To think some older women having tax payers funded ivf are hypocrites?

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There seems to be a substantial group of people who are ok with calling teen mums a waste of their tax money but then leave child bearing too late and expect the tax payers to foot the bill for their multiple ivf cycles which costs the tax payer up to 100 million a year.

Hypocrites!!!

Completely ignorant.
Most people try for years before doing IVF.
In 2026 most women are not just having a baby with any old bum. It can take a long time to find someone suitable you want to have a baby with.

But it's not the act they're having IVF that makes them hypocritical. Or the fact they are older than you think parents should be (judgemental in a different way by the way). It's just those people being who they are.

Post about them specifically rather than having a go at a whole group of people who have nothing to do with it.

My mum. She's been with my dad for 38 years, works, and they've been living in the same housing association house since 1996 (and she's the only one on the tenancy agreement.)

those threads have been done before many times in the 20+ years of mumsnet existence. I’ve read a couple. Usually brings out all the people who insist every single teen mum they’ve ever met only had children to get a free house from the council.

Hopefully this will get the judgemental ones thinking about their own hypocrisy

I don’t judge either group of mums - just want to preface by saying that.

However your post is missing the mark by a mile.

The women who “left it too late” would have had years of NI and tax contributions, likely have some sort of stability (housing, savings, childcare money) that the teenagers would not have built up over the years.

Also YABU to link infertility to age alone. IVF on the NHS is not offered to anyone over 40. You may be able to get one cycle under 42.

But the "taking money from the taxpayers" are for 2 completely different reasons

1. Teen mum didn't bother to think of the consequences - not health related, just poor planning and statistically goes on for a very long time
2. Woman faces fertility issues which the NHS have a very strict protocol and testing around - medical related and once off. NHS won't fund just because!

I suggested deleting the thread because you just seem butthurt and your OP doesn't actually get to the point you are trying to make.

There is a difference between taking from the pot you've added to for years for medical treatment (women having IVF at a later age), and never paying into the pot but using it to live off (some teen mum's and people on benefits who could work).

It's not hypocritical to not want your tax to pay for someone else's life, but use the medical services you pay for.

I have nothing against teen mum's. But I have a relative who manages to get away without working despite being completely capable and gets a lot of benefits. I pay a lot of tax. That feels unfair, no? Is it hypocritical that I've been for tests on the NHS this morning?

No I completely agree. But then I think that any sniff of mistreatment of a child and you should have the ability to procreate removed.

the population would tank of course but the damage that the wrong parents do which then gets passed through generations is horrific.

Sorry this is complete nonsense. I knew quite a few teenage mums, most were treated with respect and kindness. Most women needing ivf are not having it because they left it too late!

You obviously feel bitter towards someone in your life.

My former dil. Pregnant at 15, now 39 and has worked for well over 20 years, stable relationship of 10+ years and pays her own rent. There are tens of thousands like her.

Are you seeking such places out? I’ve never seen them because I haven’t gone looking for them.

You’re not very bright are you OP?

Why shouldn't it be socially acceptable to have IVF on the NHS? Are you against IVF?

Neither are you. Are you pibrea?

You've clearly name changed as I've read this same thing before - you clearly have a huge chip on your shoulder about having a baby at 15......

Do you know how restricted IVF on the NHS is? It’s not given out like smarties you know. I was 23 when I had my first of six cycles of IVF - had to pay privately for all 6 because the NHS criteria deemed me too young.

30 is old? For someone who did not liked being judged, you are very judgmental of others ...

There are some benefit bashers on Mumsnet but not the majority by any means. Without other information I guess that a teenage mum got pregnant accidentally and decided to go ahead rather than terminate, which is understandable.

I am not judging. This is biologically the age fertility starts to fall off. That’s a fact not my own judgement

A biological fact that fertility begins to decline, yes. Not a biological fact that all mums from 30 onwards are old.

Reform are going to stop people shitposting on Mumsnet?

😂

My friend is having it because a cycle or 2 of IVF will be cheaper in the long run than medicating a child with a degenerative genetic disease and using IVF they can pick out the eggs that are unaffected.

Finally a reason to vote reform 🤣🤣🤣🤣