And just like that... MAFS is over

[mumofoneAloneandwell]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8pz1k4r2lo

It was coming. You dont get good reality TV without people suffering.

This news however is awful. Bloody awful.

Who says they won't get a fair trial?

Is that you Brad?

Looks that way, doesn’t it? Poor men. 🙄

”unable to control his lust” really equates to being a rapist in my view. I have been with my husband for 43 years. 39 married. We used the “pull out” method. We have two sons, one a drunken error (on both our parts) but the best one we ever made, one planned. At no time was he ever “unable to control his lust”. If you’re unable to “control your lust”, you should never be around women.

I know when an orgasm is building. Do you think it's different with men?

He wouldn't know until the very last second that he was 'there'?

Why wasn’t he?

@IhateborisSomeone watched ‘Believe me’!

Yes! Wasn't it brilliant (but depressing and very upsetting)?

I can't quote now but bloody hell I clearly missed something that was obvious to everyone else earlier when I defended TidyRaven for commenting that Polly had temper tantrums over Adam not sleeping with her. I thought they were just joining in the wider convo going on where we'd discussed how experts actively coerced people to have sex (as Adam and Polly were one such couple). I do not agree with any of the victim blaming posts!

@IhateborisSO good. I think everyone should watch it!

We sporadically watch it. It was very uncomfortable at times and this year a lady was bullied and shown in an awful light because she didn’t like who she’d been matched with.
the original shows were good, no drama of this sort and followed much nicer path to maybe being together.

the other reality tv show that turns my stomach is the one about virgins. Some of these people appear very vulnerable and they are filmed doing things that are very intimate. That’s a show I’d love to see banned - it’s exploitation

Oh are you part of that JIMS mob?

Rape is when you don’t consent to sex. She did consent.
Well done you, just isn’t something you I’d recommend unless you want a baby or an STI.

Totally agree. Naked dating, some program about Virginity and other such programs should be banned. The programs are basically to get two strangers to have sex. How long before we get the action filmed.The people who appear are all 'wanting to be famous' or narcissistic - probably both. Blind Date was a bit of fun ( originally)

Geordie shore showed filmed sex. So reality TV has already been there @MrsScarecrow😖

So what's all the fuss about children viewing porn on their phones. Within a few years it'll be on Channel 4.

This reminds me of seeing an episode of The Bachelor - the American version, many years ago. It happened to be on the near finale episode of that particular season or something and it must of been whittled down to two women (The very premise of the Bachelor was misogyny on steroids) anyway I watched in horrific fascination as these two women supposedly went head to head for his affections. I was surprised to see he had to attend dinner at the home of the family of each of the two women and give a spiel on why she was so special to the disapproval or enthusiasm of the varying family members at the dinner table etc etc...extra scripted BS etc.

Anyway in this particular episode there was also an evening date with each of the women (separately) and there was clearly a push either by the programme or the bachelor himself to suggest spending the night together and being intimate and having sex.

One of the women acted like she was only to eager and the suggestion was they spent the night together.

The other woman was not happy to go that far, I cannot remember why,it may have been that she felt it was inappropriate, or felt the relationship wasn't solid (which, lets face it it wasn't) because he hadn't chosen either of the women...yet.

I remember the disapproval coming from the bachelor and the insinuation from the programme narrator that she was being...uptight and not as fun as the other contestant. Not open to being vulnerable and less emotional or that she clearly didn't really want him and other such nonsense. It was not so subtle coercion and shaming.

I think this MAFS debacle could potentially open the doors to other claims from other similar format programmes. Channel 4 seem to be aware of that and are not really accepting the claims, just saying their safeguarding was good as far as they were aware at the time. Probably because they know the potential for this to become a flood.

Why do you think rape is less horrific if someone has made unwise decisions before? Is it 'less bad' as it's partly their fault? Does that also apply to murder & theft victims in your view?

She consented to pull out sex, which he did not do. Similar to stealthing imo, which is recognised as rape

Do you see stealthing as rape?

You would think condoms would be part of the deal with all of them shagging each other.

I've never actually watched the programme, either the UK or the Australian one. But I know all about it because it's frequently discussed on Gogglebox (are Channel 4 going to pull all those episodes too?) I also know all about it because one woman of my acquaintance cannot wait until each programme is over so she can tear into whatever contestant she's taken a dislike to. She puts anyone down who doesn't share her enthusiasm as "a snob" Like so much of reality TV, it's a licence to be cruel because we all know that nastiness sells better than decency. I'm reminded of that line in Gladiator where Russell Crowe throws his arms wide in the area and bellows at the crowd: "Are you not entertained?"

Who would I get an STI from?

I agree. I have never understood why anyone with any self-respect would agree to appear on such a programme, or why anyone with any decency would watch one.

Gosh, it’s getting crowded up there on the moral high ground.