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to stop extra flexibility after my manager imposed office hours?

565 replies

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 13:02

I work in a small office team of five people. I’m the only full-time member of staff, everyone else is part time. We had a new manager start last year and honestly, up until now, things have been really good. We get on well, I like his management style and he has always said he cared more about people getting the work done than clock-watching.

I work very hard. I consistently hit targets, usually go beyond what is expected, and I won an achievement award last month. I also work very flexibly. I regularly start work at 7am, answer emails early, and will often still be available after 6pm. I usually work through lunch too. That flexibility has suited both the organisation and me because it means things get done quickly and I can also fit other parts of life around work. It is one of the things I am regularly complimented on - how quick I get tasks done.

Out of nowhere, he has now announced that I have to be physically in the office 9–5 three days a week. No actual problem has been identified, no concerns raised about my performance, no suggestion that work isn’t getting done. The explanation was basically that he “wants to try something different”.

Fine. He is the manager and he is entitled to set office hours if he wants to. I’m not arguing with that part.

But my feeling is that if he now wants strict contracted hours and presenteeism, then that is exactly what he will get. I no longer see the point in starting at 7am, replying to messages before work, being available into the evening or working through lunch. I’m planning to work my contracted hours, take a proper hour lunch break and log off at the end of the day.

I know this will reduce the amount I actually get done overall. But another part of me thinks flexibility works both ways. If management removes trust and autonomy, they can’t really expect staff to continue giving unpaid goodwill on top.

OP posts:
LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:34

Itsahardknocklifeforus · 15/05/2026 17:30

Why do you keep putting smiley faces in your replies OP?

It makes your replies look rather petty and immature and as a result you are coming across that way which I don’t think you mean to be/are.

Are we not allowed to use smiley faces?

Is anyone who uses smiley faces petty and immature?

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Foodgloriousfoodie · 15/05/2026 17:35

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:21

There are part timers so I didn't win 1 out of 1 😂We are a small team but part of a much bigger company.

It wasn't just a written award but a cash prize 💷

How could they put anyone else forward with all you do - it’s guaranteed

well done you

connie26 · 15/05/2026 17:36

Do work more than you're paid? It sounds as though you work very productively but I would now just do the 9-5 hours and no more. If less stuff gets done, then maybe your boss will realise this wasn't a good idea.

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:38

Monty36 · 15/05/2026 17:34

Fair enough but I wouldn’t get into the mind set of having one over on your manager by doing so. You have been working well over your hours. Which puts him in an awkward position. And he rightly has decided to change things. He will be able to see how much you do in set hours.
Don’t go slow though. It will do you no favours.
Try to see things through his eyes a bit.

He said he wants to try something new. I have said yes. I am going to have a different working pattern which is fine. Things will slow down as I will be available for the set hours he wanted. It will no longer be the case that things are already dealt with before he starts work.

It is not about me getting one over him. I am making some adjustments which I should have probably done a while ago. When I am in the office, he will always be popping in and out over my lunch. I will just leave the office from now on so he can't ask me anything.

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myrtleWilson · 15/05/2026 17:38

Does your company provide staff awards OP and have you ever won one?

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:38

Foodgloriousfoodie · 15/05/2026 17:35

How could they put anyone else forward with all you do - it’s guaranteed

well done you

Thanks !

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Foodgloriousfoodie · 15/05/2026 17:38

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:27

I can do lots of non work stuff in the office too 😂I did before covid when i was in the office full time.

So you underworked then

now you are overworking

if you return to the office you will just do your hours

Foodgloriousfoodie · 15/05/2026 17:39

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:38

Thanks !

what do you really think is going on - just say it as it is - we won’t judge

notatinydancer · 15/05/2026 17:41

canuckup · 15/05/2026 14:10

Totally agree.

In a similar situation here: WFH I ma online for around ten hours, if I'm in the office it's 8.

He sounds short-sighted at best.

why though ?

Itsahardknocklifeforus · 15/05/2026 17:42

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:34

Are we not allowed to use smiley faces?

Is anyone who uses smiley faces petty and immature?

Ok. I was just trying to help.

FatCatSkinnyRat · 15/05/2026 17:42

You seem a bit obsessed with your "award". Plus you also seems quite disparaging about "the part timers" as you call them.

I suspect you have a hero complex that is annoying the "part timers" and they have escalated issues with you. Your boss is bringing you in to keep an eye on you.

redskyAtNigh · 15/05/2026 17:44

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:24

He has noticed enough so far to regularly comment on my efficiency and praise me. He will notice the extra work he has to do 😂

But if I understand your posts correctly, you are not being particularly efficient.
You are working more hours so that tasks get completed with a smaller time lag.
That's not working efficiently.

If you were genuinely more efficient, you would get the same volume of work done between 9-5 (with 1 hour lunch break) as you would during a 7 hour period working in flexible times across the day.

The fact your manager has not noticed that your output is not down to greater efficiency but due to you working more hours suggests that he actually has no idea about how you are working.

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:46

Foodgloriousfoodie · 15/05/2026 17:39

what do you really think is going on - just say it as it is - we won’t judge

I actually don't know. Maybe the manager has been told to do things differently for a reason but does not want to say what it is. He likes my working style.

But I will adapt and do things his way.

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Foodgloriousfoodie · 15/05/2026 17:46

FatCatSkinnyRat · 15/05/2026 17:42

You seem a bit obsessed with your "award". Plus you also seems quite disparaging about "the part timers" as you call them.

I suspect you have a hero complex that is annoying the "part timers" and they have escalated issues with you. Your boss is bringing you in to keep an eye on you.

definitely comes across as a superwomen complex and how she has decided to work is the best and that’s it - of course she’s better than her boss

MaryTheMagical · 15/05/2026 17:47

notatinydancer · 15/05/2026 17:41

why though ?

Because you don’t have to log off to drive or get a train home - you can stop for a bite of tea and then pop back to your office to finish off

Foodgloriousfoodie · 15/05/2026 17:47

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:46

I actually don't know. Maybe the manager has been told to do things differently for a reason but does not want to say what it is. He likes my working style.

But I will adapt and do things his way.

Maybe the people in other countries can’t keep up!

do you have a disclaimer on your email that you work out of ours but you don’t expect people to reply in those hours

Foodgloriousfoodie · 15/05/2026 17:48

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:46

I actually don't know. Maybe the manager has been told to do things differently for a reason but does not want to say what it is. He likes my working style.

But I will adapt and do things his way.

Maybe you can find a way together - he clearly doesn’t value all your out of hours as much as you do - or someone else at bigger company doesn’t

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:48

FatCatSkinnyRat · 15/05/2026 17:42

You seem a bit obsessed with your "award". Plus you also seems quite disparaging about "the part timers" as you call them.

I suspect you have a hero complex that is annoying the "part timers" and they have escalated issues with you. Your boss is bringing you in to keep an eye on you.

I barely see the part timers so what is the hero complex? Do you object to the term part timers? I have been a part timer at times too.

Yes he can keep an eye on me so I do not become too obsessed with my award and hero complex 😂

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LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:49

Foodgloriousfoodie · 15/05/2026 17:48

Maybe you can find a way together - he clearly doesn’t value all your out of hours as much as you do - or someone else at bigger company doesn’t

He is the one who valued my quick responsiveness and out of hours work and said so many times. If he doesn't value it then no problem. I will stop and he can do it instead.

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LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:49

Foodgloriousfoodie · 15/05/2026 17:46

definitely comes across as a superwomen complex and how she has decided to work is the best and that’s it - of course she’s better than her boss

😂

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LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:51

redskyAtNigh · 15/05/2026 17:44

But if I understand your posts correctly, you are not being particularly efficient.
You are working more hours so that tasks get completed with a smaller time lag.
That's not working efficiently.

If you were genuinely more efficient, you would get the same volume of work done between 9-5 (with 1 hour lunch break) as you would during a 7 hour period working in flexible times across the day.

The fact your manager has not noticed that your output is not down to greater efficiency but due to you working more hours suggests that he actually has no idea about how you are working.

I work with people in different time zones so putting everything into 9-5 will not work.

Yes he has no idea about how I am working yet praises me and nominates me for an award.

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LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:52

myrtleWilson · 15/05/2026 17:38

Does your company provide staff awards OP and have you ever won one?

Edited

No they don't so I can't win one. How about you?

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DoYouLikeYourNaneFred · 15/05/2026 17:53

WhatAMarvelousTune · 15/05/2026 13:28

YANBU. You’ll be commuting now anyway, obviously that’s what you’ll be doing pre-9am, so can’t be working.

At an old job of mine, there was a role done by one guy, and I was the only person who could cover it (it was a fairly small company). He was off for 2 weeks so I was doing 2 full time jobs, and his role was pretty intense. I was in the office until ~10pm, by myself, for the first week. We had clock in/out cards, and on the Monday of the second week the other guy was off, my manager called me in and he had my clock in/out times up on the screen. He could see I’d been in until 10pm all week, and had mainly arrived around 7:30/8am, but on the Friday I’d clocked in at 09:04. He wanted to talk to me to tell me that that lateness was unacceptable.
Ok. Fine. My bad. I’m supposed to be in at 9 so I will be. I’ll also be out the door at 17:30 and you can deal with the clients who want to know where the work is.

Beggars belief doesn't it!

what an idiot!!

Winederlust · 15/05/2026 17:53

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 14:09

I never thought it will be any kind of gotcha.

But he will care when I slow down in getting stuff done as it will not be done first thing or after hours as he likes.

I was trying to understand the point about you getting things done 'more quickly' when you are at home.

But it seems you're not really getting them done more quickly, you're getting them done out of 'normal' hours.

So you start earlier and work later so you can 'fit other parts of life around work'. That to me implies you take time off during the day to fit life stuff in.

So overall you're doing the same hours, just over a longer period of time?

Therefore it shouldn't really make any difference to how quickly you get stuff done? You'll be doing them in your alloted 9-5 rather than your on again, off again hours at home?

Or, you are doing loads of extra hours at home, in which case you're also 'not doing things more quickly', you're just working more hours. Which I completely agree you should be knocking on the head (and that YABU to have done that in the first place).

Fairyliz · 15/05/2026 17:56

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 15:22

The flexibility suited him as I would get tasks done and and problems solved before he started work.

Fine if he does not get on with my flexibility. The tasks will be done later and slower (which will annoy him).

I never said it was for me to decide. I agreed straightaway to his plan for 3 days a week as he is the manager. But it is not for him to decide I work out of hours and get tasks done super quickly.

But if you have as you say always solved the problems before he starts how do you know he will be annoyed if they are done later? Or are you making assumptions about him on little evidence?