing louts, been unable to find staff to ask questions of, and had to listen to blaring crap music on tinny phone speakers. I travel around Britain all the time for work, and in london à huge amount. It’s taken a nose dive. Fact.

No cancelled trains at all. Some delays but none more than 15 minutes.
No elbowing. No louts. No tinny music - I saw posters telling people to use earphones and that's all I saw, never any noise from them.

I imagine if you're the sort of person who calls complete strangers liars you tend to look for the negative side of life.

MerryAmberViper · Yesterday 20:21

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · Yesterday 17:06

I’m not on £100k plus but the cliff edge including no tax free childcare would put me working over that. It’s is very poor policy stopping people working more.

I do get that as the uk has a productivity problem

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scalt · Yesterday 20:24

cloudtreecarpet · 22/05/2026 23:18

I think the main change since Covid is that people are generally more selfish, insular and unwilling to support their fellow citizens.

There is also a general mistrust of the state, politicians of all parties and of authority and as a nation we are very politically unengaged.

More & more people don't see politics as a way to change things and it seems if they could they would rather just sort their own little world out and not engage with wider society and doing things "for the greater good" at all.

And the worst culprit was that shining beacon of integrity and truth, the prime minister. He certainly didn’t care about the greater good. The only thing he cared about was Boris Johnson.

Crushed23 · Yesterday 20:25

That’s the case across the whole world, with very few exceptions (such as Lisbon and New York, both of which are going through a post-Covid mini golden age, IMO).

Basically, all the shit that people on MN endlessly moan about is absolutely not unique to the UK. Far from it.

MerryAmberViper · Yesterday 20:26

scalt · Yesterday 20:24

And the worst culprit was that shining beacon of integrity and truth, the prime minister. He certainly didn’t care about the greater good. The only thing he cared about was Boris Johnson.

yes I dont understand people who supported someone so disqusting

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fairydustt · Yesterday 20:43

MerryAmberViper · Yesterday 20:17

@ByPinkOP having children is your decision
your responsibility

i chose not to have children

If people don’t have children there will be nobody to pay your state pension in years to come, no nurses or doctors to care for you when you’re old, etc etc. obviously it’s fine to choose not to have children, but everyone depends on the next generation existing, including those who don’t have children, such as yourself.

HaveYouFedTheFish · Yesterday 20:48

MerryAmberViper · 22/05/2026 22:54

@ColdAsAWitches really? What has it actually changed? I havent noticed anything unless maybe you go on holiday to europe regularly

The inflation/cost of living crisis is all related to the wars and covid, brexit maybe a tiny amount at most.

The wars and covid should have impacted every country in the world equally.

Of course there are indeed negative consequences worldwide, but if you think it's especially bad in the UK then the one thing the UK did to itself that no other country did was indeed Brexit...

So either Brexit is partly to blame, or your post is about the state of the world, not specifically the UK...