Male hospital staff

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I don't really know how i feel about this or if I'm just being a bit precious. I had an appointment for a transvaginal ultrasound a couple of weeks ago. I was a bit shocked to find the sonographer was a man. A female nurse was present and she did all the talking, he barely said a word to me. I have had ultrasounds before but they have always been done by women. He was professional and nothing out of the ordinary happened but I felt a bit awkward as I haven't had a man down there except my husband in 20+ years, not even a male doctor. Am I wrong in thinking I should have been told it was going to be done by a man, maybe given the option to request a woman or AIBU?

How do we have privacy though? I have gone to a walk in doctor and i have heard everyones ailment, that came in the door. The receptionist shouts questions at them, and the people coming in are standing right beside everyone else

I frankly do question any man choosing to spend his whole working life in gtnacology) you do have issues. Think the same about women working in (non female) urology?

you experienced lack of patience with men
I only ever experienced it with women.

Being an unsympathetic and uncaring doctor is not gender related. I have been in pain with procedure, it was ALWAYS when done by a woman, never by a man.

I look forward to the day it's 50/50.

I always request a female for gynae care. You need to request in advance because there's a lot of men working in gynaecology for some reason.

This thread makes me think so many jobs end up getting given to women because men are proven to be untrustworthy perverts. I’m sure a lot of TV presenting jobs are given to applicants with significantly lower chances of a financially punishing Me Too moment (ie women).

What a sad state of affairs they have brought upon themselves.

It's not gender , it's sex .

I’ve had more than 30 trans vaginal scans and they’ve always been done by men. I’ve never thought about until reading this post.

I think many men have been more empathetic and able to understand my feelings than many women. Assuming a man can’t understand a women’s pov whereas all women can is just plain silly.

Well a woman can understand what menstruation feels like, and other female issues, better than a man can.

I guess we all have our boundaries and that should be okay, shouldn’t it? I have had 3 male gynaecologists with no issue at all, even through IVF and difficult smears. However, I did have to go for a trans-vaginal scan, the sonography always seems to be the same woman and she was there to oversee, but she had a male trainee with her. She asked if I minded and I said no, but she spelled out exactly which bits she would be doing then what he would be doing and it was fine. This guy was hugely tall and very quiet and to be honest I did leave the room feeling a bit guilty that I was relieved that she was still ‘in charge’.

The next woman to go in after me was already shaking with fear, really upset or worried, before she went in and as soon as she walked in the room I heard her shriek “he’s not touching me!”. I felt kind of bad for him but the more I think about it I think I am uncomfortable at the thought of being in a small room with a man who is about to penetrate me with the scanning wand. And if you have to bring in a female nurse to chaperone every time, how is that cost effective?

The only time I had decided I would object to a man is if the mammographer was male, it’s just too unpleasant and uncomfortable as it is. I’m relieved that a pp said that they are always female.

doubt it

When there are threads on here where women deny the existence of heavy periods - because theirs are manageable, so every period in the world must be manageable

even if you expect a lot more intelligence with a medical doctor, being female does not give you a full understanding of everything.

I sincerely hope a female gynaecologist has no personal experience and understanding of every issue she's dealing with 😂

I have no idea why any man would seek to train in this job and think it’s shocking that the NHS would allow it.

Over a 5 year period there were 4000 accusations of rape, sexual assault, or harassment against male NHS staff. Only 576 faced disciplinary action.

There have now been several horrendous cases of rape in a hospital (by a patient) where hospital staff have actively lied to police and withheld evidence. They still haven’t caught the man who raped 76 yr old stroke patient in her hospital room so violently that she haemorrhaged and died.

Im invent saying that all make NHS staff are rapists before I get the accusations. I am saying that the NHS have a serious problem with employing men who turn out to be sex offenders so it is unconscionable to impose a man for such an intimate treatment without even letting her have the option to choose a woman.

Putting women in a such vulnerable position with a man without warning is absolutely shocking. Given the choice I’m sure the majority of women would choose another woman for that procedure - I know I was glad to have a woman - why recruit a man to do it?

I actually know the answer to that question, because ‘EDI’ activists throughout the NHS decided that there are not enough men doing these jobs for absolutely no reason at all and are pushing hard to ensure there are no female only spaces or services for *reasons.

I wish you luck in requesting a woman next time.

Sorry, where does it say there's a choice?

People keep saying this. They're medical professionals.

Male medical professionals have been found to rape and abuse vulnerable women. It's not rare. It's not unheard of. Abusive men seek out vulnerable women. Including unconscious women, women in comas, elderly frail women, mentally ill women. Children FFS.

It's not women's fault men are sex offenders.

😂😂😂

Do you remember when that male medical professional orally raped his patient while she was having surgery?

Mine was male it was at one of those clinics in hospital where they just do a day of scanning so people would be in for all sorts and they had multiple rooms with people being called in, I presume it was you got who you got maybe when they got to your file. It did dawn on me while I was sat there they could be male and as I could see a few male scanners. I did have a female chaperone and she was lovely and the guy just cracked on really was covered in sheets so not like he could see anything. He asked for consent and she also explained the procedure too and consent etc so wasn’t a bad experience

At least 1 in 4 women in the uk have been raped or sexually assaulted (by men in 99.999 of cases), that’s a huge amount of women. And out of the rest of us, most have experienced multiple incidents of men being inappropriate or creepy or making us feel scared or vulnerable. Is it reallyyyyy such a stretch to understand why some women just aren’t comfortable with a male stranger at such an intimate/vulnerable/exposed time?

Yes, they always offer one at mine.

Undoubtedly I expect some men might appreciate a woman's point of view and show sympathy to her feelings, but they could never understand the fear and the feeling of helplessness and vulnerability that many women will feel when undergoing certain procedures involving examination and penetration of their genitals. And, as is evident from this thread, neither can some women.

I must be made different. Unlike everyone on here or most people, I’m really surprised that you weren’t informed or asked

It’s an extremely intimate thing. It’s basically shoving something like a dildo up your vagina.

And yes, they’re a medical professional, but surely there are loads of women that would not be comfortable with us women a certain religions, Women Who have been victims of sexual violence.

What would’ve thought that it was a sensitive enough procedure with enough women that would have a problem with it that it would’ve been discussed beforehand

They must see 100s of fannies.

Absolutely. But I only have one and I prefer to have a choice in who sees and touches mine!

Still doesn’t mean I want some strange man. I don’t know sticking something like a dildo up my vagina. Professional or not

The NHS policy .

Because mammographers are, and transvaginal ultrasounds are much more intimately invasive; if they warn people that a male cleaner is in the toilets, why would they not warn you that your appointment to be medically vaginally penetrated is with a male doctor?

I never see a male HCP and this is written on my notes. This didn’t stop a male trainee sonographer bouncing up to me in the waiting room and telling me he will be doing my scan today. He became very angry when I said no and that I wanted a female. He told me he needed to learn and I told him he might be more successful if he asked a patient if he could perform the scan rather than telling them. You know, consent and all that. His female supervisor was not happy with me and was very curt and my scan was unnecessarily painful.

I complained to PALS to no avail.