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to stop extra flexibility after my manager imposed office hours?

519 replies

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 13:02

I work in a small office team of five people. I’m the only full-time member of staff, everyone else is part time. We had a new manager start last year and honestly, up until now, things have been really good. We get on well, I like his management style and he has always said he cared more about people getting the work done than clock-watching.

I work very hard. I consistently hit targets, usually go beyond what is expected, and I won an achievement award last month. I also work very flexibly. I regularly start work at 7am, answer emails early, and will often still be available after 6pm. I usually work through lunch too. That flexibility has suited both the organisation and me because it means things get done quickly and I can also fit other parts of life around work. It is one of the things I am regularly complimented on - how quick I get tasks done.

Out of nowhere, he has now announced that I have to be physically in the office 9–5 three days a week. No actual problem has been identified, no concerns raised about my performance, no suggestion that work isn’t getting done. The explanation was basically that he “wants to try something different”.

Fine. He is the manager and he is entitled to set office hours if he wants to. I’m not arguing with that part.

But my feeling is that if he now wants strict contracted hours and presenteeism, then that is exactly what he will get. I no longer see the point in starting at 7am, replying to messages before work, being available into the evening or working through lunch. I’m planning to work my contracted hours, take a proper hour lunch break and log off at the end of the day.

I know this will reduce the amount I actually get done overall. But another part of me thinks flexibility works both ways. If management removes trust and autonomy, they can’t really expect staff to continue giving unpaid goodwill on top.

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Foodgloriousfoodie · 15/05/2026 17:18

juggleit · 15/05/2026 17:17

it seems he hasnt communicated well with you on this but you do sound a bit militant. This will not go well for you if your intention is to go slow because the wfh benefits have been removed. Have a discussion about this and try and meet in the middle where a new trial of work schedule can be assessed.

Yes that would be the mature take

he clearly isn’t as enamoured or sees the benefits as you do op

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:19

Foodgloriousfoodie · 15/05/2026 17:17

My guess is he’s not liking your omnipotent superwomen status as much as you think

Then maybe he should have said it in the appraisal and not nominated me for the award?

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Monty36 · 15/05/2026 17:19

Then I suspect he is bothered by the hours you are doing if you don’t have another job as you say.

Birdsongsinging · 15/05/2026 17:19

There must be something about the current system that your manager doesn't like otherwise I don't see why they would want to 'try something different'. You have mentioned that they like you doing the out of hours work / being available at times that noone else is but again, for them to change that they must think that you being in the office is going to be better for some reason.

I think I might have asked what they thought wasn't working or what they hoped might be different from trying it this way pointing out that you would now only be available during office hours while you are in the office. I know someone else said about still providing the additional hours on the 2 days you are out of the office but I am not sure that I would as that way they still get some benefit which they might view as enough. I would be strict about office hours only and hope they realise that the new plan is not a good one!

Foodgloriousfoodie · 15/05/2026 17:19

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:19

Then maybe he should have said it in the appraisal and not nominated me for the award?

But you said there is only you

so I’m guessing you won 1 out of 1

we all know those things aren’t worth the paper they are written on

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:20

Foodgloriousfoodie · 15/05/2026 17:18

Yes that would be the mature take

he clearly isn’t as enamoured or sees the benefits as you do op

Fine if he isn't enamoured but he has told me he likes my efficiency and has more trust in me to get things done than the other staff. Only I was nominated for the award, not any of the other staff.

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Foodgloriousfoodie · 15/05/2026 17:21

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:20

Fine if he isn't enamoured but he has told me he likes my efficiency and has more trust in me to get things done than the other staff. Only I was nominated for the award, not any of the other staff.

ooo that sounds slippery - your the best! Not the other staff…you’re so great

Monty36 · 15/05/2026 17:21

As a manager he will have a duty of care for you. So he may be concerned about your hours you are doing.

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:21

Foodgloriousfoodie · 15/05/2026 17:19

But you said there is only you

so I’m guessing you won 1 out of 1

we all know those things aren’t worth the paper they are written on

There are part timers so I didn't win 1 out of 1 😂We are a small team but part of a much bigger company.

It wasn't just a written award but a cash prize 💷

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LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:22

Monty36 · 15/05/2026 17:21

As a manager he will have a duty of care for you. So he may be concerned about your hours you are doing.

That is fine. I am happy to do less hours and slow down. But it has took him a year to be concerned then!

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peppaispoop · 15/05/2026 17:23

I doubt your boss will notice

Itsahardknocklifeforus · 15/05/2026 17:23

Foodgloriousfoodie · 15/05/2026 17:16

I’d say it would be more efficient to just work your hours

your saying your not efficient as you don’t get the job down in the hours

This.

Also a monthly achievement award when you are the only full time employee in a team of five part timers seems OTT and unnecessary?

It could be that he is looking to put a case forward for an additional staff member, particularly when you are working far more than your contracted hours.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 15/05/2026 17:24

I actually think this could be really good for you. You are doing a whole extra days work a week for free.

You are winning efficiency awards but it’s not that you are more efficient or better at your job than others, it’s that you are doing the work they have allocated for 5 days in the hours of 6.

You should be sticking to your work hours and you need to prepare yourself for you finding it mentally hard, not causing you to laugh. You see yourself as efficient, but you’re going to have to realise you are not, you just do lots of extra work for free.

Your manager may well have noticed and is worried, your work load can’t be done in 9-5 5 days a week, she/he’s going to need evidence for additional funding because you doing overtime for free is not an appropriate solution to the workload being too much for the staffing hours they’ve got.

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:24

peppaispoop · 15/05/2026 17:23

I doubt your boss will notice

He has noticed enough so far to regularly comment on my efficiency and praise me. He will notice the extra work he has to do 😂

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Daisymail · 15/05/2026 17:24

It sounds as if you haven't been working more hours, rather you are starting earlier and finishing later to offset the chunks of time you are using to "fit other parts of life around work". How much time are you spending on non-work stuff? This is likely the reason why he wants you in the office.

Monty36 · 15/05/2026 17:25

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:22

That is fine. I am happy to do less hours and slow down. But it has took him a year to be concerned then!

Your response here is precisely why what he is doing is wise.
You clearly are not happy about logging on at 7am, no lunch and working through to 6pm etc.

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:25

Itsahardknocklifeforus · 15/05/2026 17:23

This.

Also a monthly achievement award when you are the only full time employee in a team of five part timers seems OTT and unnecessary?

It could be that he is looking to put a case forward for an additional staff member, particularly when you are working far more than your contracted hours.

It is a yearly achievement award. Small team but part of a much bigger company.

It could be he wants another staff member.

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LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:26

Monty36 · 15/05/2026 17:25

Your response here is precisely why what he is doing is wise.
You clearly are not happy about logging on at 7am, no lunch and working through to 6pm etc.

I haven't minded working out of hours. I did it before he started and carry on. Won't be doing it now though!

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LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:27

Daisymail · 15/05/2026 17:24

It sounds as if you haven't been working more hours, rather you are starting earlier and finishing later to offset the chunks of time you are using to "fit other parts of life around work". How much time are you spending on non-work stuff? This is likely the reason why he wants you in the office.

I can do lots of non work stuff in the office too 😂I did before covid when i was in the office full time.

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MachineBee · 15/05/2026 17:29

I get your situation @LouuLou I had a job where my contract specifically stated ‘Home-based’. The department director changed and he suddenly wanted ‘local people in the office more’ because he wanted to ‘have us around’. I have a health condition that means I need a special set up for my work station. Not easy to manage when hot-desking. I used to spend the first hour in the office finding a suitable chair and screen that could be adjusted to work for me and an ergonomic keyboard and mouse. And once I was able to start working I was mostly doing what I did at home - Teams meetings, report reading and writing and desk-based research and analysis with people online. My productivity fell as I just stopped doing all the extras that I’d done in return for the flexibility that came with my home-based contract that helped me manage my health condition and still meet (and often surpass) my contractual obligations. The colleagues that did the same job as me but were based further away didn’t have to come in for any reason other than quarterly team meetings we’d always done (as was in our contracts).

I ended up leaving, effectively leading an exodus of staff, because everyone was fed up with the new regime and attitude. Lost a lot of good people and it took a lot of time and budget replacing us all. My job took the longest to fill as I was in quite a niche role with a very high reputation within our industry. Director ended up leaving about a year later. Pure vanity exercise.

Ginnnny · 15/05/2026 17:29

Could someone above him have complained that he wasn’t doing his job? You keep saying you did some of his tasks, maybe that’s been noticed?

MaryTheMagical · 15/05/2026 17:30

Op it’s also going to make your manager’s life more difficult when you have a GP appointment that you can only get in the middle of the day on one of your office days.

You might find the return to office is very relaxing!

Itsahardknocklifeforus · 15/05/2026 17:30

Why do you keep putting smiley faces in your replies OP?

It makes your replies look rather petty and immature and as a result you are coming across that way which I don’t think you mean to be/are.

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:33

Ginnnny · 15/05/2026 17:29

Could someone above him have complained that he wasn’t doing his job? You keep saying you did some of his tasks, maybe that’s been noticed?

This is a possibility.

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Monty36 · 15/05/2026 17:34

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 17:26

I haven't minded working out of hours. I did it before he started and carry on. Won't be doing it now though!

Fair enough but I wouldn’t get into the mind set of having one over on your manager by doing so. You have been working well over your hours. Which puts him in an awkward position. And he rightly has decided to change things. He will be able to see how much you do in set hours.
Don’t go slow though. It will do you no favours.
Try to see things through his eyes a bit.