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AIBU to feel hopeful that the British public could push the government to act on the climate emergency and avoid the point of no return?

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beeble347 · 17/05/2026 14:59

Donning my hard hat, but here goes. I'm an ordinary mum, since having my DS I've been very concerned about the stark statistics on the climate emergency and what it means for my family's safety. I have no background in science, but have done my best to educate myself on this topic and try to note down statistics exactly as reported.

I recently went to a screening of the People's Emergency Briefing, a 45 minute film featuring Chris Packham, Jennifer Saunders and Deborah Meaden, as well as ordinary members of the public. It showed talks by a number of professors (from Oxford University, UCL, Newcastle and so on) and experts in their field. It was hard-hitting but I actually felt hopeful at the end and motivated to lobby my MP and county councillors, some of whom attended the same screening and took part in the discussion afterwards. Some have already replied to me with encouraging emails about their support for the issue, action they have taken to reduce our local emissions.

Experts are warning that current trajectories in our use of fossil fuels risk warming the planet by 3-4 degrees C by the end of this century. Nobody wants to hear this, but the UK would become uninhabitable. The temperature and weather changes that would result in the UK would mean we couldn't grow food in our soil.

Even keeping planetary warming to 2 degrees C would require a yearly reduction in emissions of 13%. The world is expected to cross the threshold of 1.5C global warming in the next 3-5 years. The UK has reduced its actual emissions (including international aviation and shipping, and imports and exports) by about 20% since 1990, or an average of 0.6% each year.

I really feel it's the public's right to be informed about the urgency of the situation and how tangible and possible the solutions are, if only the government realises how much support there is for these changes. Thinking about the climate emergency felt so hopeless before, but I actually feel a sense of possibility now.

I know not everyone will agree with me or want to discuss this, but I wanted to share some facts on the topic. I also think so many, if not all, of the major issues concerning voters today are fundamental linked to the climate emergency. As someone said in this film, "the physics doesn't care about politics". I think we all have a lot more in common than we realise. I thought we had more time to delay taking action, but it really is a national emergency. But the research has already been done effectively, the solutions are right there and they're not beyond our reach.

Voters:
81.5% of the British public said they were deeply concerned about climate impacts in 2026.

National security (expert - Lt General Richard Nugee): this was one I found most shocking

  • climate change meaning farmers can no longer earn a living, means they are more likely to be recruited by "non state actors" as the Lt Gen says happened in Afghanistan and Iraq with ISIS
  • the melting Arctic ice is a new potential for conflict. Apparently Russia is declaring it an "internal sea" whereas the UK is not alone in treating the Arctic as international waters. So a risk of conflict over access, resources and shipping routes.
  • then there's the obvious impact on migration as places in the global south are hit harder and earlier by extreme weather events

Housing:
Up to 1 in 4 properties in the UK will be at risk of flooding by 2050.
Houses are continuing to be built today that won't withstand the more extreme weather (including heat, think of the 40 degrees reached in summer of 2022) that we will continue to experience

Cost of living:
Continued nature depletion in the next decade could significantly impact GDP, a decline of up to 12%. The 2008 financial crisis caused a decline in UK GDP of 6.3%.

The fossil fuels system wastes about 2/3 of its potential energy when it's used. The example given was if you put £18 of petrol in your car, you get £6 worth of energy from it to actually move its wheels.

Food security:
With the closure of the Strait of Hormuz and the impact on international shipping and fertiliser prices, food prices are projected to increase by 50% by November. We need to be supporting British agriculture and making best use of the land we have available. Secondly, we have to support farmers in mitigating flooding and extreme heat and frosts.

Cost of Net Zero:

  • £4 billion a year, paid back by 2041, represents 0.2% of GDP
  • saves $12 trillion compared to staying on fossil fuels
  • inflation would have been 7% lower if we had decarbonised the energy sector
  • the total estimated cost of the UK transition to Net Zero is now 73% cheaper than thought (5 years ago)
  • In the last decade, the cost of offshore wind energy production has dropped 50%. The cost of solar has dropped by 70%.

Points of Hope:

  • electric vehicles were expected to have 20% of the market share by 2030. They have already reached that benchmark and are projected to have 40% market share by 2030.
  • the UK has one fifth of the world's offshore wind capacity

This isn't everything but I wanted to start the conversation. I've joined a local branch of a national organisation pushing for action on the climate emergency. I've written to my MP and local county councillors, one of whom told me to set a weekly reminder and email my local representatives - she said parties at the moment don't know what they stand for and pressure from the public IS effective. I'm growing my own vegetables, joined my local nature group and hoping to start a seed swap.

Sorry for the length of this and if I've posted in the wrong place. I felt really hopeless and alone in the face of the climate emergency but I can see the momentum that's gathering and hope that this may reach someone who wasn't aware of some of the facts, who does want change and who gets some inspiration for how to make that change happen.

OP posts:
OneTealShaker · 19/05/2026 20:29

tonyhawks23 · 19/05/2026 20:00

You've inspired me to join the green party OP and will write to my MP.id like to see the emergency briefing televised like COVID was as it seems tricky for me to see it due to bedtimes!

You’ve been inspired to join the greens, lol.

Who told you the care about the environment. They are into legalizing class A drugs and promoting gender self ID because they believe men can be women.

kittycity · 19/05/2026 20:45

OneTealShaker · 19/05/2026 20:27

The fact is that everyone in this country could live in a cave to satisfy the virtue signalling climate activists, if still wouldn’t make any difference to global emissions. Zero, zilch, nada.

Absolutely pointless.

I'd rather do something than just give up. I know that I can't do everything, something is always better than nothing. Think about voting. Each vote is a single act by one person, together they add up.

randomchap · 19/05/2026 20:53

OneTealShaker · 19/05/2026 20:27

The fact is that everyone in this country could live in a cave to satisfy the virtue signalling climate activists, if still wouldn’t make any difference to global emissions. Zero, zilch, nada.

Absolutely pointless.

So are you denying climate change, or that consumption in the UK is one of the causes?

Either way, it's a ridiculous position to take.

Are you anti-science generally, or just on climate science?

OneTealShaker · 19/05/2026 21:55

kittycity · 19/05/2026 20:45

I'd rather do something than just give up. I know that I can't do everything, something is always better than nothing. Think about voting. Each vote is a single act by one person, together they add up.

The two are not the same. Bible sentiment but doing something that makes 0 difference is a self indulgence. Nothing more.

RingoJuice · 20/05/2026 05:19

Moonmelodies · 19/05/2026 12:39

China use the same quantity of concrete every three years that the USA used in the entire 20th century - not much in my home is made from Chinese concrete.

It’s just annoying that people think China lacks agency. We may have done some deals to open manufacturing in China, but sole foreign ownership is not allowed in China, which keeps a lot of the benefits local. They produce so much more than the West ever did, and have enriched themselves by their own productivity and vision.

In fact, more third world countries should look at what China has done and copy it. But they are unable to accomplish this, which means that China has done something rare and special.

kittycity · 20/05/2026 06:32

OneTealShaker · 19/05/2026 21:55

The two are not the same. Bible sentiment but doing something that makes 0 difference is a self indulgence. Nothing more.

That's the strangest argument I've ever heard. Where does religion come into it? We don't normally talk about biblical sentiment in the UK. The whole point is that if everyone did something, it would make a difference and you have to start somewhere. Change doesn't happen in a day. Change does happen though, otherwise history wouldn't be a concept, we'd all be doing the same thing forever.

Perrygreen · 20/05/2026 07:15

I wish we could. So many people don't care and even our local government "green team" are useless.

One of my friends got rid of a buddleia recently because they "didn't like the bees on it". Lots of neighbours are busy laying plastic grass and driving everywhere.

CoffeeCantata · 20/05/2026 07:20

No - I don't think the British public care enough.

John Lennon once said 'We could have world peace. But people prefer a big telly, don't they?'

Sad, but true. You only have to read MN to find that people object to their standard of living being impacted in any way (in terms of being free to turn up the heating, have long, luxurious showers twice a day, throw away food, drive and fly around without restriction etc etc).

We won't get anywhere until people make a connection between what needs to be done on a big scale and being prepared to make changes in their own behaviour.

I'm not optimistic!!

Moonmelodies · 20/05/2026 07:42

CoffeeCantata · 20/05/2026 07:20

No - I don't think the British public care enough.

John Lennon once said 'We could have world peace. But people prefer a big telly, don't they?'

Sad, but true. You only have to read MN to find that people object to their standard of living being impacted in any way (in terms of being free to turn up the heating, have long, luxurious showers twice a day, throw away food, drive and fly around without restriction etc etc).

We won't get anywhere until people make a connection between what needs to be done on a big scale and being prepared to make changes in their own behaviour.

I'm not optimistic!!

Is that the same John Lennon who had an apartment in New York solely to house his fur coat collection, climate controlled to keep them in peak condition?

CurdinHenry · 20/05/2026 07:45

I'd much rather they didn't focus on this but several generations have been brainwashed

CurdinHenry · 20/05/2026 07:47

CoffeeCantata · 20/05/2026 07:20

No - I don't think the British public care enough.

John Lennon once said 'We could have world peace. But people prefer a big telly, don't they?'

Sad, but true. You only have to read MN to find that people object to their standard of living being impacted in any way (in terms of being free to turn up the heating, have long, luxurious showers twice a day, throw away food, drive and fly around without restriction etc etc).

We won't get anywhere until people make a connection between what needs to be done on a big scale and being prepared to make changes in their own behaviour.

I'm not optimistic!!

I think this is culty.

CoffeeCantata · 20/05/2026 07:56

CurdinHenry · 20/05/2026 07:47

I think this is culty.

What's 'culty'?

I mean - I don't know the word.

CurdinHenry · 20/05/2026 08:19

CoffeeCantata · 20/05/2026 07:56

What's 'culty'?

I mean - I don't know the word.

Cultlike. You honestly believe everyone should suffer for a belief system you think we should all share. Hair shirts and self flagellation.

ClaredeBear · 20/05/2026 08:23

Perrygreen · 20/05/2026 07:15

I wish we could. So many people don't care and even our local government "green team" are useless.

One of my friends got rid of a buddleia recently because they "didn't like the bees on it". Lots of neighbours are busy laying plastic grass and driving everywhere.

It’s sad that we’ve become so disconnected from nature. I’ve seen bug hotels next to plastic grass lain over a grass lawn. This was intended to make the environment better for a child, so sadly they will grow up with an even bigger disconnect. The top of the iceberg; the problem is systemic and I don’t know how we tackle it. It’s huge.

PomplaMouse · 20/05/2026 08:23

CurdinHenry · 20/05/2026 08:19

Cultlike. You honestly believe everyone should suffer for a belief system you think we should all share. Hair shirts and self flagellation.

You think it's cultlike to think people value their personal comfort and convenience over a longer term "greater good"? Honestly, I think it's a very simple and plain observation of human nature.

ClaredeBear · 20/05/2026 08:26

CurdinHenry · 20/05/2026 08:19

Cultlike. You honestly believe everyone should suffer for a belief system you think we should all share. Hair shirts and self flagellation.

I guess people have different ideas about what suffering is and indeed, what a cult is (though there is a clear definition) but in any case, human suffering due to climate change will eclipse things like turning down your heating and putting on an extra layer.

CoffeeCantata · 20/05/2026 08:37

CurdinHenry · 20/05/2026 08:19

Cultlike. You honestly believe everyone should suffer for a belief system you think we should all share. Hair shirts and self flagellation.

Hair shirts? Flagellation? 😂

Calm down - I think your imagination is running away with you!

CoffeeCantata · 20/05/2026 08:40

Moonmelodies · 20/05/2026 07:42

Is that the same John Lennon who had an apartment in New York solely to house his fur coat collection, climate controlled to keep them in peak condition?

Well, I agree that he wasn't necessarily a poster boy for environmentalism - and tbf, I don't think that was the issue it is today when he was alive. Climate change hadn't even been heard of by most of us.

I used that quotation to illustrate the way that most people reject big idealistic goals in favour of short-term, selfish convenience.

CoffeeCantata · 20/05/2026 08:43

ClaredeBear · 20/05/2026 08:26

I guess people have different ideas about what suffering is and indeed, what a cult is (though there is a clear definition) but in any case, human suffering due to climate change will eclipse things like turning down your heating and putting on an extra layer.

This, with bells on.

I remember when James May from (old) Top Gear admitted in an interview that he didn't care about climate change/the environment because he had no children. He was honest, and I give him credit there - many people wouldn't be so brave!

But anyone who has children should be very worried indeed.

Menopausalsourpuss · 20/05/2026 08:48

About 20 years ago I did an OU course about this and it really affected me, I tried to reduce my consumption, didn't get a new kitchen, bought second hand clothes. But then I noticed no one else was bothered and the govt seemed to measure themselves on economic output/GDP which is directly related to consuming more. Their idea of helping the planet seems to be outsourcing jobs and manufacturing to China, making us jobless and poorer to make themselves feel good while actually consuming more of the worlds resources/increasing climate change as all that stuff has to be shipped from China. And will get worse once AI kicks in and we don't manufacture anything. Also they didn't have a long term plan to build nuclear power stations etc as wind etc is intermittent. So I've now given up.

CoffeeCantata · 20/05/2026 08:53

CurdinHenry · 20/05/2026 08:19

Cultlike. You honestly believe everyone should suffer for a belief system you think we should all share. Hair shirts and self flagellation.

Should add - you need to look up the meaning of 'cult'. It's very specific, and doesn't just apply to opinions you don't agree with.

CurdinHenry · 20/05/2026 08:54

CoffeeCantata · 20/05/2026 08:53

Should add - you need to look up the meaning of 'cult'. It's very specific, and doesn't just apply to opinions you don't agree with.

It describes obsessive religious movements that often believe human suffering is the route to redemption

It isn't

CoffeeCantata · 20/05/2026 09:04

CurdinHenry · 20/05/2026 08:54

It describes obsessive religious movements that often believe human suffering is the route to redemption

It isn't

That's a lazy definition - you need to look it up.

If you're worried about human suffering - don't worry - there'll be plenty coming as a result of climate change.

There's plenty now - but fortunately for us in Europe it tends to affect millions of people in less blessed areas, so perhaps you're right after all - why should be care?

Nannyfannybanny · 20/05/2026 09:22

We survived the ice age.. The UK produces less than 1% of global emissions. Of course the soil here won't be too hot to grow crops. I've tried growing melons and fruit we would get from Spain,it's pretty difficult. I read an article saying China is using slave labour for solar panels. Children are used to mine lithium for the car batteries. It said that the wind turbines actually produce more greenhouse gas. When I was at school,my late father said the hole in the ozone layer would cause us all to fry up and die, aerosols were banned in our house,we didn't have a fridge because of the greenhouse gas. It's laughable that people fly thousands of miles to the cop meetings,to tell people not to fly!! A friend of ours is on his third electric car,in 10 years,first one still sitting in the garden. My desiel astra 20 years old finally went to the scrap yard last year.

randomchap · 20/05/2026 10:39

Nannyfannybanny · 20/05/2026 09:22

We survived the ice age.. The UK produces less than 1% of global emissions. Of course the soil here won't be too hot to grow crops. I've tried growing melons and fruit we would get from Spain,it's pretty difficult. I read an article saying China is using slave labour for solar panels. Children are used to mine lithium for the car batteries. It said that the wind turbines actually produce more greenhouse gas. When I was at school,my late father said the hole in the ozone layer would cause us all to fry up and die, aerosols were banned in our house,we didn't have a fridge because of the greenhouse gas. It's laughable that people fly thousands of miles to the cop meetings,to tell people not to fly!! A friend of ours is on his third electric car,in 10 years,first one still sitting in the garden. My desiel astra 20 years old finally went to the scrap yard last year.

We only produce 1% of emissions as we've outsourced manufacturing to other countries. Our goods come from the polluting countries.

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