AIBU to compare pro-Palestine and Tommy Robinson-led protests? Both involve hatred antisemitism or racism and both end up in trouble. Two cheeks of the same ass as I've heard on here before!

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Pro-Palestine and Tommy Robinson-led protests this Saturday with yet again thousands of officers having to spend the day controling these protests. Surely there is a better way. Static protest or once a month for Gaza? I think Tommy's lot isn't weekly like the Gaza lot.

Antisemitism is a major problem and general racism also up. Armoured vehicles are needed now with the first time in 15 years to use them. Terror incidents have risen yet what have either of these 'protests' achieved apart from further divisions!

Stick them in separate areas and tell them to stand with their various placards and keep them there. They ave their virtue signalling and hate fuelled moments but stop annoying the rest of us and keep the costs down - it's costing millions of pounds.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15816041/Met-Police-call-armoured-cars-London-braces-day-pro-Palestine-Tommy-Robinson-led-protests.html

You can’t possibly have been at ‘every’ march. They happen worldwide 😂

There have been marches that are near synagogues - I know of plenty in the states from family and read this about today’s protest in London. I don’t know London at all to know how close the routes are to the synagogue mentioned but it sounds like a regular issue if they keep having to have the police alter their planned routes.

www.gbnews.com/news/metropolitan-police-pro-palestinian-rally-london-synagogue#

Agree with this.

Because I wanted to show my support for the Palestinian people and believe the Israeli GOVERNMENT are wrong in what they are doing

I have been on a number of marches over the years not just the past few years and not just about Gaza

The Iraq war, NHS, women’s march I believe in democracy I believe that people’s voices can make a change

I don’t believe prejudice has any place on such marches

Agree and Wow

The right to free speech seems to have passed people by and so many are blind or they read crap in the likes of the Daily Sceptic which is clear from at least one comment on here

Meanwhile
I posted This on another thread and it’s very relevant here
from
The Guardian

Tommy Robinson tells tens of thousands at London rally to prepare for ‘battle of Britain’
Turnout down at second ‘unite the kingdom’ march featuring Islamophobic and ethnonationalist hate speech and flyers

Sat 16 May 2026 19.21 BST

Prefer the Guardian on Google
The far-right activist Tommy Robinson told tens of thousands of supporters to prepare for the “battle of Britain” during a rally in London on Saturday.
Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, drew tens of thousands of supporters on to the streets of central London for the second year running in an event

where Islamophobic and ethnonationalist hate speech and flyers were distributed to the crowds
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Organisers claimed that millions had attended his “unite the kingdom” march, but police estimated the number of demonstrators to be far lower, at about 60,000. Last September’s march was attended by 150,000 people.
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Robinson, who gained prominence as the founder of the anti-Islam English Defence League,
told crowds gathered in Parliament Square that the rally was “a turning point for Britain”.

He encouraged his supporters to move beyond street protest and “fighting” and become involved in local politics before the next general election.

The campaign group Hope Not Hate said that although the march appeared to have attracted fewer demonstrators than the previous rally, the scale of Robinson’s movement remained “deeply worrying”.
It added: “Today’s numbers still dwarf anything ever managed by the English Defence League and hundreds of thousands more watched the livestream online. While it looks like the movement’s growth may have stalled, it still remains a significant threat” ‘

Wiki on
Ethnonationalism (or ethnic nationalism) is an ideology where a nation's identity is defined by shared heritage—such as ancestry, language, and culture—rather than by political citizenship.

It asserts that a state should belong exclusively to this dominant ethnic group, often leading to the exclusion of minority populations. 1, 2]

Core Principles

Ancestry-Based Belonging: Membership in the nation is inherited through bloodlines, meaning you are born into it rather than joining through civic participation or legal naturalization.

State Serving the Ethnicity: The ideology posits that the primary purpose of the state is to protect and promote the specific culture, religion, and demographic dominance of the founding ethnic group.

Exclusivity: Because identity is fixed at birth, it is inherently difficult (and sometimes impossible) for outsiders to fully assimilate or become accepted as true members of the nation. 1, 2, 3]

Ethnonationalism vs. Civic Nationalism
The concept sits in stark contrast to civic nationalism. 1]

Civic Nationalism: Defines the nation by shared political values, allegiance to democratic institutions, and the rule of law. Anyone who holds citizenship is part of the nation, regardless of ethnicity.

Ethnonationalism: Rejects the idea that legal paperwork (citizenship) or place of birth is enough to make someone a true member of the community. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Historical and Contemporary Context
Historically, this ideology has been a driver of independence movements (where a minority ethnicity seeks self-determination) but is frequently associated with segregation, prejudice, and conflict when states attempt to enforce cultural or ethnic homogeneity. src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/jrMX3TDSTJw" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen> 1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
You can explore academic definitions and social perspectives on the Dictionary.com Definition of Ethnonationalism or read sociological analyses via the EBSCO Research Starters on Ethnic Nationalism.

This is what Tommy Robinsons march was all about
promoting Islamophobia, racism and hate
( I know you didn’t include Islamophobia in your title OP but it’s key to today’s marches )

Do we want to live in an ethnonationalist country …. I certainly don’t.

Well said 👏👏

I don't understand why anyone would be pro-Palestine. March against the war by all means but Pro-Palestine? Really? A country where they throw people off buildings for the crime of being gay?

Stop reading or watching propaganda and reposting
It fuels hate !!!

There is no documented evidence that Palestinians or the Hamas government have a policy of throwing people off buildings for being gay, and major fact-checking organizations have debunked viral videos claiming to show this occurring in Gaza. 1, 2, 3]
The specific claims you are likely referring to are based on the following:

Misidentified Footage: Viral videos often cited as evidence of Palestinians throwing gay men off roofs are actually footage of ISIS (Islamic State) executions in Iraq (Fallujah) and Syria (Homs) from 2015. Fact-checkers from Reuters and AFP have confirmed these videos are not from Palestine.

Political Rhetoric: The "thrown off a roof" narrative has become a frequently used trope by commentators and political figures to highlight the conservative nature of Palestinian society, but it is often based on the aforementioned debunked videos.

Hind Rajab. Was that a lie? Why wouldn't I support Palestine?

Was the boy who was burned alive in a hospital after an Israeli air strike not worth marching for. His mum died too

No genocide though. Didn't happen

It's a war. Which was started by Palestine.

Israel is by far the freer and more democratic country of the two. The bigger Israel gets and the smaller Palestine gets, the more free and democratic the world becomes. Yet liberals fall over themselves to support Palestine and Decry Israel. It makes no sense whatsoever. Hamas are laughing all the way to the bank at the western liberals that support them, wave Palestine flags and say things like "Globalize the intifada" and "Put the Zios in the ground" etc.

The best thing Palestine could do to end the conflict is to say "OK, we accept defeat, stop the fighting, let's talk, let's do business together". If they'd done that 70 years ago they'd be a modern, developed country by now, just like Israel is.

I think you’d have to be beyond “blinkered” to think anyone wants to”modern” and “developed” countries to be anything like Israel. Wake up. Genocide is not aspirational.

I think march organisers should be billed for police time.
That might limit their enthusiasm.
Sick of the sight of bloody flags of every type.

So explain. Why would Hamas committing the atrocities of October 7th help life for the average person in Gaza?

What genocide?
There is no evidence. There was never mass extermination. All civilian deaths were related to their proximity to Hamas (they can thank Hamas for using human shields) or accidental. The IDF were not out and about trying to exterminate everyone in Gaza.

Because if they were, they have the firepower to have done so.

I'd love to know what your explanation is for the pro pal protestors chanting to shoot Robinson in the neck like Charlie Kirk. You are the one who's swallowed propaganda. Many ethnic minorities were on the the Unite the UK rally giving their support. The only people causing division is the PM, his deputy and the Mayor of London. Now Christo-fascism is apparently a thing! Bloody joke of a government allowing the real extremists to get away with such hate.

As I said beyond blinkered and not what any of us hope for, for modern humanity.

Is it really?
Then please explain how are terror attack on a militarily stronger neighbour state helps the people in Gaza.

Bit like the infamous holocaust then. Apparently that never happened and we all know from which quarter that's being mainly pedalled. Oh and rapes never took place by Hamas, yeah right. Jewish people have to hear that gaslighting shit week in week out. Globalise the intifada, behead Jews, shoot Tommy Robinson etc. Hope not hate Sadiq Khan? You're having a laff!

For those non British patriots who question the rally for Battle of Britain. Try reading up on UK military history. It's a clear reference to that. The lies being stoked by the left aren't going to work anymore.

What modern humanity? You won't find any of that in London on every Saturday.

Jews know exactly how your family feel. They have been too scared to go about their UK business for 3 years.

Ok let’s put it a way you might find easier to comprehend. I do not want my country to do to anyone what Israel has done to the Palestinians. I do not think any country in the world hopes to emulate them.

If you are British, fortunately your country won't need to defend herself against terrorists ever day for centuries.

Yes, quite how anyone thinks 7th October was a positive for Gazans is beyond me.

Sinwar and the Hamas leadership thought they'd be able to get their allies to join in more after a headline attack on 7th October, they called that wrong, the outcome was predictable and the price has been paid not only by people who deserved it but also by ordinary civilians who had no control over any events. It's empowered the lunatic terror settlers in the West Bank, who now have the examples of peace activist, pro-Palestinian Israelis like Oded Lifshitz and Vivian Silver being deliberately targeted by Hamas to hold up.

It was an incredibly fucking stupid idea, and that was obvious to anyone with a remotely informed and dispassionate analysis of the situation.