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To wonder on the future of generous welfare in the UK

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happybug1234 · 11/05/2026 12:51

It seems increasingly obvious that many middle-income families are becoming frustrated at how squeezed they are financially, while at the same time seeing people on universal credit receive a growing range of subsidies and support — £1 attraction tickets on days out, a 6% rise in benefits this financial year, childcare costs reclaimable through Universal Credit, housing benefit, and so on. I see thread after thread on this on this site and also increasing momentum in the media on this issue (income cliff edges etc)

In my own extended family, 1 unemployed parent with the other on min wage, in social housing appear to have more holidays and more disposable income than we do, despite us both working full time with a household income of around £95k. Once childcare, mortgage, insurances, commuting and tax are taken into account, we 100% have a lower level of disposable income than they do as they do not have any of these work related costs and their rent is paid. They have recently gone on a 2 week holiday whilst the most we can ever afford is 1 week.

Quite a few teachers in my friendship circle are declining promotion opportunities or TLR because the extra pay often doesn’t feel worth the additional stress once tax, pension contributions and childcare costs are factored in. Instead, some are putting more effort into private tutoring, which is tax free cash in hand.

What is stopping the government from addressing this as people seek to be responding accordingly in their behaviour!

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Wynter25 · 12/05/2026 09:54

TheSnootiestFox · 12/05/2026 09:41

Of course you can. You're responding to the lady that did it, remember! I went back when both of them were 20 weeks.

I cant. Unable to atm

TheSnootiestFox · 12/05/2026 09:55

Wynter25 · 11/05/2026 17:27

Not my problem

Well, to be fair you having a fatherless child is not mine, but here we are!

Wynter25 · 12/05/2026 09:56

NoUsernameAvailableAgain · 12/05/2026 09:33

Not arsey they are completely right.

I don’t resent paying tax at all. I don’t resent any disabled person getting the support they need, don’t resent anyone who is getting topped up working full time, those who are actively looking and taking as many as hours as they can. I don’t resent support for anyone who needs it. I do resent supporting those who can work more who are choosing not to in order to get the maximum benefits they can.

I also resent the families with a large number of children with only one working parent are now going to be better off than my household with two working parents. Why should the government pay for someone to sit at home all when they could be contributing to society like the rest of us have to instead of popping out child after child that they can’t fund.

They are completely wrong.

TheSnootiestFox · 12/05/2026 09:56

Wynter25 · 12/05/2026 09:54

I cant. Unable to atm

Of course you can. You just choose not to.

Wynter25 · 12/05/2026 09:56

TheSnootiestFox · 12/05/2026 09:55

Well, to be fair you having a fatherless child is not mine, but here we are!

Well i hope you never got abused.

Wynter25 · 12/05/2026 09:57

TheSnootiestFox · 12/05/2026 09:56

Of course you can. You just choose not to.

I cant.

XenoBitch · 12/05/2026 09:57

Wynter25 · 12/05/2026 09:57

I cant.

Don't feel you have to justify yourself on here. They don't actually care. They just want to put the boot in more. It took me a long time to work that out.

BeFluentTraybake · 12/05/2026 10:01

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NoUsernameAvailableAgain · 12/05/2026 10:02

XenoBitch · 12/05/2026 09:41

Well, I don't agree with the sentiment, and there are issues with the declining birth rate... but don't have kids if you can't afford them.

Don’t have children you cant afford yet here you are in support of people doing hardly any work in order to claim a large amount of benefits to support their children that they can’t afford 🙄

Wynter25 · 12/05/2026 10:03

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They really are. They can crack on. Thank you ❤️

XenoBitch · 12/05/2026 10:03

NoUsernameAvailableAgain · 12/05/2026 10:02

Don’t have children you cant afford yet here you are in support of people doing hardly any work in order to claim a large amount of benefits to support their children that they can’t afford 🙄

I said I do not agree with the sentiment. We need more people having kids, not less.

Wynter25 · 12/05/2026 10:03

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Fluffybuns88 · 12/05/2026 10:06

Springleaves26 · 12/05/2026 08:41

Of course people realise, despite the far left annoying assuming everyone not on the far left is just stupid and ‘doesn’t understand things’ my point is that it all contributes to breeding resentment. They see the government taxing them to the hilt while it ‘affords’ to give ever more perks to those on benefits then constantly goes on about ‘child poverty’ leading these organisations to jump on the bandwagon as a virtue signalling exercise. A good example of organisations that have got it right are the scouts and the national trust, fees/membership prices that recognise that many families with children on benefits or not need low prices, for example the membership for one parent and up to 10 children is only 70p a month more than for an individual and doesn’t depend on any benefit entitlement

But those organisations are able to do that by heavy tax relief and subsidies funded by the tax payer.

NoUsernameAvailableAgain · 12/05/2026 10:08

I’m not a snobby playground bitch. I don’t see the playground much and I work in one of these jobs that keep being mentioned on here as low paid and essential. I don’t own a house. I rent. I’ll never own a house. I live in a deprived area. I’m the exact opposite of a snob but you know what I work for what money I have. Which by the way isn’t a lot!

Plugg · 12/05/2026 10:10

BeFluentTraybake · 12/05/2026 09:53

Cute you prioritised the economy and your career over your kids, most of us realise that isnt natural ❤️

But that’s totally fine if you can fund it yourself. Those who can’t - including those who plan to fund it by asking for money off the state - need to work.

cadburyegg · 12/05/2026 10:11

IDontHateRainbows · 12/05/2026 06:32

They can be socialized with the other kids of other SAHPs, toddler groups etc.

And I didn't think this benefit was contingent on the parent being an active jobseeker. Cos it isn't .

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Do you understand what poverty actually is? People living in dire poverty often cannot afford toddlers groups, even the cheaper £1 a time ones.

angelos02 · 12/05/2026 10:11

Why do we need more kids? Keep being told AI will take over loads of jobs. Also, there are over a million young people out of work for no good reason so having children is no guarantee of a workforce for the future.

Plugg · 12/05/2026 10:12

Wynter25 · 12/05/2026 09:54

I cant. Unable to atm

Why not? Whats the reason?

Wynter25 · 12/05/2026 10:14

Plugg · 12/05/2026 10:12

Why not? Whats the reason?

Would you like to watch my 2 youngest so i can?

Plugg · 12/05/2026 10:16

Wynter25 · 12/05/2026 10:14

Would you like to watch my 2 youngest so i can?

Is this your “reason”? Use childcare like any other working single parent.

TheSnootiestFox · 12/05/2026 10:17

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Don't be so silly. I am responsible, educated, now middle aged professional person and behave accordingly.

This behaviour includes adults supporting the family they choose to have rather than choosing to expect others to support them. Anyone can find themselves a single parent, I know I did after I chose to end my fairly long marriage, but hell would have frozen over before I'd brought a baby into the world while being single and there by the sounds of it being other children to consider.

You make your life choices and that's fine, but don't expect those of us with a more sensible view to bail you out while you bleat about hard it is being a single parent, it's getting wearing!

Wynter25 · 12/05/2026 10:18

Plugg · 12/05/2026 10:16

Is this your “reason”? Use childcare like any other working single parent.

They are with childminder. Can only do 2 days atm. So will be doing 10hrs then 16 in september.

BeFluentTraybake · 12/05/2026 10:21

TheSnootiestFox · 12/05/2026 10:17

Don't be so silly. I am responsible, educated, now middle aged professional person and behave accordingly.

This behaviour includes adults supporting the family they choose to have rather than choosing to expect others to support them. Anyone can find themselves a single parent, I know I did after I chose to end my fairly long marriage, but hell would have frozen over before I'd brought a baby into the world while being single and there by the sounds of it being other children to consider.

You make your life choices and that's fine, but don't expect those of us with a more sensible view to bail you out while you bleat about hard it is being a single parent, it's getting wearing!

Id have thought someone so educated would have less of a closed mind

BeFluentTraybake · 12/05/2026 10:22

And for everyone slating lefties, theres direct correlation between high IQ and left leaning ideologies. Gonna assume your knuckles are sore from dragging them round all day

TheSnootiestFox · 12/05/2026 10:22

BeFluentTraybake · 12/05/2026 10:21

Id have thought someone so educated would have less of a closed mind

Closed mind? Oh Good Lord, you're priceless! 😂😂😂

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